LSIM707 vs Legend L600

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stangman67
stangman67 Posts: 2,211
edited January 2022 in 2 Channel Audio
Alright polkies. I need some help.

Anyone that has heard both these or at least both the lines, please feel free to chime in. How do the L600's compare in a fairly high end 2 channel setup to 707's?

Are they fairly equal, are the 707's significantly better or vice versa? I have some decisions I need to make here in the next few weeks and trying to frame said decisions.

Supporting equipment in my sig. In a odd shaped attic, probably 300 square feet. 707's are definitely on the big size for the space. Would not be keeping the L600's long term (still have eyes on Kantas at some point) , just want to make sure I am not taking a serious step back
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,172
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    The legend series are easily one of the best products Polk has made in a very long time
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 16,981
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    VR3 wrote: »
    The legend series are easily one of the best products Polk has made in a very long time

    The same was said about the LSiM’s at the time as well.

  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,172
    edited January 2022
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    I've owned the lsim 703 and 705 and the legend is a substantial move in the right direction.

    I've always thought the older lsi line modified was better than the lsim but the legend series pinnacle tweeter is the real deal
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,177
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    Stay on your current course if you don't want the L600 long term.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 16,981
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    VR3 wrote: »
    I've owned the lsim 703 and 705 and the legend is a substantial move in the right direction.

    I've always thought the older lsi line modified was better than the lsim but the legend series pinnacle tweeter is the real deal

    I wasn’t disagreeing with you, just that was the buzz at the time. I own the full set of LSiM’s in my HT, I also have a set of 703’s stashed away. You are one of the few people around here that I would take recommendations from, and follow your findings..

  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,138
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    I have owned the 705's (one of my fav Polk's...was a Polk dealer, and also did the a debut with Russman at LSAF), I just replaced (not finished tweaking) my HT LSi25's with L600's

    L600's so far for the win
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  • stangman67
    stangman67 Posts: 2,211
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    Good to hear trey, thanks. As stated above, your opinions are one thing I can very much trust on this forum.

    A little more context, the issue is even if I am able to scrounge a tweeter for my 707's, I will be pretty gun shy with them knowing I cannot get parts for them long term, I knew the tweeters on these were suspect when I bought them but was comfortable because I had heard polk was very good at replacing them. Now not so much, so I'd really like to fix them and offload them. Otherwise and notwithstanding what you will read below, I would hang onto the 707's until I can comfortably afford the Kantas.

    Now for the full story. Let's just say I am getting a pair of the L600's at a very good price, and am wanting to gauge if it makes sense to hold onto them vice the 707's or if I will regret making the switch. Either way I think I will give the L600's a shot given the good things I am hearing here, and honestly I think they are a pretty good looking and more appropriately sized for my space. Paying full price for the L400 center will hurt though
    2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave

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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,138
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    The L400 is a beautiful monster center. Makes the RtiA6 look small ...

    LSiC
    21-1/8"W x 7-1/16"H x 9-1/16"D
    21.125x7.063x9.063
    1352.253 cu in

    L400
    26"W x 9-1/2"H x 13-1/2"D
    26x9.5x13.5
    3334.5 cu in

    2.47 times larger

    The LSiC was the weak link in the LSi series. The RTiA6 center in the RTiA series was much better, than the LSi flagship series.

    I actually installed LCi-RTS-C in-wall speaker in a DIY box because the sound was so much better.
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  • stangman67
    stangman67 Posts: 2,211
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    I agree, it does look very nice. I have the LSIM 706C so size appears to be about the same. I would continue to use the 706C but the difference in driver and cabinet design will drive me nuts not to mention that speaker has issues as well. I've had a bad go of things with my stereo lately

    I wonder what Legend resale will be, considering Polk selling basically the same speakers for half the price in the reserve line
    2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave

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  • Milito
    Milito Posts: 1,923
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    I had 705's with a 704C and now have a pair of L600's and a L400. I have never heard the 707's so the comparison is to the 705's.

    Much better bass, better mid range and a much better tweeter. Female voices sound clearer and I've heard sounds I didn't hear with my 705's.

    With the L400 voices are easier to understand, I'm an old guy and need all the help I can get the way some people talk on the TV and in movies.

    I wondered if there would be much improvement when I bought the Legends and I'm glad to report there was at least for me.
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,883
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    If it were me I would save up some coin and move higher up in speakers.
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  • stangman67
    stangman67 Posts: 2,211
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    I agree. This question really is money aside, I simply wanted to know how the speakers compare to the LSIM707
    2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave

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  • stangman67
    stangman67 Posts: 2,211
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    I have made a few calls to price our a set of new kantas. I just might be able to swing a pair, but time will tell. Gotta sell some stuff
    2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,172
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    Nah you need my hot rodded Mezzo :-p

    Not far from Virginia!
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  • stangman67
    stangman67 Posts: 2,211
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    Bro I would be all over those but the overall design of the speaker and wood color just do not work in the room. I know it seems superficial but aesthetics definitely do matter to us.

    I’m sure they would spank anything I could get for even double the price you are selling them for but won’t be able to make it work. I definitely thought hard about it for a minute
    2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,172
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    lol, all good!

