Car breathalyzers

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,004
    "Land of the Free"

    It seems what was once a beloved statement is now a question.

    Sad that even some people on this thread are defending the question. Personally? I miss the statement. Something my son and his offspring will never get to experience.

    Tom
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  • CottageChz
    CottageChz Posts: 389
    treitz3 wrote: »
    "Land of the Free"

    It seems what was once a beloved statement is now a question.

    Sad that even some people on this thread are defending the question. Personally? I miss the statement. Something my son and his offspring will never get to experience.

    Tom
    Not sure if this is aimed at my comments, but in my comments I have pointed out that I DON’T want extra sensors in my cars for this purpose (or extra sensors/monitoring of my life in general). My comments were meant to add information detailing the possible (realistic) way that this monitoring could be implemented; some people in this thread seemed to think that an always-on live camera feed that the government is constantly watching in every new car on the road is somehow a realistic possibility.

    I also wanted to point out that even if people REALLY think this “car breathalyzer” will be implemented as a camera, most people already carry around a device that would possibly allow a party with ill intent to obtain audio and video feeds.

    I guess I just kinda figured if you’re gonna kick this around, at least discuss the real way it will possibly be implemented, not the always-on camera fed straight to big brother - that is the easy way to have everyone chime in against government overreach but does not seem to be the actual way this would be implemented.

    Here’s the article I mentioned earlier if anyone is interested https://www.motortrend.com/news/anti-drunk-driving-technology-mandated-infrastructure-bill/amp/
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,004
    From the article wrote:
    While there are no specifics, the mandated technology in future models 2026 and beyond needs to "passively monitor the performance of a driver of a motor vehicle to accurately identify whether that driver may be impaired."

    We all know what happens when "no specifics" are involved.

    If we are to discuss the real way this will be implemented, we need the specifics. If they are to once again, going to use fear to drive an agenda (in this case, death by a drunk driver)? Based upon said history of using fear to do just that? I'll pass, thank you.

    Tom
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    So if it malfunctions, your car could automatically
    pull to the side of the road in busy highway traffic?
    No thanks. That is worse than the car not starting.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,392
    treitz3 wrote: »
    From the article wrote:
    While there are no specifics, the mandated technology in future models 2026 and beyond needs to "passively monitor the performance of a driver of a motor vehicle to accurately identify whether that driver may be impaired."

    We all know what happens when "no specifics" are involved.

    If we are to discuss the real way this will be implemented, we need the specifics. If they are to once again, going to use fear to drive an agenda (in this case, death by a drunk driver)? Based upon said history of using fear to do just that? I'll pass, thank you.

    Tom
    Fear has been used to compel the surrender of liberty since the beginning of time. This is why it has become so important to undermine faith in God… for if our liberty, freedoms and the rights afforded to the people to protect those rights come from man instead of our Creator, they can easily be stripped away.

    Have you noticed that people without faith are far more likely to place complete trust in government for their protection? That is like a flock of sheep asking the wolves for protection.
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  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,120
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    a big issue is distracted driving. Cell phone/texting is just as dangerous

    That’s a sore spot with me. I write on twos (motorcycle) from April to November in Michigan and there are so many distracted drivers it’s unbelievable. Virtually, EVERYTIME I RIDE, there’s someone I wanna blow torch

    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    The real problem is as a nation we let these politicians create laws that walk all over us and 90% bend over and take it.
    Before you guys jump all over me I do not condone drunk driving or texting and driving. Like @daddyjt I'm all for serious consequences for both.

    Politicians and lobbyists create laws every day .... day in and day out. The number of laws on the books are excessive and infringing on our freedoms… Stop making stupid laws
    Kex wrote: »
    There’s no reason for “the gubment” to be monitoring these cameras. First of all, that would be impossible. The needs in manpower would far exceed what could be feasible at a reasonable cost..

    Just hire 87,000 new “qualified agents”
    daddyjt wrote: »
    Is it just me that finds it asinine that we, as a society, will go to this expense to curtail an act that about 1% of our society engages in? …

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,004
    Texting while driving....never mind....

    GDog, we agree without ever talking about it. It's amazing what I observe in a truck. Simply amazing...

    Tom
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  • daddyjt
    daddyjt Posts: 2,476
    Kex wrote: »
    There’s no reason for “the gubment” to be monitoring these cameras. First of all, that would be impossible. The needs in manpower would far exceed what could be feasible at a reasonable cost.

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