Phase 1 of next speaker purchase
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displayname wrote: »So, I have auditioned although in a subpar and compromised set up:
Paradigm Persona 5F
Revel Salon 2
Was this at the small, almost square room at Nebraska furniture mart? I feel like those two are always on display in there with the Anthem electronics. Can't find a sales guy there that knows anything about them, but they've probably been in there for 2+ years now.
I agree, but at the price of the Salon 2, you're almost to the Siena. Not to mention the Siena series 2 is out now.I would take the Rosso Fiorentino Volterras over them every day and twice on Sunday.
Similar MSRP but different design methodologies and it really shows in the attention to sound detail.
Willie,
Yeah man... sucks that given the size of our metroplex, if you don't want a Wilson or Rockport, you're stuck with subpar demo rooms. The guy I met there was actually very knowledgeable.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
So what exactly is a “highly boutique” brand? One with limited distribution and/or name recognition? I understand Joey wants some decent resale value at the end of several years of use, but I say buy what moves you and take your lumps (or not) when you sell.
I agree, I wouldn't worry about resale value unless I bought it to sell it. I buy audio equipment for sound quality only.
Nah, knowing me, I keep moving up. I see this as a journey, rather than a destination. Given limited aka finite resources, I can't just buy without planning ahead.
I am patient and buy units that I can move up from... I'll know when I retire from the audio game (then I'll buy something I don't care to move from), but I hope to have another 3 decades of hearing left (provided I don't croak for some reason). Buying something that is used, say like the Persona 9H I had just posted above gives me leverage for future purchases. If I buy only for sound, that's a temporary ideal... at some point, I'll want to try something that perhaps is closer to my absolute sound (because what I might find sonically good right now, I might not after a few years).
In the end, I would hope I have accumulate the equity to buy something like this in a room twice my size (I have already run the idea of building a guesthouse in the backyard, that would work as my stereo room (but be a guesthouse for resale purposes), with my wife). If my current projections are correct, I should be able to do something similar to this in maybe less than 10 years... provided I am lucky.
Magico M6
Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
I found these, got in contact with Johnny and seeing what we can do.
Ideally I would like to hear them in my own space.
He would take my units and my JL Audio 113v2 x2 in for a trade and give me the Personas for $2500.
He would send his guys from Houston to my place to pick up my units and he would deliver the Personas.
I haven't been able to iron out the details yet because I had to work, but maaaybe if I was able to figure out a deposit (non refundable), maybe $1-2,000, I could have him deliver it in the morning say 10am, and then give me 3 hours with them, and I would have his guys come back either take the Personas back to Houston with my deposit, or apply the deposit to the purchase and take my speakers and sub.
That's really the only way I could say buying something of this caliber would be acceptable to me.
Paradigm Persona 9H
I think the color combo, black with black woofers look awesome. Maybe a red cabinet would be nicer... or baby blue. I would've also liked a black baffle, all murdered out would be pretty cool.
I think you will regret letting the subs go.2 Channel Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II, 2 REL Carbon Limited, Norma Revo IPA-140B, Lumin U2 Mini, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Modwright PH 150, Denon DP-59l w/Denon DL-301MKII, WAY Silver 3 Ana+ Speaker Cables, WAY Silver 4+ Interconnect Cables, AudioQuest Niagara 7000 w/Dragon and Hurricane Power Cables -
I found these, got in contact with Johnny and seeing what we can do.
Ideally I would like to hear them in my own space.
He would take my units and my JL Audio 113v2 x2 in for a trade and give me the Personas for $2500.
He would send his guys from Houston to my place to pick up my units and he would deliver the Personas.
I haven't been able to iron out the details yet because I had to work, but maaaybe if I was able to figure out a deposit (non refundable), maybe $1-2,000, I could have him deliver it in the morning say 10am, and then give me 3 hours with them, and I would have his guys come back either take the Personas back to Houston with my deposit, or apply the deposit to the purchase and take my speakers and sub.
That's really the only way I could say buying something of this caliber would be acceptable to me.
Paradigm Persona 9H
I think the color combo, black with black woofers look awesome. Maybe a red cabinet would be nicer... or baby blue. I would've also liked a black baffle, all murdered out would be pretty cool.
I think you will regret letting the subs go.
I may have to ask him what the trade in delta is without the subs. Good point too.
But the 9H has room correction. Not sure it would be duplicitous.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
I found these, got in contact with Johnny and seeing what we can do.
Ideally I would like to hear them in my own space.
He would take my units and my JL Audio 113v2 x2 in for a trade and give me the Personas for $2500.
He would send his guys from Houston to my place to pick up my units and he would deliver the Personas.
