Crown XLS 1502 - is it enough to power RTiA9s?

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  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,759
    edited August 2019
    Nightfall wrote: »
    That's it, I'm selling my B&K and getting a Crown.

    Dibs!
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 13,942
    fastz28 wrote: »
    BEFORE i KNEW WHAT i KNEW, i WENT WITH A pRO AMP. nOW i KNOW WHAT i KNOW, AND i GOT A GOOD AUDIOPHILE AMP, AND NO LOOKING BACK ANYMORE

    Do you know how a caps lock key works. :)


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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 5,503
    fastz28 wrote: »
    BEFORE i KNEW WHAT i KNEW, i WENT WITH A pRO AMP. nOW i KNOW WHAT i KNOW, AND i GOT A GOOD AUDIOPHILE AMP, AND NO LOOKING BACK ANYMORE

    Thanks. Now everybody's ears are ringing. :/
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 26,592
    edited August 2019
    BlueFox wrote: »
    fastz28 wrote: »
    BEFORE i KNEW WHAT i KNEW, i WENT WITH A pRO AMP. nOW i KNOW WHAT i KNOW, AND i GOT A GOOD AUDIOPHILE AMP, AND NO LOOKING BACK ANYMORE

    Do you know how a caps lock key works. :)


    He does -- and he's not a believer in absolute polarity.

    ;)
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 5,503
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    fastz28 wrote: »
    BEFORE i KNEW WHAT i KNEW, i WENT WITH A pRO AMP. nOW i KNOW WHAT i KNOW, AND i GOT A GOOD AUDIOPHILE AMP, AND NO LOOKING BACK ANYMORE

    Do you know how a caps lock key works. :)


    He does -- and he's not a believer in absolute polarity.

    ;)

    i AGREE.
  • delkaldelkal Posts: 729
    edited August 2019
    To the OP..........Summing things up a Crown XLS 1502 has more than enough power to run the RTiA9s. It almost doubles down from 8ohms to 4 and it is listed as being able to drive 2 ohm speakers. But as you can see a lot of people here don't like pro amps in general (even though I doubt they even heard your exact model). They all have big bucks "audiophile" systems and think you should too. There is nothing wrong with getting the best eventually and if you continue the hobby you might get there too. But for now you need to put the advice in context. A lot of people here spent more on one speaker cable or power cord than you budgeted for your amp.

    Since the OP's original question seems to have been answered (and the thread has turned into a pissing contest) lets try and help him out.............The Crown XLS1502 sells for $440 shipped on Amazon. What other $440 amplifiers would sound better and have enough power?
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 5,503
    delkal wrote: »
    To the OP..........Summing things up a Crown XLS 1502 as more than enough power to run the RTiA9s. It almost doubles down from 8ohms to 4 and it is listed as being able to drive 2 ohm speakers. But as you can see a lot of people here don't like pro amps in general (even though I doubt they even heard your exact model). They all have big bucks "audiophile" components and think you should too. Since the OP's original question seems to have been answered (and the thread has turned into a pissing contest) lets try and help him out...........

    The Crown XLS1502 sells for $440 shipped on Amazon. What other $440 amplifiers would sound better and have enough power?

    Hey!!! Hey!!! Hey!!! You can't say "pissing" here!!!
  • delkaldelkal Posts: 729
    Viking64 wrote: »
    delkal wrote: »
    To the OP..........Summing things up a Crown XLS 1502 as more than enough power to run the RTiA9s. It almost doubles down from 8ohms to 4 and it is listed as being able to drive 2 ohm speakers. But as you can see a lot of people here don't like pro amps in general (even though I doubt they even heard your exact model). They all have big bucks "audiophile" components and think you should too. Since the OP's original question seems to have been answered (and the thread has turned into a pissing contest) lets try and help him out...........

    The Crown XLS1502 sells for $440 shipped on Amazon. What other $440 amplifiers would sound better and have enough power?

    Hey!!! Hey!!! Hey!!! You can't say "pissing" here!!!

    I was being polite. My original though was this thread turned into something else.

  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 26,592
    edited August 2019
    Viking64 wrote: »
    delkal wrote: »
    To the OP..........Summing things up a Crown XLS 1502 as more than enough power to run the RTiA9s. It almost doubles down from 8ohms to 4 and it is listed as being able to drive 2 ohm speakers. But as you can see a lot of people here don't like pro amps in general (even though I doubt they even heard your exact model). They all have big bucks "audiophile" components and think you should too. Since the OP's original question seems to have been answered (and the thread has turned into a pissing contest) lets try and help him out...........

    The Crown XLS1502 sells for $440 shipped on Amazon. What other $440 amplifiers would sound better and have enough power?

    Hey!!! Hey!!! Hey!!! You can't say "pissing" here!!!

    And that's what you call irony.
    It's like anti-tautology.

    PS I prefer micturition contest. Let me clarify that: not the contest itself (!), but rather the term. :|
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 5,503
    delkal wrote: »
    I was being polite. My original though was this thread turned into something else.

