What happened to Derek (DSkip)?

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  • CoolJazzCoolJazz Posts: 547
    GotTheBoot wrote: »
    This is another sizeable loss for this community. Sad.

    CJ (Formerly)

    I am restored. Just in time to witness all the smoking, twisted leftover rubble. Argh!

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  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 14,287
    I think it's safe to say that we all agree on that. No deletion of posts, unless Polk decides said post's fate.

    Tom
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  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 4,149
    Deleting of all of one's posts, especially of this magnitude is the ultimate kamikaze move.
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 6,597
    la2vegas wrote: »
    Deleting of all of one's posts, especially of this magnitude is the ultimate kamikaze move.

    A great wealth of discussion lost to the ether.
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  • gudnoyezgudnoyez Posts: 7,265
    edited December 2019
    Wow sorry to hear this, I cant recall a time Skip promoted his speaker line not (new) ones in a thread maybe I'm wrong but cant recall any. Sure demos and used ones yes just like many others do. Myself and a lot of other people have bought items from Skip before as a way to show appreciation to a fellow member that belongs to what I thought was a tight knit community. I wish Skip all the best and hope to visit the Audio Thesis room at Apoxona this year. Continued success is what I wish for Audio Thesis.
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  • indyhawgindyhawg Posts: 1,434
    I really hate seeing Skip leave. I received a lot of great advice from him on audio and taking my system to the next level. I cam respect his decision to leave, but he will be missed.
  • I see him post on Agon from time to time.
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  • mark090852mark090852 Posts: 977
    edited December 2019
    Derek is a gentleman and an audio scholar. I will miss his insight here in this forum.
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  • Upstatemax wrote: »
    kharp1 wrote: »
    Those of us who stay in contact with Skip knew the end was coming. There are a couple of folks here that consistently went out of their way to attack him of late. They were instrumental in pushing things to this degree. They know who they are. I, personally, won't forget you. I applaud his decision and stand by it, as well as him.

    Many of us are in contact with Skip outside of this forum, and, that won't change. Word of his gatherings will be made available, and, he's still a text, or call, away. He is passionate about the products he represents, and, his love of finding the right gear for your particular needs is still is driving passion. He's gone from here, but, not from our lives.

    If you’re friends with him, I understand your desire to defend him.

    But he made a childish choice for an adult decision. He went full blown “take my football and go home”.

    Who cares if a few people gave have him some grief?!

    It’s the internet!

    I seriously doubt anyone on this forum had ANY ill intentions for Derek.

    I’ve faced A LOT of criticism throughout my career, if I acted this way I would be sitting in an unemployment line. I learned early on in my career to take my criticism more seriously than my praise. It’s simply a learning opportunity.

    In my view, the only one losing in this situation is Derek.

    It’s a shame.

    That's the problem. People think just because they have dealt with the same type of abuse that it's okay to pass it onto others.

    No one here has pushed me in any form or fashion, partly due to not giving them a reason to. At the end of the day we should have friendly arguments but the berating and belittling shouldn't happen.
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  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 5,135
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Here's an idea, let's all just respectfully accept Skip's decision without casting judgement or speculating on his motives and intent.
    Exactly.
  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 14,287
    Anyone ever hear of circular discussions?

    This will go on endlessly with no resolution. Bad decisions were made. Bad reactions were made.

    Time to end this discussion and close down this thread. Zero good will come from here on out either constructively or otherwise.

    Tom
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  • UpstatemaxUpstatemax Posts: 2,482
    kharp1 wrote: »
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    kharp1 wrote: »
    Those of us who stay in contact with Skip knew the end was coming. There are a couple of folks here that consistently went out of their way to attack him of late. They were instrumental in pushing things to this degree. They know who they are. I, personally, won't forget you. I applaud his decision and stand by it, as well as him.

    Many of us are in contact with Skip outside of this forum, and, that won't change. Word of his gatherings will be made available, and, he's still a text, or call, away. He is passionate about the products he represents, and, his love of finding the right gear for your particular needs is still is driving passion. He's gone from here, but, not from our lives.

    If you’re friends with him, I understand your desire to defend him.

    But he made a childish choice for an adult decision. He went full blown “take my football and go home”.

    Who cares if a few people gave have him some grief?!

    It’s the internet!

    I seriously doubt anyone on this forum had ANY ill intentions for Derek.

    I’ve faced A LOT of criticism throughout my career, if I acted this way I would be sitting in an unemployment line. I learned early on in my career to take my criticism more seriously than my praise. It’s simply a learning opportunity.

    In my view, the only one losing in this situation is Derek.

    It’s a shame.

    You speak with authority that of which you know nothing. The very end, after the decision was already made, was the part that was pushed by a couple of disgruntled members. The main reason that this happened was a business decision on Skips part. There was no acrimony between Skip and Polk. The decision to remove previous post, as difficult as it was, was a business decision. As most of us know his business has grown substantially over the last couple of years, having an international profile. Perhaps, some of the stuff posted years ago aren't reflective of him, or his business, now. While struggling with various business decisions, there were folks here that wanted him banned...as misguided as that was. He saw that as the right timing to make a new start. The grief giving was just the icing on the cake. The Skip I know has weathered much tougher situations. From the business perspective it was good timing. Before you start making claims and spewing shallow minded opinions try getting some facts. Such is life in the internet age.

