Consensus on Full Sized Pickup Trucks
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I am considering purchasing a new pickup up truck. Extended cab 5.5' bed. I don't necessarily need towing capacity and would prefer a naturally aspirated V8. I don't "need" 4wd but would probably get a better deal on 1 hear in FL since they don't sell that many but have heard that from a few friends. I am only considering Chevy/GMC, Ford or Toyota. I don't care about fuel economy but it must run reg. gas. Budget is $50-$60K. What is your vote...
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Consensus on Full Sized Pickup Trucks 57 votes
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Ford F150I Voted for the ford simply on the grounds that I love my expedition and haven’t had any issues. I also loved my sequoia which is built on a tundra chassis, but it does seem like tundras have more issues than sequoias. I wouldn’t touch a Chevy/GMC with a ten foot pole...Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
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Ford F150The only thing I dislike about my Ford, is oil changes. Have the 5.0 liter with towing package and it takes 8 qts of synthetic.
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Ford F150I decline to participate on the grounds that people are just gonna get butthurt
Admit it, you declined because Dodge Ram wasn't a choice....
In all seriousness, I have to wonder why GMC/Chevy are grouped as one choice; if that got the most votes, which one would you go with?
So, are you willing to put forth a little effort or are you happy sitting in your skeptical poo pile?
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Toyota TundraI choose tundra.....admittedly I am a Toyota fanboy. Resale value and reliability are important to me. The f150 and Silverado are nice trucks but they don’t nearly hold their value like Toyota does. That said, the tundra IS dated in many ways and will not have the bells and whistles.Shawn
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Toyota TundraSince most GMC model lines are built on the same assembly lines as Chevrolet pickups and SUVs, the differences between the vehicles are limited. Today, much of uniqueness is found primarily in cosmetic packages: options and trim levels. The trim and materials used for internal design give customers pause trying to decide which vehicle to buy. Typically, a GMC truck's base level is about the same as a Chevy midlevel trim. A stock top-level GMC typically has more luxury amenities than the top-trim Chevy truck.My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160
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Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |
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I'd go best price on close out for a Chevy/GMC...I'm still seeing 2019's in our area with huge markdowns2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
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Chevy/GMCI would go Ram TOTL trim if it were on the list, but GMC would be a very close second.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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Sticker prices on full size pickups are heart stopping. I’m not qualified to vote here, but they all seem like good choices.
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Chevy/GMCChevy is the best value.
Ford is ugly and more expensive.
Toyota is coming out with an all new tundra next year. The current one is just very old technology. But my ‘18 4Runner is old tech and I love it.Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant -
My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160
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ManCave: HT:Polk LSiM 706VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's|| Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro Sunfire TGA-7401| Sony PS4 Pro| Sony PS4 Pro|SVS PB13 Ultra| Oppo UDP 203 | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Samsung 55" SUHD TV | Sony PS4
Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |
Office BlueSound Node| KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |
Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |
Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's
Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | LSiM 705's | -
Chevy/GMC2020 6 ft bed. Stripped. Stock. Ready for upgrades. 0-60 in 20mins.
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Chevy/GMCI choose tundra.....admittedly I am a Toyota fanboy. Resale value and reliability are important to me. The f150 and Silverado are nice trucks but they don’t nearly hold their value like Toyota does. That said, the tundra IS dated in many ways and will not have the bells balls and whistles.
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Toyota TundraI think the Toyota V8 is around 380hp and 400ft/lbs. Starts at $33kafterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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Like my dad says. Toyletota. With a 4 flusher on the floor. Buy American. Ford or Chevy/ GMC. I'm a Mopar fan but right now they are owned by the French company Fiat and France lost during WW2. Not saying I don't like the French but...Gustard X26 Pro DAC
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Toyota TundraTundra, currently own a Toyota 4WD truck and a Nissan Titan. The Toyota is the best pick of the 3 your looking at.Home Theater
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Uhhhhh....FIAT is Italian, not French.
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Chevy/GMCI will buy American, even if the resale value suffers a bit as Americans could use the money after what we have just been through. That and the fact that I have had my Chevy truck driving for almost 350,000 miles and she still looks and runs great.
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Toyota TundraThe Tundra is built in Texas by Americans.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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Chevy/GMCThe Tundra is built in Texas by Americans.
And the profits, free of taxes, goes to Japan.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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nooshinjohn wrote: »
That doesn’t seem fair. Any documentation to show they don’t have to pay taxes on any profit they make in the US?
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Chevy/GMCnooshinjohn wrote: »
That doesn’t seem fair. Any documentation to show they don’t have to pay taxes on any profit they make in the US?
It is part of a sovereignty agreement. Japanese auto plants are considered to be as sovereign as an embassy. I know that was the case for Subaru, and am assuming the same for the rest of them.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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nooshinjohn wrote: »nooshinjohn wrote: »
That doesn’t seem fair. Any documentation to show they don’t have to pay taxes on any profit they make in the US?
It is part of a sovereignty agreement. Japanese auto plants are considered to be as sovereign as an embassy. I know that was the case for Subaru, and am assuming the same for the rest of them.
Documentation please.
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Chevy/GMCnooshinjohn wrote: »nooshinjohn wrote: »
That doesn’t seem fair. Any documentation to show they don’t have to pay taxes on any profit they make in the US?
It is part of a sovereignty agreement. Japanese auto plants are considered to be as sovereign as an embassy. I know that was the case for Subaru, and am assuming the same for the rest of them.
Documentation please.
Yeah... let me see if I can get into the confidential documentation that would be a status agreement negotiated by several levels of government and private corporations. They do pay taxes on a bunch of stuff along the way, but the big money goes home.
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Toyota TundraI have a 2020 tundra as a daily driver - 40 miles each way. Tow a 25 foot travel trailer for family camping trips and a Utility trailer on weekends. I have the crewmax which is absolutely huge inside. The 5.5 foot bed seems small but I have never been in a bind to fit something. It’s comfortable, reliable, holds value better then competitors and looks pretty mean too.......has a 5.7 liter v8 (although rumor is they’re going to a twin turbo v6 shortly). The infotainment system SUCKS but is easily remedied with aftermarket. Oh.....and as mentioned it is built in the US. This is NOT to say that the other trucks don’t have their positives as well.
But we are exclusively a Toyota family because of reliability and value. My 2014 4runner was totaled by a guy running a red light- hit me going 50+ mph. Truck was 5 years old almost to the day with 102000 trouble free miles. Insurance gave me over 80% of original purchase price. Good luck getting that with other brands.
And as for balls - it’s got plenty.......
Shawn
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Chevy/GMCI would personally go Chevy/GMC. I’ve always liked the way the Silverado drives. Tundra would be a close second.
If I was going to do the F150, I’d go with a Raptor. But that doesn’t meet the engine requirements from the OP.Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
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Chevy/GMCdisplayname wrote: »If I was going to do the F150, I’d go with a Raptor. But that doesn’t meet the engine requirements from the OP.
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Toyota TundraFord has a huge recall under way due to a defective part that may cause the doors to open on their own while driving....just a side note and warning Ford owners.
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When I retire I'm buying an old square box Chevy truck and dropping
in fuel inj and OD tranny. None of this modern crap for me."The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson