computer and Phone virus protection

pitdogg2
pitdogg2 Posts: 25,549
edited August 24 in Clubhouse Archives
Ok, long time McAfee and Malwarebytes user. The past year I've not been real happy with McAfee. My McAfee subscription is up in 14 days, looking for something new for both PC, laptop and my phone.
I like the malwarebytes and its VPN. The McAfee just seems to see everything as a problem or nothing as a problem. It's new stuff wants to do credit bureau, social this and that, all kinds of stuff I don't need in it's subscriptions. It also seems to really slow everything down to a crawl. Many times I cannot even get to a full scan, it will only allow a "quick" scan that is done in like 60 seconds. Personally I feel like it's done nothing with that scan.

What's everybody else out there using what something I should be looking at that's better than what I got?
Should I just stick with the Malwarebytes for everything?

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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,196
    1) What’s wrong with Windows Defender? It won’t spam you with upsell offers.

    2) CCleaner works too.

    3) Linux for any Windows machine will bypass the problem entirely, and increase performance as well as stability by orders of magnitude. That won’t help the phone solution much, but for that see (2).

    4) Similarly Mac + iPad + iPhone bypass the problem entirely. You can add CCleaner if it makes you feel better.

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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,549
    edited August 24
    I didn't ask about buying a Mac, ipad or iphone. I'll never own them.
    I have a PC, Windows 11 up to date.
    I have an Android 2024 phone
    Trust me I'll never "DM" you or PM you.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,116
    I can't even see the posts (on ignore) but isn't this the very definition of a troll?

    This is not the only recent thread either.

    Tom

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  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 2,140
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Ok, long time McAfee and Malwarebytes user. The past year I've not been real happy with McAfee. My McAfee subscription is up in 14 days, looking for something new for both PC, laptop and my phone.
    I like the malwarebytes and its VPN. The McAfee just seems to see everything as a problem or nothing as a problem. It's new stuff wants to do credit bureau, social this and that, all kinds of stuff I don't need in it's subscriptions. It also seems to really slow everything down to a crawl. Many times I cannot even get to a full scan, it will only allow a "quick" scan that is done in like 60 seconds. Personally I feel like it's done nothing with that scan.

    What's everybody else out there using what something I should be looking at that's better than what I got?
    Should I just stick with the Malwarebytes for everything?

    Windows and droid user here also and I'm watching with interest. My mcafee subscription is also coming up for renewal in the near future and they let me know that with a pop up a few times daily. I'm also dissatisfied with them and I'm constantly reminded of how my "protection" will soon be running out. Good riddance I say. I was thinking about Norton but I'm open to anyone other than worthless mcafee.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,116
    edited August 25
    I would honestly just like know how to get rid of the McAfee pop ups for resubscribing....they are relentless.I know they came with the computer but damn. I even deleted the app (or whatever it is)

    EDIT - Laptop, not phone....

    Tom
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,290
    I have been using ESET for years on my PC’s, I have never used anything on my iPhone or iPad.
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,196
    … My mcafee subscription is also coming up for renewal in the near future and they let me know that with a pop up a few times daily. I'm also dissatisfied with them and I'm constantly reminded of how my "protection" will soon be running out. Good riddance I say. I was thinking about Norton but I'm open to anyone other than worthless mcafee.

    McAfee belonged to Intel for a few years, but was taken private again since.

    Norton will be no different, with pop-ups trying to scare you into subscribing at the end of the trial period.

    Out of 15 or so devices under my care, only one of them runs Windows. It’s brand new, but I removed the “free trial” software on the first day.

    That helped avoid all of the upgrade and subscription pop-ups, except that Windows itself now includes its own upsell offers, which they call tips and suggestions. 🤦‍♂️

    Maybe @msg can offer some suggestions. This sort of thing is his domain of expertise after all. 🤷‍♂️
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,196
    edited August 25
    treitz3 wrote: »
    I would honestly just like know how to get rid of the McAfee pop ups for resubscribing....they are relentless.I know they came with the computer but damn. I even deleted the app (or whatever it is)

    EDIT - Laptop, not phone....

    Tom

    If you’re still getting the popups after deleting the software, use CCleaner to remove the remaining remnants. Or possibly Revo Uninstaller.

    These kinds of “free” software may come with their own prompts to subscribe, or upgrade. After all, they do have to pay their staff somehow. You may have to remove them after use.

    Link to CCleaner HERE.

    Link to Revo HERE.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,116
    Good lawd, are you at it again?

    When will it stop.

    Tom
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,196
    I wouldn’t want you to miss me. 💋 💋
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,549
    edited August 25
    Maybe @msg can offer some suggestions. This sort of thing is his domain of expertise after all. 🤷‍♂️
    Since it's not yours as you admit, Go away!
  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 5,596
    Norton and McAfee are viruses themselves and almost impossible to remove from you computer. I've always used AVG.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,837
    UGH!

    So much to unpack here!

    Professional Information Security consultant here. 27 years of experience.

    First off, this is completely incorrect.
    audioluvr wrote: »
    Norton and McAfee are viruses themselves and almost impossible to remove from you computer. I've always used AVG.

    You should stop talking out your aft regions as you clearly have no idea what you are talking about about.

    I will agree that for free, AVG is decent enough but, there's no real teeth to it if you don't have the paid for version.