    There is NEVER a sound business choice that burns bridges.

    Period.

    This was emotional, not business.
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  • halenhalen Posts: 605
    I think everyone here that knows Skip has his contact information. Friendship lasts beyond this forum.

    However, I do take issue with one thing. Let me find it.

    halen
  • ZLTFULZLTFUL Posts: 5,285
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    kharp1 wrote: »
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    kharp1 wrote: »
    Those of us who stay in contact with Skip knew the end was coming. There are a couple of folks here that consistently went out of their way to attack him of late. They were instrumental in pushing things to this degree. They know who they are. I, personally, won't forget you. I applaud his decision and stand by it, as well as him.

    Many of us are in contact with Skip outside of this forum, and, that won't change. Word of his gatherings will be made available, and, he's still a text, or call, away. He is passionate about the products he represents, and, his love of finding the right gear for your particular needs is still is driving passion. He's gone from here, but, not from our lives.

    If you’re friends with him, I understand your desire to defend him.

    But he made a childish choice for an adult decision. He went full blown “take my football and go home”.

    Who cares if a few people gave have him some grief?!

    It’s the internet!

    I seriously doubt anyone on this forum had ANY ill intentions for Derek.

    I’ve faced A LOT of criticism throughout my career, if I acted this way I would be sitting in an unemployment line. I learned early on in my career to take my criticism more seriously than my praise. It’s simply a learning opportunity.

    In my view, the only one losing in this situation is Derek.

    It’s a shame.

    You speak with authority that of which you know nothing. The very end, after the decision was already made, was the part that was pushed by a couple of disgruntled members. The main reason that this happened was a business decision on Skips part. There was no acrimony between Skip and Polk. The decision to remove previous post, as difficult as it was, was a business decision. As most of us know his business has grown substantially over the last couple of years, having an international profile. Perhaps, some of the stuff posted years ago aren't reflective of him, or his business, now. While struggling with various business decisions, there were folks here that wanted him banned...as misguided as that was. He saw that as the right timing to make a new start. The grief giving was just the icing on the cake. The Skip I know has weathered much tougher situations. From the business perspective it was good timing. Before you start making claims and spewing shallow minded opinions try getting some facts. Such is life in the internet age.

    There is NEVER a sound business choice that burns bridges.

    Period.

    This was emotional, not business.

    I agree with Kerry. You literally have zero idea of what you speak. While Skip did make a choice, it was less emotionally driven than it seems. And far more business motivated than you are even remotely aware.
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  • halenhalen Posts: 605
    We politely asked him to not promote other speaker brands on the forum anymore. AVRs were fine.

    Obviously we cannot show the full conversation since all of his posts were deleted but below is the email reply from him we can reference.

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    Here is what I was looking for.

    You have much to learn along your journey. What you did here is unprofessional.

    halen
  • UpstatemaxUpstatemax Posts: 2,482
    ZLTFUL wrote: »

    I agree with Kerry. You literally have zero idea of what you speak. While Skip did make a choice, it was less emotionally driven than it seems. And far more business motivated than you are even remotely aware.

    I know EXACTLY of what I speak.

    Like it or not he acted like a child. I won’t judge him forever for it because I’m also a human that has done the same.

    But the most impactful parts of my life came when someone called me out on something similar.

    There are MANY ways you can respond to feedback. He has responded in the worst possible way.

    Deal with that in what ever way you choose.
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  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 4,149
    halen wrote: »
    NSJ. Piece of Sh i t

    Yeah you.

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 43,984
    STOP
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  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 4,149
    F1nut wrote: »
    STOP

    You go first.
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,463
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    ZLTFUL wrote: »

    I agree with Kerry. You literally have zero idea of what you speak. While Skip did make a choice, it was less emotionally driven than it seems. And far more business motivated than you are even remotely aware.

    I know EXACTLY of what I speak.

    Like it or not he acted like a child. I won’t judge him forever for it because I’m also a human that has done the same.

    But the most impactful parts of my life came when someone called me out on something similar.

    There are MANY ways you can respond to feedback. He has responded in the worst possible way.

    Deal with that in what ever way you choose.

    Obviously you don't. None of this was driven by emotions, or, someone calling him out for anything. You don't know all the facts behind what was a long, agonizing decision for him. It was his decision and I respect that. No need to try to muck up his name or reputation because you disagree with his decision. Perhaps you could reach out to him and avail yourself of what all went in to the decision. There is no sense in calling him "out" for something you have no background info on. At least be man enough to not do that. I don't like it, but, I understand and respect it. I'll leave it at that.
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 6,597
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    ZLTFUL wrote: »

    I agree with Kerry. You literally have zero idea of what you speak. While Skip did make a choice, it was less emotionally driven than it seems. And far more business motivated than you are even remotely aware.

    I know EXACTLY of what I speak.

    Like it or not he acted like a child. I won’t judge him forever for it because I’m also a human that has done the same.

    But the most impactful parts of my life came when someone called me out on something similar.

    There are MANY ways you can respond to feedback. He has responded in the worst possible way.

    Deal with that in what ever way you choose.

    I suppose you KNOW this because Skip told you so?
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,732
    We politely asked him to not promote other speaker brands on the forum anymore. AVRs were fine.

    I'm still laughing at the absurdity of the idea that Skip ever "promoted an AVR".
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