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neomagus00

why don't you just transfer the old stuff to the new car??

Systems

because that might make sense....

unrealii

Transfering to new car takes more time which I dont have until finals are over.

I had a quick question...my amp only accepts 2-4-5 channels inputs. If I chose to bi-amp the front I have to select 5 channel and use a splitter to split my 2 channels to 4 channels and my sub channel will come directly from the hu. Is this ok to do?

exalted512

Originally posted by unrealii
and use a splitter to split my 2 channels to 4 channels and my sub channel will come directly from the hu. Is this ok to do?

huh?

unrealii

nevermind. The guy at goodguys, I over looked the fact that I can use all 4 channels from the hu and send those all to the front.

unrealii

ok, ok...listen to this. I think I may have figured out a good combination. Let me know if this sounds stupid or not.

It was suggested to bi-amp the fronts, but I lose my rears. However, if I were to power ALL the speakers, 2 channels of amplified power will go to the front and 2 channels to the rear. The front would be connected to the crossovers which would feed the front tweeter and front speaker. Now I just throught, what if the midrange signal from that front crossover goes to the rear, and now I can send an dedicated amplified channel to each of the midranges on the front.

Benefits:
-all speakers in all locations are working for me
-I almost get "bi-amp" on the front

Cons:
-time alignment feature on the hu gets thrown off??

neomagus00

that would be sweet, but you're losing an xover on the mids. depending on how things are hooked up, you're either giving them a lowpass or a highpass xover, and they really need both.

why run rears?

unrealii

Originally posted by neomagus00
that would be sweet, but you're losing an xover on the mids. depending on how things are hooked up, you're either giving them a lowpass or a highpass xover, and they really need both.

why run rears?

The head unit has a parametric equalizer. I dont know if that can make up for that or not.

About the rears, I dont know, I'm just stubborn about it. Maybe I guess I can try it without the rears and see how I like it.

MacLeod

Try it without the rears for a while. It will be wierd at first but once you get used to it Ill bet you start hearing a lot more detail out of your system. The reason that is, is when you have the same sounds coming at you from several different distances it can smear the detail and you can miss a lot. Trust us, there is a reason virtually ALL SQ competitors run no rear speakers. If you just have your heart set on rears then thats fine. Its not a bad thing its just not the best thing.

neomagus00

eh, there's no reason not to try it without the rears for a while. and the para-eq won't help here. well, it could if it's way cool and you can equalize diff't channels separately, but that's the only case.

unrealii

Alrite, I'll give it a shot. I've got 3 pairs of old school DB speakers on my way, 6.5" for the front, and 5.25", 6.5" for the rears because nissan used both sizes for the rears and I didn't have time to check which one mine was. Oh well....speakers should be here by friday. I just need to grab some wire, and a pac swix steering wheel controler, then 2 weeks from now, this system goes in:)

exalted512

sounds good:D
post pics
-Cody

unrealii

Minor update. I returned the eclipse. I needed either mp3 (which it doesn't have), cd changer ($300), or sateliate radio (not available). So now my seach for a head unit continues. I'm starting to look towards pioneer premier, more specifically, the 860 model. I am also considering the eclipse 5444, but doesn't offer as much value as the pioneer does...so we'll see.:)

exalted512

i like my pioneer, either way you cant go wrong
-Cody

MacLeod

I dont like Eclipse very much. They are fine head units and all but are ugly as homemade sin!!!

Alpine is my head unit of choice. I think they look awesome and have great features.

Pioneer is also a great unit, probably my 2nd favorite.

Clarion pulls up the rear with my 3rd favorite. Good looking and good performance at about the same price.

But honestly, none of the major names will be bad choices. Kenwood and even Panasonics new units are fine. JVC and Sony are lagging behind these days in quality and Id stay away from the Dual and Audiobahn stuff altogehter. I have no reason why, just a gut feeling.

unrealii

I decided to go with the eclipse. I have a deposit on a cd8454. 10 more days, finals are over then it is time....:D

MacLeod

The Elcpise will be fine. Im not that big a fan because Im not fond of their design but they do make good performing equipment. I especially like their amps. Good clean power and at a reasonable price too. 130x2 for $300 or 85x4 for $400 aint shabby especially with .004% THD and 105 db SNR ratings!

exalted512

i want a new deck, im tired of this one already...lol
even though i havent even gone through everything on this one yet...
i just need to be rich and have 20 different cars with 20 different systems...
yeah...thats what i need to do...
pretty simple...now all i need is a few million dollars...
*looks in between the cushions*
-Cody

unrealii

HAHA, yeah I wish I was rich. I would have paid someone to install my system instead of patiently waiting until I'm free. I ended up going over my budget for the hu, but that doesn't matter because I'm sure this will keep me happy for a long time. I'm also learning from my friend's mistake, he bought a $175 pioneer and less than a year later, he's ready to upgrade to the pioneer 8600. If you add up the costs of those two head units, thats more than what I paid for mine.

I liked the eclipse better than the alpine or pioneer. I listened to all three, but at some frequencies where the sound levels off, eclipse kept on going. One thing about the pioneer is that it did not scroll through the entire music cd text. I dont know if that was a setting which wasn't activated on this sound board or if that is how pioneer does it. Another plus is 3 year warranty versus the 2 or 1 years the others had. Lastly, the eclipse's screen seemed to line up very well with my factory hu lcd, so I can strip the behind of my factory face and do an installation similar to this: http://maxima.cardomain.com/memberpage/407837/6


BTW: I have a set of used 6.5 DX series midranges that I do not need. I ended up buying the DX's, then found brand new DB6510's, so I'm going to use those. If someone wants the DX's, PM me.

unrealii

Anyone know how to fix these?

http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18913

unrealii

All the parts are ready to go I tested the head unit and all my speakers today. The two things which are scaring me the most are running speaker wire through the doors, and making a bracket so that I can mount my hu like I mentioned in the link above.

Also, I was wondering is it worth running the External Bass Control knob? On my previous car it made sense since the amp was running off the factory hu. Now that I have an aftermarket hu, is the EBC really needed?

exalted512

i dont use any type of bass knob...it makes it sound horrible IMO
-Cody

unrealii

Thanks for the help. The new system is in and sounds good. I still need bazillions settings that I need to tweak.