    Does that "something else" include the words "donkey", "canoe", and "mayonnaise"?
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 5,503
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    And that's what you call irony.
    It's like anti-tautology.

    PS I prefer micturition contest. Let me clarify that: not the contest itself (!), but rather the term. :|

    Was that a micturition contest on a rug that "really pulled the room together"?
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 26,592
    Viking64 wrote: »
    delkal wrote: »
    I was being polite. My original though was this thread turned into something else.

    Does that "something else" include the words "donkey", "canoe", and "mayonnaise"?

    or perhaps these guaranteed funny words & concepts?

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    or even these?


  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 5,503
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    or perhaps these guaranteed funny words & concepts?

    or even these?

    I would be remiss in my duties, etc., etc., etc......

  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 6,799
    Okay two actual responses to the question.

    1. Everything in the chain matters: source, cables, preamp, cables, power amp, cables, speakers. I would say that most here would agree that cables are less important than the “big” four, but everything in the chain colors the sound to some extent. There is no neutral anything...
    2. If you think all power amps with the same specs sound the same, then as has been said, why are you asking? Buy what you want and by happy. I think all IPAs with the same ABV and IBUs taste the same, so I say screw that microbrew crap and give me the cheapest s#!t you have! Oh the ingredients are different you say? No matter, I get drunk just the same!


    As for the question above about a comparable amp for $440, no, there is no NEW amp that can compete with the power at that price. That’s why I always say go used. If you’re patient you can get a parasound HCA-1200 or 1500 in good condition for that price. And it won’t sound like nails on a chalkboard...
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  • rooftop59 wrote: »
    Okay two actual responses to the question.

    1. Everything in the chain matters: source, cables, preamp, cables, power amp, cables, speakers. I would say that most here would agree that cables are less important than the “big” four, but everything in the chain colors the sound to some extent. There is no neutral anything...
    2. If you think all power amps with the same specs sound the same, then as has been said, why are you asking? Buy what you want and by happy. I think all IPAs with the same ABV and IBUs taste the same, so I say screw that microbrew crap and give me the cheapest s#!t you have! Oh the ingredients are different you say? No matter, I get drunk just the same!


    As for the question above about a comparable amp for $440, no, there is no NEW amp that can compete with the power at that price. That’s why I always say go used. If you’re patient you can get a parasound HCA-1200 or 1500 in good condition for that price. And it won’t sound like nails on a chalkboard...


    Thanks for the feedback. I’m still at the early stages of this journey.

    If I’m listening to music, source is usually a FLAC or WAV and MP3 (my early days) from my Fiio X1 media player connected to the analog input into the receiver. All my rca cables are amazon basics (because they look nicer than the dollar store ones). I currently don’t have a pre-amp (haven’t looked into if I really need one). From the receiver’s pre-out to the power amp to the speakers.

    Parasound is not easily available in the used market in Toronto, Canada. I usually see Brystons or Rotels but the pricing on these sometimes 15 to 20 yr old units are $800CAD or more. It’s a bit insane.

    Crown 2 series was interesting option since they mentioned that input sensitivity could be changed to .775Vrms but their own site says it’s recommended for PA systems. The power will be there but from what most people say, the sound quality may/will be lacking.

    Currently doing more research on the Emotiva XPA-2 and keeping my eyes on canuckaudiomart and Kijiji. Hopefully something pans out in the near future.
  • rooftop59 wrote: »
    I currently don’t have a pre-amp (haven’t looked into if I really need one).

    Meant to say a dedicated pre-amp outside of my receiver.
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 22,973
    Having read this entire thred, me tinks I be getten dummer and dummer wit evry pust. me stinks its tym to fuggetaboatit ans goes to bed.
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 45,212
    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
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  • What about Anthem a home grown product?

    Thanks. Will add to the list. Seems like there’s more reasonable availability with Anthem.
  • F1nut wrote: »
    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

    Too many options to take a drink, there’s a river, a pond, a trough... probably the reason the horse died of dehydration - too many choices. Analysis paralysis.
  • My friend is encouraging me just to “take the plunge”. If I don’t like it, just resell the gear and move on to the next.

    Good advice but for someone on a budget. Hard to take.
  • What about Anthem a home grown product?

    Thanks. Will add to the list. Seems like there’s more reasonable availability with Anthem.

    Most I saw were 125w per channel. Would that be enough?
  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 3,858
    The quality of the watts far outweighs the quantity of watts.
  • oldrockeroldrocker Posts: 2,354
    Nightfall wrote: »
    That's it, I'm selling my B&K and getting a Crown.

    I got 2 of em, make me an offer.... :D

  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 17,165
    oldrocker wrote: »
    Nightfall wrote: »
    That's it, I'm selling my B&K and getting a Crown.

    I got 2 of em, make me an offer.... :D

    175 for both :)
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  • Geoff4rfcGeoff4rfc Posts: 1,786
    F1nut wrote: »
    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

    Actually you can......you lead the horse to water, then you give him salt!
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  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 9,423
    Is waterboarding on the table or?
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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