I haven't been able to iron out the details yet because I had to work, but maaaybe if I was able to figure out a deposit (non refundable), maybe $1-2,000, I could have him deliver it in the morning say 10am, and then give me 3 hours with them, and I would have his guys come back either take the Personas back to Houston with my deposit, or apply the deposit to the purchase and take my speakers and sub.
That's really the only way I could say buying something of this caliber would be acceptable to me.
Paradigm Persona 9H
I think the color combo, black with black woofers look awesome. Maybe a red cabinet would be nicer... or baby blue. I would've also liked a black baffle, all murdered out would be pretty cool.
I think you will regret letting the subs go.
I may have to ask him what the trade in delta is without the subs. Good point too.
But the 9H has room correction. Not sure it would be duplicitous.
Yep. The 9H’s are nice. I gave them a good listen a while ago. But after adding subs to my setup I’m not sure I will ever be without them. No matter what speakers are added or taken away. But you could always up the subs also. 😎 (not my money!)2 Channel Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II, 2 REL Carbon Limited, Norma Revo IPA-140B, Lumin U2 Mini, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Modwright PH 150, Denon DP-59l w/Denon DL-301MKII, WAY Silver 3 Ana+ Speaker Cables, WAY Silver 4+ Interconnect Cables, AudioQuest Niagara 7000 w/Dragon and Hurricane Power Cables -
I found these, got in contact with Johnny and seeing what we can do.
Ideally I would like to hear them in my own space.
He would take my units and my JL Audio 113v2 x2 in for a trade and give me the Personas for $2500.
He would send his guys from Houston to my place to pick up my units and he would deliver the Personas.
I haven't been able to iron out the details yet because I had to work, but maaaybe if I was able to figure out a deposit (non refundable), maybe $1-2,000, I could have him deliver it in the morning say 10am, and then give me 3 hours with them, and I would have his guys come back either take the Personas back to Houston with my deposit, or apply the deposit to the purchase and take my speakers and sub.
That's really the only way I could say buying something of this caliber would be acceptable to me.
Paradigm Persona 9H
I think the color combo, black with black woofers look awesome. Maybe a red cabinet would be nicer... or baby blue. I would've also liked a black baffle, all murdered out would be pretty cool.
I think you will regret letting the subs go.
I may have to ask him what the trade in delta is without the subs. Good point too.
But the 9H has room correction. Not sure it would be duplicitous.
Yep. The 9H’s are nice. I gave them a good listen a while ago. But after adding subs to my setup I’m not sure I will ever be without them. No matter what speakers are added or taken away. But you could always up the subs also. 😎 (not my money!)
Very good, I will definitely take your recommendation into account. Maybe I will have to keep my subs.
Thx manMagico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Emma: "So how long did you listen to records last night? 6 hours?"
Me: "4 hours."
Emma: "What?? I told you to stop listening to records, Dad... you sleep so late."
For a 6 year old, she's very smart.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
I thought we had 12 to 18 month s to help you spend your money.
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
^^^ Lol
Opportunity waits for no one I guess.
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Ok, found some others:
Vandersteen 5 Carbon
Revel Salon
Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Another dream for me, to hear the Tannoy Kingdom Royal. Something about a concentric drive seems to be perfect for chamber music and vocalists.
I can only imagine what a mono recording of Dean Martin would sound like on those.
Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Are you only interested in name brand speakers? No boutique brands?
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Are you only interested in name brand speakers? No boutique brands?
Some boutique as long as it can command resale down the line.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
displayname wrote: »So, I have auditioned although in a subpar and compromised set up:
Paradigm Persona 5F
Revel Salon 2
Was this at the small, almost square room at Nebraska furniture mart? I feel like those two are always on display in there with the Anthem electronics. Can't find a sales guy there that knows anything about them, but they've probably been in there for 2+ years now.
I agree, but at the price of the Salon 2, you're almost to the Siena. Not to mention the Siena series 2 is out now.I would take the Rosso Fiorentino Volterras over them every day and twice on Sunday.
Similar MSRP but different design methodologies and it really shows in the attention to sound detail.
Willie,
Yeah man... sucks that given the size of our metroplex, if you don't want a Wilson or Rockport, you're stuck with subpar demo rooms. The guy I met there was actually very knowledgeable.
Have you been to the new Hi end Theater and Audio (Vu Phan's place) in Carrollton yet? He's putting a lot of work into his new listening spaces, including having room size and wall materials selected by audio pros. He seems to be building what he wants vs working with what's available. He also has Rockport and Magico.
I haven't been able to listen there, but what I saw looked really cool.Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
MastersounD Dueventi > Rosso Fiorentino Certaldo or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
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Another dream for me, to hear the Tannoy Kingdom Royal. Something about a concentric drive seems to be perfect for chamber music and vocalists.
