L800 - Single Ended Amp

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  • tjcinnamon
    tjcinnamon Posts: 100
    Is it pretty unanimous that the group thinks an Anthem MCA or P series would not reduce the SDA effect?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,494
    tjcinnamon wrote: »
    Is it pretty unanimous that the group thinks an Anthem MCA or P series would not reduce the SDA effect?

    It would be best to contact Anthem to enquire about the topology of their amps.
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  • tjcinnamon
    tjcinnamon Posts: 100
    F1nut wrote: »
    tjcinnamon wrote: »
    Is it pretty unanimous that the group thinks an Anthem MCA or P series would not reduce the SDA effect?

    It would be best to contact Anthem to enquire about the topology of their amps.
    I emailed them yesterday and I’m hoping they get back to me. I saw an article about the P2 from 2012 talking about how it was single ended. I’m being extra cautious because I don’t want some vendor to eat the cost of me returning something.
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  • F1nut
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    The P2 has single ended and balanced output options.
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  • F1nut
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    jaspritvid wrote: »
    The higher end Marantz use hypex so may not be best match but i believe the higher Denon's should be good

    Pure nonsense.
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  • TelephoneAudio
    TelephoneAudio Posts: 9
    Soooo
    Hypex Nilai 500 Monoblocks… good or bad for L800 and SDA?

    https://deercreekaudio.com/products/ols/products/hypex-nilai500-mono-block-amplifier?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIo8aEjrTJ_wIVeROtBh0PdgEhEAAYASAAEgLSIPD_BwE
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  • F1nut
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    You will need to find out what the topology is. If it is dual differential you cannot use them with the L800.
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  • TelephoneAudio
    TelephoneAudio Posts: 9
    Found the data sheet. Was not clear to me
    https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/pdf/Nilai500 01xx R2 (1).pdf
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,270
    Does this help?

    rgaob3y4rnal.png

    https://deercreekaudio.com/products/ols/products/hypex-nilai-500-stereo-amplifier
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
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  • TelephoneAudio
    TelephoneAudio Posts: 9
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    Does this help?

    rgaob3y4rnal.png

    https://deercreekaudio.com/products/ols/products/hypex-nilai-500-stereo-amplifier
    That’s input
    The L800 are effected by the speaker amp output
    I’ve put a ticket in with Hypex on this
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,494
    Chances are if the input is balanced differential, so is the output making the amp incompatible with the L800.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,270
    Out of curiosity please respond as I also found this statement
    Hypex Ncore
    Along with the new level of Class D audio performance, ... input signals floating for a true balanced differential input, utilizing the Hypex Ncore NC1200.
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • TelephoneAudio
    TelephoneAudio Posts: 9
    F1nut wrote: »
    Chances are if the input is balanced differential, so is the output making the amp incompatible with the L800.

    I’m guessing you’re right. Waiting on Hypex for the true true word on this
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  • TelephoneAudio
    TelephoneAudio Posts: 9
    George from Deer Creek Audio - where I bought Nilai 500 monoblocks has confirmed these ARE compatible with Polk L800! Woot
    - “The Nilai 500 Monoblocks are not bridged internally. They will easily handle your Polk L800 speakers”
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,270
    IMHO I would still wait for a response from Hypex
    Many don't understand the topology of the L800. Although they are SDA they are not the same of SDA of the past.

    The amps will not blow up the speakers they just won't always sound correct. I have experienced the L800's and when the amp is wrong the stereo image floats as much as 10' in the room. Sounds crazy.
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,494
    TelephoneAudio wrote: »
    George from Deer Creek Audio - where I bought Nilai 500 monoblocks has confirmed these ARE compatible with Polk L800! Woot
    - “The Nilai 500 Monoblocks are not bridged internally. They will easily handle your Polk L800 speakers”

    It's entirely possible to have balanced dual differential inputs and outputs in an amp that is internally single-ended. With the L800 it's the dual differential topology that is the issue.
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  • nooshinjohn
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    TelephoneAudio wrote: »
    George from Deer Creek Audio - where I bought Nilai 500 monoblocks has confirmed these ARE compatible with Polk L800! Woot
    - “The Nilai 500 Monoblocks are not bridged internally. They will easily handle your Polk L800 speakers”

    I would get that in writing before I would connect them to my Polks…
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  • TelephoneAudio
    TelephoneAudio Posts: 9
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    TelephoneAudio wrote: »
    George from Deer Creek Audio - where I bought Nilai 500 monoblocks has confirmed these ARE compatible with Polk L800! Woot
    - “The Nilai 500 Monoblocks are not bridged internally. They will easily handle your Polk L800 speakers”

    I would get that in writing before I would connect them to my Polks…

    Hypex Sales and Support both confirmed Nilai 500 monoblocks are compatible with L800 via email
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  • TelephoneAudio
    TelephoneAudio Posts: 9
    Hypex support confirmed the Nilai 500 monoblock is a single ended amplifier.
    I.e. the amp Does-Not have a differential output
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,494
    You're good to go then.
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  • TelephoneAudio
    TelephoneAudio Posts: 9
    F1nut wrote: »
    You're good to go then.

    Yup and shared elsewhere in case others have this niche idea / combo
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,270
    Keep us update, we look forward to hearing your results
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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