Tube rig finally has the right speakers!

ALL212
ALL212 Posts: 1,577
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Long story but “my” speakers finally arrived.
Blumenstein Orca’s run from a Bottlehead Stereomour. Source is Roon to a bridge into a Schiit Bifrost.


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Aaron
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,919
    Nice :)

    but...

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    I... still... see... Altecs... in your future.
    big Altecs...

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    B)
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  • maxward
    maxward Posts: 1,584
    The speakers look good in bamboo. The stands tell me there are no cats in the house, or at least in the room. I like the little spice jars full of parts.
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  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    Nice looking rig! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS 1.2tl's, Cary SLP-05 Pre with ultimate upgrade,McIntosh MCD301 CD/SACD player, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Cambridge 851N streamer, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Silnote Morpheus Ref2, Series2 Digital Cables, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Series2 XLR's, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, Northstar Designs Intenso DAC, Antique Sound Labs AV8 Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    Loos very nice Aaron! Enjoy all that tubey goodness!
    Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
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  • TEAforONE
    TEAforONE Posts: 1,026
    Very,very nice!
    See my profile for list of gear.
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  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
    Where are the subs? ;)
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  • ALL212
    ALL212 Posts: 1,577
    I hate subs but that might end up being the winter project
    Aaron
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,151
    Subs will not be your friend with that system.

    Nice rig.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,919
    subs R OK.
    (i.e., I drank the sub kool-aid)


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  • ALL212
    ALL212 Posts: 1,577
    Need something small...tidy. I don’t want a paint peeler. If it’ll get into the 30’s it’ll be good.
    Aaron
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  • ALL212
    ALL212 Posts: 1,577
    maxward wrote: »
    The speakers look good in bamboo. The stands tell me there are no cats in the house, or at least in the room. I like the little spice jars full of parts.

    Thanks! The jars have small capacitors of various colors from rebuilds.

    No cats.
    Aaron
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,919
    ALL212 wrote: »
    maxward wrote: »
    The speakers look good in bamboo. The stands tell me there are no cats in the house, or at least in the room. I like the little spice jars full of parts.

    Thanks! The jars have small capacitors of various colors from rebuilds.

    That's like a dentist saving teeth...

    B)
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  • FestYboy
    FestYboy Posts: 3,861
    ALL212 wrote: »
    Need something small...tidy. I don’t want a paint peeler. If it’ll get into the 30’s it’ll be good.

    Small like this: https://youtu.be/ew4aED-K5og

    or this: https://youtu.be/--n9zgZy2Ec
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,151
    What you need is a powerful and accurate mid-bass module to enhance your sonic signature. Going straight to a sub will introduce a dip in the slope that you will never overcome or dial in. IMO/IME. FWIW. 40-45 and above...

    I think I'll slide out now.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • ALL212
    ALL212 Posts: 1,577
    Good idea! I’ve not measured these yet but they should be good to about 100 hz.
    Aaron
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,595
    edited December 2019
    Shoooot Aaron get the bigin..... 18" super stroke double dipped plasticoated aluminized hexametimorphed 200000 gig a watt 7000 amp current .........

    Mini



    The basement needs a new coat of paint anaways....
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,919
    There's always...

    the Bucket Sub.

    There are many variations (just as there are many buckets) -- here's a handy one.
    https://www.transcendentsound.com/bucket-sub.html

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,919
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Shoooot Aaron get the bigin..... 18" super stroke double dipped plasticoated aluminized hexametimorphed 200000 gig a watt 7000 amp current .........

    Mini



    The basement needs a new coat of paint anaways....

    Well... there's always... El Pipe-O, too.

    B)

    http://www.firstwatt.com/pdf/art_elpipeo.pdf

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    Just brainstorming here, @ALL212 -- there are no wrong answers.

    :*
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,535
    Using a subwoofer in that tube driven system would be an affront to the tube gods. Want lower bass get bigger speakers. :)
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,919
    Emlyn wrote: »
    Using a subwoofer in that tube driven system would be an affront to the tube gods. Want lower bass get bigger speakers. :)

    FWIW, the Altecs don't seem to mind that they get by with a little help from their friends.

