Polymeric Sand

Sorry to repost this, but I just realized that I had posted my question within a thread from 2017.

I bought the TransDeco speaker stands for the 703s. For now, I am using the little rubber isolation pads for the placement of the speaker on the top plate, but later I might add some blue tack to secure it a little better. I would like to add further weight to the base, but preserve the wire management capabilities of the stand. Has anyone ever tried using polymeric sand to fill the posts. It should harden and dry out after a while. I was thinking of inserting a small diameter conduit (e.g. PVC pipe) that exits the top and bottom holes and pouring polymeric sand around it.

Is that a bad idea?

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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,342
    saturn1 wrote: »
    Sorry to repost this, but I just realized that I had posted my question within a thread from 2017.

    I bought the TransDeco speaker stands for the 703s. For now, I am using the little rubber isolation pads for the placement of the speaker on the top plate, but later I might add some blue tack to secure it a little better. I would like to add further weight to the base, but preserve the wire management capabilities of the stand. Has anyone ever tried using polymeric sand to fill the posts. It should harden and dry out after a while. I was thinking of inserting a small diameter conduit (e.g. PVC pipe) that exits the top and bottom holes and pouring polymeric sand around it.

    Is that a bad idea?

    Only if you want to pour the sand out later. Many here use lead shot for adding weight.
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  • civiliancivilian Posts: 299

    Only if you want to pour the sand out later. Many here use lead shot for adding weight.
    Weren't you using some military surplus depleted uranium? :D
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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,095
    Buy a decent sized speaker that doesn’t require a stand, and the question becomes moot. I never understood the idea of little speakers on stands since they use as much room as a full size speaker.
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,710
    They tend to image better.
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,140
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I never understood the idea of little speakers on stands since they use as much room as a full size speaker.

    Some people like to drive enormous SUVs and others like to drive small sports cars.
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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,095
    Clipdat wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I never understood the idea of little speakers on stands since they use as much room as a full size speaker.

    Some people like to drive enormous SUVs and others like to drive small sports cars.

    Okay. What does that have to do with listening to your stereo?
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  • tophatjohnnytophatjohnny Posts: 2,611
    And of course roon size comes to mind. I could never go back to smaller pole riders but both rooms where my rigs are aren't exactly small. If they were my towers would be totally overkill so pole riders it would be and stands as heavy as possible.
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  • saturn1saturn1 Posts: 30
    They are doing OK on the stands without any added weight. The bookshelf speakers are a lot easier to position than the 707s. Those weigh close to 100 lbs. I do see your point Blue Fox, I am trying to figure out a way of positioning the 703s without using the stands. I'll probably have to build some kind of shelf, but I don't have the time right now. My house is a mess of speaker wire and boxes.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,023
    edited September 13
    Clipdat wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I never understood the idea of little speakers on stands since they use as much room as a full size speaker.

    Some people like to drive enormous SUVs and others like to drive small sports cars.
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Clipdat wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I never understood the idea of little speakers on stands since they use as much room as a full size speaker.

    Some people like to drive enormous SUVs and others like to drive small sports cars.

    Okay. What does that have to do with listening to your stereo?


    Easy-peasy. It's hard to bring a big pair of floorstanding speakers home from the dealer in a small sports car. Unless you have a trailer for it.

    B)
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,095
    If your car size determines your home stereo then you have bigger problems than what can fit in your car.
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  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,632
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Buy a decent sized speaker that doesn’t require a stand, and the question becomes moot. I never understood the idea of little speakers on stands since they use as much room as a full size speaker.

    For me, they do take just as much space (In fact, the base of my stands are bigger than my LSis were), but because the stands are thinner than a floor-standing speaker and the speaker on top is smaller, my room feels much more open. They aren't quite as dominating the room. All my floor-standing speakers demanded the attention of the room, whereas standmounts don't seem to stand out (No pun intended B) ) nearly as much. IMO and FWIW :)
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  • WillowWillow Posts: 9,643
    BlueFox wrote: »
    If your car size determines your home stereo then you have bigger problems than what can fit in your car.

    I went on foot to buy mine :o

    Kidding btw
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,342
    Willow wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    If your car size determines your home stereo then you have bigger problems than what can fit in your car.

    I went on foot to buy mine :o

    Kidding btw

    Brought my first set of SRS 1.2TL's home on a bicycle. :D
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  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,350
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Clipdat wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I never understood the idea of little speakers on stands since they use as much room as a full size speaker.

    Some people like to drive enormous SUVs and others like to drive small sports cars.

    Okay. What does that have to do with listening to your stereo?

    Mainly has to do with what I like. I own both, but, prefer the monitors for imaging.
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  • tonyp063tonyp063 Posts: 675
    Brought my first set of SRS 1.2TL's home on a bicycle. :D


    Uphill. In the snow. Both ways.

  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,342
    tonyp063 wrote: »
    Brought my first set of SRS 1.2TL's home on a bicycle. :D


    Uphill. In the snow. Both ways.

    How did you know. :p
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    Saying that it's "too hard" to pursue your dreams is no different than admitting to yourself that you are too lazy to achieve them.

    “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
  • civiliancivilian Posts: 299
    I guess I am the lucky one, I just slid my 2.3's side by side into the back of my excursion, out on to a refrigerator dolly and into the house. Had the set up (in 10 minutes) for the day and then the wife saw them. There were tears but the speakers are still here, the wife too.

    That being said, I do like the idea of some modded LSi9's (they can sound amazing)
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  • OShagOShag Posts: 10
    Sand does work well. I have my Eclipse TD712z Mk1 stands filled with sand. Adds weight and deadens any resonance.
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