Outlaw 2200 Monoblock Amps

Strong BadStrong Bad Posts: 4,251
I finally had a chance to give the Outlaws a full workout after my Carver m1.5t amp died (mentioned in a previous thread). For the receiver, i'm running a Denon AVR-X4500H, which after purchasing I learned they can only handle speakers down to 6ohms (I missed this part when researching). Since i'm running the Polk LSi25's, I needed something to handle them. After researching my options, I landed up with the Outlaw 2200's and oh my are these things impressive!

I took advantage of the 3 amp deal for $800. I'm still trying to figure out how they can afford to sell these at this price. The amps are powering the LCR channels (LSi25 and LSiM704c) by running from the preamp outs on the Denon. I decided to try adding in the Carver Sonic Hologram Generator to the LR mains. I like the extra dimension and openness it adds.

YES, these Outlaw amps crush anything I throw at them and never seem to run out of juice or break a sweat. Thankfully, they have their own dedicated 20amp circuit to pull from. Sounds quality, simply fantastic! I could not be more pleased! Looks and build quality are spot on. They were heavier than I thought they'd be. They only have a single light on the front indicating they are powered on. Other than that, pretty plain unassuming front and to me...i'm glad they hide away in the dimly lit room when watching movies.

The 4 surround channels are still served up from the Denon, which is more than capable to handle them.

The Outlaws are an absolute winner and total best bang for the buck! If your Surround Receiver is just not quite up to snuff with pushing the LCR channels in your home theater, I highly suggest giving the Outlaws a hard look.

Outlaws 2200's are stacked 3 high, bottom right next to the Denon receiver.
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No excuses!

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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 16,339
    Very nice 👍 set up you have there.
  • jeremymarcinkojeremymarcinko Posts: 3,561
    Looks great! Outlaw makes a really nice product. Enjoy!
    Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
  • mantismantis Posts: 15,903
    edited April 2
    Whenever I see the LSI's I start to miss them. For the time and what they are they where awesome speakers. The LSI25's are even better tuned and sounding then the LSI15's IMO as I always wanted to upgrade to the 25s after hearing them in a few different rooms and systems I installed.
    Excellent price on those amps. I love the form factor as well.
    Sweet setup and I suggest removing the stickers on the Denon, with them on looks like they should be on a showroom floor.
    I suggest removing the Carver piece. I don't see any reason to use it. Fooling around is fun and adding artificial depth can I guess be entertaining but I would much rather run pure then with it in line.
    Isn't that piece from like the 80s? It's like a DSP analog style.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 5,246
    F1nut wrote: »
    John, you can take the features sticker off the front of the AVR, it won't void the warranty.

    I knew someone that left the Sony sticker on their TV screen for years. :o

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  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 2,291
    Viking64 wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    John, you can take the features sticker off the front of the AVR, it won't void the warranty.

    I knew someone that left the Sony sticker on their TV screen for years. :o

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    WOW a old Sony bubble, made in San Diego
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk LsiM 705
    Center: Polk LSiM 704C
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
    Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • Strong BadStrong Bad Posts: 4,251
    F1nut wrote: »
    John, you can take the features sticker off the front of the AVR, it won't void the warranty.

    It adds resale value, so it stays!

    mantis wrote: »
    I suggest removing the Carver piece. I don't see any reason to use it. Fooling around is fun and adding artificial depth can I guess be entertaining but I would much rather run pure then with it in line.
    Isn't that piece from like the 80s? It's like a DSP analog style.

    Mantis,

    Yes it is from the 80's. It was Carver's version of SDA. Carver did electronically what Polk did acoustically with the side by side drivers. Not quite as effective as Polk's SDA. There's a button on front to Enable/Disable, so you can do quick comparisons. It does work and I quite like what it adds to the front stage. There's also a Normal mode and a Theoretical mode that adds too much effect for my liking, so it stays in Normal.

    No excuses!
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,510
    By the time you sell it the retail value will be very little....just saying.
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  • Strong BadStrong Bad Posts: 4,251
    F1nut wrote: »
    By the time you sell it the retail value will be very little....just saying.

    I was kidding with that comment. My last receiver was 11 years old and the only reason I replaced it was due to it dying. This current one will be the same...till death do us part,

    No excuses!
  • WillowWillow Posts: 10,073
    I keep my speakers in the their boxes.