    As far as Winblows Defender goes, it's OK at best. It doesn't get definition updates as quickly as other AV software and often times, definitions are not up to speed with whatever Patch Tuesday BS MS wants to foist off on the general public and ends up breaking itself. Defender in a managed environment is better but still slow to respond. Many companies do not use it because the only reason it's "enterprise level" is because MS manages the "enterprise deployment" if you let them. Otherwise, it's mediocre at best. For a home user or a small business it offers an enterprise level of support that is hard and expensive to attain at that level. The best advice I can give to those using Defender is make sure you are up to date on all your patches and security fixes because Defender lags enough that someone who has you pegged can leverage an exploit that leaves you exposed before Defender will have your back.

    CCleaner is ransomware. One of the first things that HiJackThis will clean out of a system is CCleaner. DO NOT EVER download that garbage. It has known exploits and has it's own back door.

    If you want a service on the level of CCleaner that will actually do what CCleaner says it does without bilking you for dollars, get yourself Spybot. It's completely free and the most effective cleaner I have ever used.


    Apple and Linux are not immune to malware. Go ahead and keep believing it if you want but that's a fool's errand.

    McAfee is hot garbage. I hate it. At all levels. Even enterprise levels. Mickey Mouse BS.

    Here's how to turn off McAfee popups.

    https://www.comparitech.com/antivirus/how-to-remove-mcafee-popups/

    Any software that says it will fix your annoying problems is an annoying problem in and of itself. Do not use utilities like Revo to do simple things like blocking apps from showing you pop ups. You have the entirety of human knowledge at your fingers tips. All you have to do is type into Google or Yahoo or DuckDuckGo or whatever a simple question like "How do I turn of McAfee Pop Ups?" and you will get a myriad of FREE advice from people just as frustrated as you who figured it out and gave their help freely to remove a scourge against mankind and you don't have to be taken for a patsy and separated from your money for a utility that just does what a few, simple and actually FREE mouse clicks will do.

    There's similar information about how to stop Norton too.

    What to use then?

    Simple. If you have Windows, Defender, it's already there and keep up to date on your patches and stay away from naughty sites is all you really need to do. If you're in to naughty things like The Pirate Bay then you better do some research and educate yourself.

    Mac? Oh, well, you're probably smug as hell and know everything already so you do you, cupcake. I'll pray for you.

    UNIX? This includes Linux. Well, you're not an average (L)user so hopefully you know what you're doing and are at lest part of a sub-reddit about your particular kernel.

    Still lost? Feel free to drop me a PM if you're too afraid to do it here. I don't bite and I hate spammers and malware with a passion. Anything I can to do stop you or you grammama from losing your shirt to a Russian hacker or a Nigerian Prince, I will gladly volunteer my services. My employer pays me plenty to do it for some of the largest corporations on the globe so I don't even have to charge you! My advice and help is accurate and freely given 'cause like Uncle Ben said, with great power comes great responsibility.




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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,837
    edited August 25
    If you absolutely need to have a 3rd part AV provider then I recommend

    1.) Avast - good overall, non-intrusive, doesn't skimp on the free side
    2.) AVG - good overall, some nice features are only available on the pay side
    3.) BitDefender - mostly for it's scrubbing capabilities, better features have to be paid for

    Have a problem right now?

    Download HiJackThis and find your problem. Use HiJackThis to neutralize your problem
    Get yourself Spybot: Search and Destroy and do a FULL scan and just wait. Tell Spybot to fix everything found.
    Have Spybot come up before start up so it can scrub your registry for you before Windows boots up.
    Patch your system with the latest patches.

    Or, leverage your AV but sometimes malware will interfere with your AV. Malwarebytes is usually simple to install but you can also put Malwarebytes on a bootable CD or thumb drive from another computer and use it to clean your system while the main hard drive is not booted up so your registry isn't active or holding system resources.
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,196
    Thank you @Jstas!

    I might not agree with everything, but that doesn’t matter, and I could be wrong — even though I’m never wrong! 🤪

    The point is, you took the time to write out a detailed analysis with actionable information.

    Well done! 👍 🥇 👏
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,837
    One other thing. If you currently have an issue and you can't get another AV tool to work correctly, Avast used to have a standalone app called Stinger but it looks like it's a McAfee product now. It's another cleaner application and you have to download the latest version to get the most up to date definition files. But, it's a standalone executable and can be run from a thumb drive or CD. It has helped me on many occasions in the past when someone came to me with a system that was really boned up and no other AV would run.

    Stinger is NOT AV protection, it is a cleaner app and it is used to recover a system that has an infection the interferes with AV software so that it cannot be cleaned from the system by the installed AV application. You do need an AV application that gives constant protection.

    You can get it here:
    https://mcafee-stinger.en.softonic.com/

    Avast has a cleaner app still too but it's not standalone anymore. Or, it is and you can make a rescue disk with it but it's not Stinger or HiJackThis.
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,784
    edited August 26
    The point is, you took the time to write out a detailed analysis with actionable information


    I dunno ....I think the point is that he know's WTF he's talking about. 🤔
    Well....yeah, that's the point 👍
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,948
    Kex wrote: »
    Thank you @Jstas!

    I might not agree with everything, but that doesn’t matter, and I could be wrong — even though I’m never wrong! 🤪

    The point is, you took the time to write out a detailed analysis with actionable information.

    Well done! 👍 🥇 👏
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,603
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Good lawd, are you at it again?

    When will it stop.

    Tom

    Perhaps use CCLeaner to get rid of him? lol
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