    They are my future surround speakers or office rig no doubt! :)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • sgmsmg
    sgmsmg Posts: 542
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    stangman67 wrote: »
    I have made a few calls to price our a set of new kantas. I just might be able to swing a pair, but time will tell. Gotta sell some stuff

    Not sure if you saw these or if you are open to used (no affiliation):
    https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisacce8-focal-kanta-n-3-le-matte-black-pair-trade-in-full-range
    2 Channel
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    Power: PS Audio P10 Regenerator, AC12, AC10 and AC5 Cables
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    Home Theater
    Pre: Anthem AVM90/JBL SDP-55
    Amps: Parasound A31, A51x2
    Speakers: Polk LSiM 707 (FL/FR), Polk LSiM706 (Center), LSiM 703 (SL/SR/SBL/SBR), Polk 900-LS (Atmos)
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  • stangman67
    stangman67 Posts: 2,211
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    I actually just messaged them! I am a few hours south so would be pretty easy to go grab them. Think the price is a bit steep on a used pair with those blems on top. If they can drop to 8500 or so I would be in
    2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave

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  • sgmsmg
    sgmsmg Posts: 542
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    stangman67 wrote: »
    I actually just messaged them! I am a few hours south so would be pretty easy to go grab them. Think the price is a bit steep on a used pair with those blems on top. If they can drop to 8500 or so I would be in

    Good luck! You should also try and negotiate a good deal on the matching center channel as well😀
    2 Channel
    Pre:Bryston BP173
    Amp:Bryston 14B3
    Speakers: Golden Ear Triton Reference
    Source: Oppo UDP-205, Bryston BDA-3, Bryston BDP-3, Bryston BCD-3, Apple TV, Amazon Fire
    Cables: Wireworld Gold Eclipse 7 Speaker, Wireworld Gold Eclipse 7 XLR, AQ Diamond USB/HDMI
    Power: PS Audio P10 Regenerator, AC12, AC10 and AC5 Cables
    Display: Sony XBR65Z9F

    Home Theater
    Pre: Anthem AVM90/JBL SDP-55
    Amps: Parasound A31, A51x2
    Speakers: Polk LSiM 707 (FL/FR), Polk LSiM706 (Center), LSiM 703 (SL/SR/SBL/SBR), Polk 900-LS (Atmos)
    Subwoofers: SVS SB16 x 4
    Source: Oppo UDP-205, Apple TV, Amazon Fire
    Cables: AQ Meteor/Rocket 88, AQ Niagara/Sky
    Power: Torus AVR20, Shunyata Denali, Shunyata Delta, Cullen, PangeaAC9SE Cables
    Display: Sony XBR85Z9G
  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,663
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    stangman67 wrote: »
    Bro I would be all over those but the overall design of the speaker and wood color just do not work in the room.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
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    VR3 wrote: »
    I've owned the lsim 703 and 705 and the legend is a substantial move in the right direction.

    I've always thought the older lsi line modified was better than the lsim but the legend series pinnacle tweeter is the real deal

    fully concur (I'd say a little better, I really did like those 703 though). The tweeter upgrade from the LSi to the LSIm was an mild evolution. The new one in the L and R series are.......just.........dayum.

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  • stangman67
    stangman67 Posts: 2,211
    edited January 2022
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    Well I have decided to go all out and get a set of Focal Kanta 2’s on order.

    With that said, in anyone is interested in a set of L600’s for a great price, please let me know. Within a few hours of Norfolk , VA is preferred as shipping will be pricey as hell
    2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave

    2 Channel Focal Kanta 3 I Modwright SWL9.0 Anniversary Pre I Modwright PH9.0X I Modwright KWA-150SE I VPI Prime Signature w/ Soundsmith Zephyr MIMC I Lumin U2 Mini I North Star Designs Intenso DAC I Audience OHNO ICs/Audience Furutech FP-S55N and FP-S032N Power Cables/Acoustic Zen Satori I Isotek Sirius
  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,138
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    Go big or go home....congrats. Those are sweet
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    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,177
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    stangman67 wrote: »
    Well I have decided to go all out and get a set of Focal Kanta 2’s on order.

    With that said, in anyone is interested in a set of L600’s for a great price, please let me know. Within a few hours of Norfolk , VA is preferred as shipping will be pricey as hell

    Do you already have the L600? For how long?
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  • stangman67
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    For about 6 hours now
    2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave

    2 Channel Focal Kanta 3 I Modwright SWL9.0 Anniversary Pre I Modwright PH9.0X I Modwright KWA-150SE I VPI Prime Signature w/ Soundsmith Zephyr MIMC I Lumin U2 Mini I North Star Designs Intenso DAC I Audience OHNO ICs/Audience Furutech FP-S55N and FP-S032N Power Cables/Acoustic Zen Satori I Isotek Sirius
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,177
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    stangman67 wrote: »
    For about 6 hours now
    You could just send them back at zero cost to you....
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • stangman67
    stangman67 Posts: 2,211
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    Super insightful John, thanks
    2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave

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  • Clipdat
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    stangman67 wrote: »
    For about 6 hours now
    You could just send them back at zero cost to you....

    Typically the customer always has to pay the return shipping fees for the 30-60 day trials that companies/retailers offer. So I'm not sure about zero cost.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,177
    edited January 2022
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    Except for packages that weigh more than 66 pounds (i.e. excess weight packages), we will provide a free return shipping label for all Polk products being returned. For the excess weight items, the customer must pay the return shipping. You must return the product to us in its original packaging and include all accessories. Once we receive the product in our warehouse, we will give you a refund for the returned product.

    Polk was going to pay the freight for my L800's, and did not ask me for a penny to do so...
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • stangman67
    stangman67 Posts: 2,211
    edited January 2022
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    While I do appreciate the banter on this, there is a damn good reason I am selling these, you will just have to trust me on that

    If you must know or are an interested buyer, send me a PM and I will explain
    Post edited by stangman67 on
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