    Those outlaws are nice little amps. I bought mine off Cathy and I quite enjoyed them until I moved on.
    2Ch- B&W 703, SVS PB10 NSD, Marantz NR1607, Parasound 1500a, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon (Yellow) with Acrylic platter, Pro-Ject phono pre, MIT AVT 2 speaker cables, MIT AVT 1 and AVT 2 ICs, XLO Jumpers, Signal Dig Coax, Signal Cable Magic Power Cables x3, Samsung 55JS7000, Harmony 1100, Sony BDP-S6200, Marantz DV-4200 (as Transport), Cambridge Audio DAC Magic100, Monster 3600MKII, Android Mi Box3 and Apple TV. - Pool /Gazebo Yamaha RX-A1010, Polk Patio 25x4, Rotel RDV 1045 (as CDP) MIT AVT3 ICs - Work - Spotify Premium or Neutron App to my FiiO Kunlun into my Grado SR125e

  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,429
    edited April 5
    Willow wrote: »
    I keep my speakers in the their boxes.
    They must be hard to hear well🤪😊

    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, Dish Rcvr, Xbox, Phillips CD chgr

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside* & out
    *soldered

    LR: tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; M&T - 981
    CC: Rotel RB985 -> tri-amped CSi A6
    5 Audio Pro Subs: 1 B1.39: an Evidence at each corner
    Surrounds: Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
  • WillowWillow Posts: 10,073
    gp4jesus wrote: »
    Willow wrote: »
    I keep my speakers in the their boxes.
    They must be hard to hear well🤪😊

    I do it for resale. Previously purchased speakers new in box.
    2Ch- B&W 703, SVS PB10 NSD, Marantz NR1607, Parasound 1500a, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon (Yellow) with Acrylic platter, Pro-Ject phono pre, MIT AVT 2 speaker cables, MIT AVT 1 and AVT 2 ICs, XLO Jumpers, Signal Dig Coax, Signal Cable Magic Power Cables x3, Samsung 55JS7000, Harmony 1100, Sony BDP-S6200, Marantz DV-4200 (as Transport), Cambridge Audio DAC Magic100, Monster 3600MKII, Android Mi Box3 and Apple TV. - Pool /Gazebo Yamaha RX-A1010, Polk Patio 25x4, Rotel RDV 1045 (as CDP) MIT AVT3 ICs - Work - Spotify Premium or Neutron App to my FiiO Kunlun into my Grado SR125e

  • TheheadsnTheheadsn Posts: 409
    very cool, glad you like them. I've had my center stage powered with the 2200's for a little over a year and still love them. Well worth the money for sure.
    Home Theater Setup
    • Receiver - Onkyo TX-RZ1100
    • Mains - Polk RTi A9's
    • External Amps - Outlaw 2200 Monoblocks for L/R/C
    • Center - Polk CSiA6
    • Side Surrounds - Polk FXiA6's
    • Atmos - 4 Polk 80F/X RT's
    • Sub - SVS PC-4000
    • T.V. - LG OLED65C7P

  • Strong BadStrong Bad Posts: 4,251
    Theheadsn wrote: »
    very cool, glad you like them. I've had my center stage powered with the 2200's for a little over a year and still love them. Well worth the money for sure.

    I'm going back and rewatching a lot of movies and am simply loving what these 2200's have done to awaken my system. Worth every penny!


    No excuses!
  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,429
    edited April 11
    Strong Bad wrote: »
    Theheadsn wrote: »
    very cool, glad you like them. I've had my center stage powered with the 2200's for a little over a year and still love them. Well worth the money for sure.

    I'm going back and rewatching a lot of movies and am simply loving what these 2200's have done to awaken my system. Worth every penny!
    Not much in this game compares to dedicated amps driving the various channels😊
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, Dish Rcvr, Xbox, Phillips CD chgr

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside* & out
    *soldered

    LR: tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; M&T - 981
    CC: Rotel RB985 -> tri-amped CSi A6
    5 Audio Pro Subs: 1 B1.39: an Evidence at each corner
    Surrounds: Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
  • TheheadsnTheheadsn Posts: 409
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    My modest setup in my living room. Make my own "custom" (lol) rack. Actually works pretty well. I'm about at my limit with this rack
    Home Theater Setup
    • Receiver - Onkyo TX-RZ1100
    • Mains - Polk RTi A9's
    • External Amps - Outlaw 2200 Monoblocks for L/R/C
    • Center - Polk CSiA6
    • Side Surrounds - Polk FXiA6's
    • Atmos - 4 Polk 80F/X RT's
    • Sub - SVS PC-4000
    • T.V. - LG OLED65C7P