I can only imagine what a mono recording of Dean Martin would sound like on those.
I like the look of those provided the space. Sturdy lol...2 ChannelTurntable - VPI Classic 2/Ortofon 2M BlueAmplification - Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II, Parks Audio Budgie PhonoSpeakers - GoldenEar Triton 17.2 Home TheaterDenon AVR-X3300W; Rotel RMB-1066; Klipsch RP-280F's, Klipsch RP-450C, Polk FXi3's, Polk RC60i; Dual SVS PB 2000's; BenQ HT2050; Elite Screens 120"Man CaveTurntable - Pro-Ject 2.9 Wood/Grado GoldAmplification - Dared SL2000a, McCormack DNA 0.5 DeluxeCD: Cambridge AudioSpeakers - Wharfedale Linton 85th Anniversary; LSiM 703; SDA 2A -
Another dream for me, to hear the Tannoy Kingdom Royal. Something about a concentric drive seems to be perfect for chamber music and vocalists.
I can only imagine what a mono recording of Dean Martin would sound like on those.
I like the look of those provided the space. Sturdy lol...
Like my youngest, sturdy is what my wife calls her.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
displayname wrote: »displayname wrote: »So, I have auditioned although in a subpar and compromised set up:
Paradigm Persona 5F
Revel Salon 2
Was this at the small, almost square room at Nebraska furniture mart? I feel like those two are always on display in there with the Anthem electronics. Can't find a sales guy there that knows anything about them, but they've probably been in there for 2+ years now.
I agree, but at the price of the Salon 2, you're almost to the Siena. Not to mention the Siena series 2 is out now.I would take the Rosso Fiorentino Volterras over them every day and twice on Sunday.
Similar MSRP but different design methodologies and it really shows in the attention to sound detail.
Willie,
Yeah man... sucks that given the size of our metroplex, if you don't want a Wilson or Rockport, you're stuck with subpar demo rooms. The guy I met there was actually very knowledgeable.
Have you been to the new Hi end Theater and Audio (Vu Phan's place) in Carrollton yet? He's putting a lot of work into his new listening spaces, including having room size and wall materials selected by audio pros. He seems to be building what he wants vs working with what's available. He also has Rockport and Magico.
I haven't been able to listen there, but what I saw looked really cool.
I haven’t been since he moved out of Plano.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Those Tannoys are some of the ugliest things I’ve ever seen... 😬Alea jacta est!
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Those Tannoys are some of the ugliest things I’ve ever seen... 😬
Hahaha
I find them coolMagico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder! 😉Hahaha
I find them cool
I just find that they look like too much cheap plastic on the front, and too much like a giant square box. I’d have to see them in person (and obviously hear them) before I’d pass final judgment.
If I was going for a statement speaker right now, I’d trend toward Sonos Faber Aida or something from the Focal Utopia line. I’d have to see and hear those too before passing final judgement.
It takes large rooms to integrate any sort of large speaker with even a modicum of elegance IMO, not to mention performance considerations. A beautiful speaker is not an eyesore. It’s a sculpture. I don’t think the Tannoys fit that descriptor. 🤔Alea jacta est! -
Up close, the utopia line doesn’t inspire me. The finish out is... meh.
The tannoy is anything but plastic, I’m sure pictures don’t do it justiceMagico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Mocha birds eye.... mmmm... if only I could convince the wife that this needs to go in the bedroom because the brown matches the tone of the room. Too bad they would be overkill and way too big.
Dynaudio C4 Platinum
Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
I’d own those Dyns again in a second
That are a great speaker2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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Don't worry about Kex... his preferred eye-candy is Rosanne Barr.
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
Ooh
Interesante
https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisa79i1-paradigm-persona-9h-hybrid-loudspeakers-in-aria-blue-metallic-finish-full-rangeMagico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Those are ugly as sin...
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
Joey, have you considered PMC speakers?
Their fact 12 signature speakers are $20k a pair MSRP: https://www.pmc-speakers.com/products/consumer/fact/fact12-signature
https://www.hifiplus.com/articles/pmc-fact12-signature-floorstanding-loudspeaker/ -
Ugly they may be but they can hang with the best.
For the record I agree with that, I'm not fond of that finish. -
Yes they are, so you like Rosanne too, then?! 😂nooshinjohn wrote: »Those are ugly as sin...Alea jacta est! -
As far as I’m concerned, once you go over a certain price point, not to mention size (so just about every floor stander), the looks have to be part of the package, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so... YMMV.Ugly they may be but they can hang with the best.Alea jacta est! -
For that price you should look, and listen, to the Magico S5 Mark 2 speaker. Plus you can choose the appropriate color.
https://www.magicoaudio.com/s-series-s5Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits.
