Final decision. System A,B or C

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited June 2004
    Sean is gonna have to help you out here...

    He loves the Sony Magic Boxes lol

    Ryan, another teenager on here has the Sony.

    For 200 bucks -- the Panasonic will drive the LSi line good, alot better than any Solid State receiver under a grand can.

    Don't even worry about the Sony -- the Panasonic will do the job easily.

    Get it together and enjoy!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • AintJoM0mma
    AintJoM0mma Posts: 131
    edited June 2004
    http://www.onecall.com/ProductDisplay.mpt?ProductID=19373&FEID=230&PMNID=416

    You sure that wont sound a little more warmer/musical? Ill talk to ATC about it.
    I = NOOOOOOoooooo000b

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited June 2004
    dude do you have aim?
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • AintJoM0mma
    AintJoM0mma Posts: 131
    edited June 2004
    yeah dude whats your sn.
    I = NOOOOOOoooooo000b

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited June 2004
    mxstyler2k2
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • AintJoM0mma
    AintJoM0mma Posts: 131
    edited June 2004
    your not on...
    I = NOOOOOOoooooo000b

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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited June 2004
    Ok, silly question...

    If he is going to upgrade down the road, why not buy seprates...

    Get a 2 channel pre and 2channel amp and this would easily be under $300 for decent quality (More like $230) that would really drive the LSi's. When you get more money, sell them back through E-bay or here and get multichannel seperates. You'll be out the shipping and listing fees, but that's about it.

    You would also have much better results, IMHO...
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited June 2004
    Originally posted by jdhdiggs
    If he is going to upgrade down the road, why not buy seprates...
    Separates would be good. Also this 2 channel receiver would do the work:

    http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=90119692&loc=111&sp=1

    Or spend a little more for this:

    http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=90136610&loc=111&sp=1
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited June 2004
    With the LSi series, I still think it is best to get a high current amp regardless. This typically forces you into seperates. An adcom pre and an adcom 2 channel amp should run between 185-230 depending on luck, timing, and models. These would defianately drive the LSi's with all the authority they need. Of course if you want to ruin the 2-channel sound with bass boost, variable cross overs, and other equilizer type items, it will cost a bit more.
    ...
    Also, my Carver and LSi's love playing together so check out Carver gear as well...

    A Multichannel amp:

    Looking toward the future
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited June 2004
    How many Amps (Amps as in units, not amplifier) would you consider high current?

    Would something like 50A Continuous, 100A Pulse be "required" for the LSi7's?

    My AVR7200 is 75A (HCC) and that seems to be quite ok with the 7's.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited June 2004
    The Adcom GFA-535 won't push the RT35i past 100db (atleast not in my room) - Faster couldn't get it to do it either.

    I highly doubt it can push the LSi 9 very far either.

    The Adcom GFA-545 would be the only thing i would throw at the LSi9 and above. The 535 could probally take on the LSi7

    NAD is a brand to look at if you go seperates...

    Man there are so many options. But for 200 bucks...the Panasonic with its digital amps will take on the LSi head to head.

    If it were me though --

    I would just buy a starter system like the RT line --

    Because, My taste have changed in 2-3 years already. The Definitives match my current taste than the RT line does. It is so much easier to take a step back and regroup if you don't blow a huge chunk of change.

    He really needs to listen around and see what he likes. Polks looks great, sound great - but there are others out there eh..
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited June 2004
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3

    If it were me though --

    I would just buy a starter system like the RT line --
    I think that would be the best thing to do, especially if he can get the mentioned RTi6's for $150. I only suggested the LSi7's because they can be had for such a value right now.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited June 2004
    Yeah -- well It's not really price.

    The kid seems to have the funds to do what he wants with the system, however this is --

    The LSi is definetely an option, but the chance of him wanting the same thing or liking it longer than a year if he takes this in as a hobby is unlikely...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited June 2004
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    The LSi is definetely an option, but the chance of him wanting the same thing or liking it longer than a year if he takes this in as a hobby is unlikely...
    Then the LSi's are easier to unload than the RTi's, IMO. And they would keep their luster longer as well. There are always something better out there, and it's just a matter of how much you're willing to spend. With either speaker (for the price) he wouldn't go wrong.

    I was torn between Polk and KEF but with the deals out there for Polk, it was an easy choice in the end. Unfortunately my financial situation doesn't allow me to get me what I want regardless of cost. The cost of keeping my car to the performance level I want it takes care of most of my budget. Audio and home theater get the crumblings.
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  • dave shepard
    dave shepard Posts: 1,334
    edited June 2004
    I've just got totaly lost in the conversation and don't think I will be able to catch-up to speed with all the different and changing suggestions so I'm not going to try. I do have one question though, the Panny is getting the nod to be able to run the LSi's above the Denon, why? What does the Panny have the Denon doesn't?, besides the price being cheeper. I had (and still do have in the closet) the Panny SAHE-200 running the first setup I had and switched to the Denon given the advice of members. I have no regrets in doing so I like the Denon and like trying new things to see the differance's but do remember being told that the Panny was (indirectly) was inferior to others in sound and power. I have always said the Panny was a good reciever for someone on the cheeper side and never seen anyone recomend one till now it just got me wondering. The Panny does lack pre-outs and some other smaller details the Denon has but the sound is quite good and has run my speakers now with no problems.

    Just courious

    Dave
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited June 2004
    The Panasonic uses digital amps -- and it can power the LSI line, as it is capable of 4 ohm loads. It also can do this while sounding good (based on what Sean has said) --

    Denon and LSi are possibly one of the worst combos I have ever heard, not to mention - Denon receivers can't even look at 4 ohm loads. Arnt they just stable down to 6 ohms?
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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