  • teekay0007teekay0007 Posts: 2,221
    edited April 24
  • DaveHoDaveHo Posts: 2,617
    How many receivers have you fried with that set-up? Unless there's some forced air cooling that's not obvious, way too little ventilation.
  • TheheadsnTheheadsn Posts: 409
    Surprisingly there's hardly any heat that comes out. Monoblocks don't put off much heat at all, the receiver especially now that all the heavy lifting is done by the external amps doesn't get very how either. everything is open minus the front door cover, all shelf's are ventilated as well. It seems the PS4 tends to put off the most heat. I dont run everything full bore for hours on end, so I've never had an issue. I also dont like stacking everything at floor level underneath a television like most people.
    Home Theater Setup
    • Receiver - Onkyo TX-RZ1100
    • Mains - Polk RTi A9's
    • External Amps - Outlaw 2200 Monoblocks for L/R/C
    • Center - Polk CSiA6
    • Side Surrounds - Polk FXiA6's
    • Atmos - 4 Polk 80F/X RT's
    • Sub - SVS PC-4000
    • T.V. - LG OLED65C7P

  • TheheadsnTheheadsn Posts: 409
    edited April 26
    Also should bring up there there is ventilation at the top of the build out itself. So things aren't just stuffed into a closed space and left there. I like to condense things if I can, but I dont like burning them out. Normally I would get a larger rack, but got this one for free so figured Id make some use out of it
    Home Theater Setup
    • Receiver - Onkyo TX-RZ1100
    • Mains - Polk RTi A9's
    • External Amps - Outlaw 2200 Monoblocks for L/R/C
    • Center - Polk CSiA6
    • Side Surrounds - Polk FXiA6's
    • Atmos - 4 Polk 80F/X RT's
    • Sub - SVS PC-4000
    • T.V. - LG OLED65C7P

  • mpitogompitogo Posts: 441
    Strong Bad wrote: »
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    Beautiful setup.

    I have a pair... maybe I should dig it out from under covers and put it in my 9 year old daughter’s pink bedroom as an upgrade from her Amazon Echo...so I can see and hear them again! o:)
    Living Room Music-2.0 Polk Legend L800 | McIntosh C70 | McIntosh MA5200 (Treble) | McIntosh MC452 (Bass) | Sublimeacoustic K231 Active xover | Denon DP-2500A | Marantz HD-CD1 | Denafrips Aries II | Amazon Music Ultra HD via iPad Pro
    Family Room Home Theater-7.2.2 (Atmos) Polk LSiM 707, 706c, Dual DSW microPRO 3000, LSiM 702 F/X [x4], RC65i | Marantz SR7009 | Marantz PM-10 [FL/FR] | Marantz SA-10 | Sony UBP-X800 4K | Xbox One S 4K | AppleTV 4K | HTPC | Sony 75” XBR X850D 4K
    Office Home Theater-5.1 Polk RT55, CS400, PSW450, f/x 500 | Onkyo TX-SR705 | AppleTV | Samsung 55”
    Office Music-2.0 KEF Q100 | Sansui AU-6900 | Topping DX7s | Sansui FR-1080
    Office Music 2-2.0 Klipsch RP-600M | Topping DX7s (BAL out) | PASS ACA (kit) Class A balanced monoblocks
    Master Bedroom Music-2.0 Totem Hawk | Rotel RA-1570
    Patio Music-2.0 Polk Atrium8 | AMC 2445 bridged
    Airplay zones: Family Room (HDMI), Family Room SA-10 (optical), Master Bedroom (Optical), Office (HDMI), Office DX7s (optical), Living Room Ares (Optical), SR7009 (AVR direct) and Patio (analog). Apple Music multi-stream to any, combo or all.
    Spares: Polk LSi25, LSiC, CS300, 4pr T15, Martin Logan Motion 40, 50xt, Dynamo 500, Rotel RB-1590, Denon AVR-4802R, Onkyo DX-C540, DVP-S500D, PS HX-500,
    Maintenance: Pro-Ject VC-S Record Cleaning Machine
  • bmsbms Posts: 163
    I have been running the Outlaw 2200’s on my front stage for some time now, and I agree - they do a great job, and my surround channels are definitely louder, as well.
    bms
    Family Room:
    Onkyo TX-RZ920
    Outlaw 2200 monoblock amps x 3
    Sony UBP-X700
    Vizio M75-E1
    Polk RTi10's
    Polk CSi5
    Polk RTi6's
    Polk RTi4's
    Dual SVS PB13-Ultra’s
    PC13-Ultra

    Bonus Room:
    Onkyo TX-SR806
    PS3
    Panasonic TC-P42G10
    Polk R50's
    Polk CSM
    Polk R15's
    SVS PB10-ISD

    For sale:
    Onkyo TX-SR603X
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