The Grande Utopia Project

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  • Gardenstater
    Gardenstater Posts: 4,214
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    VR3 wrote: »
    And then they might sound like the sopra..... 😢

    Looks like they use the Faraday Rings (part of their NIC Neutral Inductance Circuit design) in the new Utopias, Sopras, and Kantas.

    https://www.focal.com/en/focal-teach/nic-neutral-inductance-circuit
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,164
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    The new line sounds so different then the older one, just a completely different take on hifi that I am not interested in. Just different preferences
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,164
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    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • xschop
    xschop Posts: 4,759
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    I knew you'd release the Cap Kraken. :)
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,657
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    Congrats! Very nice.
  • bcwsrt
    bcwsrt Posts: 1,644
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    Another project where the attention to detail is spectacular. That is a thing of beauty. There are some impressive folks on here. Congrats!

    Brian

    One-owner Polk Audio RTA 15TL speakers refreshed w/ Sonicap, Vishay/Mills and Cardas components by "pitdogg2," "xschop" billet tweeter plates and BH5 | Stereo REL Acoustics T/5x subwoofers w/ Bassline Blue cables | Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum III integrated tube amp | Technics SL-1210G turntable w/ Ortofon 2M Black LVB 250 MM cart | Sony CDP-508ESD CD player (as a transport) | LampizatOr Baltic 4 tube DAC | Nordost & DH Labs cables/interconnects | APC H15 Power Conditioner | GIK Acoustics room treatments | Degritter RCM
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,475
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    Lookin' good Treyster! Talk about a tight fit....

    You want me to bring my thermal imager next time we GTG?

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,164
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    Thanks guys! Appreciate the kind comments.

    You can, I am able to hit the resistors with my laser thermometer and not noticing anything running warm at all which is good!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • JayMX
    JayMX Posts: 441
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    @VR3 I’ve been lurking and watching this thread. Your work as always is exquisite. I will crash the discussion with a quick sidebar on the kit speakers we discussed over PM a while back…. I declare that the Focal Audiom TD5 tweeters are by far and away the best I’ve ever owned. Really amazing.

    After research I’m convinced these are late 90’s / early 2000’s Zalytron kit speakers with the Focal tweeters, PHL woofers, North Creek caps and 12AWG inductors. I had to remove the ports that someone hacked into the cabs and replaced with PR’s - took lots of dusty router work haha. I remoted the crossovers into a pair stands I built and veneered with maple, distressed on purpose. Very efficient and extremely cohesive in the mid and upper registers. Paired with a good sub I really enjoy them…

    They’re nothing as stunning as what you’re working on, but I will say again that these tweeters are downright fantastic.

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    …and now, back to our regularly scheduled program…
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    Pairs that have passed through: Monitor 4b (Peerless), Monitor 5a (Peerless), Monitor 5b (SL1000), Monitor 5b (SL2000) (4x pair), Monitor 7b (Peerless), Modified Monitor 7c’s (194’s), Monitor 10a (Peerless), Monitor 10b (5x pair), RTA8, RTA8TL, RTA 11T, RTA12c (194's), SDA CRS, SDA 2 (2x pair), SDA 2a, SDA 2b, SDA 1b, SDA 1c, SDA SRS 2 (2x pair), SDA SRS 3.1TL (198’s) (2x pair)...and more to come, it’s a sickness.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,164
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    I was curious what you did with those! What a great project, love the external crossovers in the stands. Are those crossovers stock? They look to use some nice parts for sure!

    The audiom tlr tweeter strikes a great balance between musicality and detail with great imaging. It is just detailed enough and sounds great, I am glad you have been enjoying it!

    I have never seen that version of the ts5 where it used a the tgu/tlr magnet. Not sure if I said that in the PM but that's a rare tweeter you have in thst configuration!

    Good stuff!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • JayMX
    JayMX Posts: 441
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    VR3 wrote: »
    Are those crossovers stock? They look to use some nice parts for sure!

    Yep, all that stuff was crammed into the cabinets when I got them! When Ding Dong whoever decided putting in a port was good idea, they damaged the crossover backing boards, so I repaired the damage and moved them down into the new stands. I probably gained a cubic foot of cabinet volume haha.

    All the crossover components are by North Creek which I believe is defunct after a factory fire years ago. Someone spent a pretty penny on them originally. I figured it was worth the effort to restore/mod them so they were usable.

    Current Collection: Monitor 4a (Peerless), Monitor 5B (Peerless), Modified Monitor 7b (Peerless), RTA15TL (SL3000), SDA CRS+ (194’s), SDA SRS 2.3TL, R100's, R200’s, R300 🤩
    Pairs that have passed through: Monitor 4b (Peerless), Monitor 5a (Peerless), Monitor 5b (SL1000), Monitor 5b (SL2000) (4x pair), Monitor 7b (Peerless), Modified Monitor 7c’s (194’s), Monitor 10a (Peerless), Monitor 10b (5x pair), RTA8, RTA8TL, RTA 11T, RTA12c (194's), SDA CRS, SDA 2 (2x pair), SDA 2a, SDA 2b, SDA 1b, SDA 1c, SDA SRS 2 (2x pair), SDA SRS 3.1TL (198’s) (2x pair)...and more to come, it’s a sickness.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,164
    edited January 12
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    That tweeter brand new retails for over 1k twenty years ago, that was an expensive speaker set for sure!
    I'm glad you brought them back to life!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,164
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    Secured a set of the second generation grande spikes at a great price! Now to figure out how to mount them!
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    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,677
    edited January 13
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    What is that 3/8" threaded rod?
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,164
    edited January 13
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    5/8

    The grandes weigh 400 pounds so it's not just weight that's a concern but also lateral movements if you need to slide them... So the long, wide threaded rods provide that.

    I have half inch thick steel 4 inch wide disc for floor savers
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    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,677
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    Well my first guess was 1/2" before the edit. The picture played with my eyes.

    I figured they had to be beefy.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,164
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    I remember my Dad's set, they are beefy spikes for sure. Not sure you can tell in the pics but they come in two mini crates versus a box
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,164
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    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,164
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    xschop wrote: »
    VR3 wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/QwwyMesEqq0

    Sound clip, recorded with my phone... About 105db peaks

    My phone's speaker about popped. Taking requests? Nice work as usual.

    First video taken of the grandes above.... Same song today

    https://youtu.be/BJgN0fJdCKk?feature=shared
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,677
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    VR3 wrote: »
    I remember my Dad's set, they are beefy spikes for sure. Not sure you can tell in the pics but they come in two mini crates versus a box

    Yes I could tell they came in a nice wooden crate.
    What is the black part made of, if I may be nosy ☺️
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,164
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    If I recall correctly it is a solid metal. I know the rod and points are stainless. I want to say the black part is aluminum
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,164
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    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • stangman67
    stangman67 Posts: 2,210
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    Sounds badass Trey. Drooling through my iPhone speakers! I just played “Bullet Train” on my big system, not my style but certainly can demonstrate dynamics very well. The bass line is impressive.
    2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,164
    edited January 26
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    Thanks man, the imaging is the key, the sound whips around you like a vortex, crazy sensations
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,164
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    Measurements from the listening position

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    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,164
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    The fun is about to continue!

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    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,164
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    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,164
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    Heck of a spike

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    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,164
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    It fit!

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    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.