    38047648301_210f62724a_h.jpgDSC_9751 (2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Emlyn wrote: »
    Using a subwoofer in that tube driven system would be an affront to the tube gods. Want lower bass get bigger speakers. :)

    FWIW, the Altecs don't seem to mind that they get by with a little help from their friends.

    38047648301_210f62724a_h.jpgDSC_9751 (2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    Is this some of your handy work Mark?

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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,595
    Mike Reeter wrote: »
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Emlyn wrote: »
    Using a subwoofer in that tube driven system would be an affront to the tube gods. Want lower bass get bigger speakers. :)

    FWIW, the Altecs don't seem to mind that they get by with a little help from their friends.

    38047648301_210f62724a_h.jpgDSC_9751 (2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    Is this some of your handy work Mark?

    IIRC he bought it from a vendor. It was a one-off prototype unit......
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • ALL212
    ALL212 Posts: 1,577
    Bajeebus!!! These things hardly weigh in at 5 lbs each!! I’m a thinking there has to be a small margin of WAF involved.

    And you are correct about the tube subs. I showed that picture to the amp and it turned away in shame... :'(
    Aaron
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,919
    edited December 2019
    Mike Reeter wrote: »
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Emlyn wrote: »
    Using a subwoofer in that tube driven system would be an affront to the tube gods. Want lower bass get bigger speakers. :)

    FWIW, the Altecs don't seem to mind that they get by with a little help from their friends.

    38047648301_210f62724a_h.jpgDSC_9751 (2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    Is this some of your handy work Mark?

    Not exactly, no... but it was/is a prototype. Not sure it ever went into production. I don't think I can disclose its precise provenance :p I will say that it has a couple of fairly beefy looking 15 inch, Italian-made DVC drivers, one in the front and one in the bottom (presumably a push-pull kind of thing). It was meant to have on-board amplification, XO and DSP, but I had to roll my own for it (well... PartsExpress did the heavy lifting, I just spent some $). It's a pretty capable piece of hardware (also a pretty beefy one) -- and the price was right B)


    34211237723_eea597bcec_o.jpgDSC_8306 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    The woofer's not off-center; it's just mounted pretty deep in the cabinet.
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    ...

    IIRC he bought it from a vendor. It was a one-off prototype unit......

    I got it from the engineer who did the amp/XO/DSP package for it -- I'm guessing he wasn't in a position to sell it, but he could, apparently, give it away. My investment was some of my son-in-law's time and effort (and mine) to lug it upstairs (it weighs about 150 lbs) and a plate amp/DSP from PE.

    sorry for the diversion @ALL212 -- you know how I am :/




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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited December 2019


    I got it from the engineer who did the amp/XO/DSP package for it -- I'm guessing he wasn't in a position to sell it, but he could, apparently, give it away. My investment was some of my son-in-law's time and effort (and mine) to lug it upstairs (it weighs about 150 lbs) and a plate amp/DSP from PE.

    sorry for the diversion @ALL212 -- you know how I am :/



    Sweet, looks like a heck of a Sub/Subs.

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  • ALL212
    ALL212 Posts: 1,577
    Stop apologizing!!! This is all good stuff.
    Aaron
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,148
    Ern! Leave Mark alone!
    I disabled signatures.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,919
    msg wrote: »
    Ern! Leave Mark alone!

    Yeah, me and Britney... cut us some slack, man.
    Wait, that was like... twenty years ago now, wasn't it.

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  • ALL212
    ALL212 Posts: 1,577
    msg wrote: »
    Ern! Leave Mark alone!

    Well... look who finally woke up! Hey Scooot!
    Aaron
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,919
    ALL212 wrote: »
    msg wrote: »
    Ern! Leave Mark alone!

    Well... look who finally woke up! Hey Scooot!

    'e's a busy lad, 'e is...

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