Cambridge Audio Azur 851N in the house!

Just picked up this pre off CL for $800! Just over a year old. The guy told me his wife made him get rid ALL of his stereo stuff. Poor idiot... This thing sounds amazing! Considering my next newest component is over 20 years old... Right now I have my laptop hooked to it via Bluetooth. Thanks all for helping me spend my money!

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Home System:
SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
800 Va Dreadnought- Speaker Interconnect
WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
Cambridge Audio Azur 851N - DAC/Streamer
B&K Reference 50 Pre/Pro
B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
Cambridge Audio DVD 99
Sangean HD FM Tuner

Barn system:
SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
Carver C-1 pre
Carver M1.5t
BluDenso - Bluetooth receiver/DAC
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  • tophatjohnnytophatjohnny Posts: 2,121
    edited February 20
    Congrats. I enjoy the heck outta mine. It lives in our bedroom and is a solid performer. Download the Cambridge Connect app on your phone and have some fun. Silver looks cool.
    "if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
    *****************************
  • audioluvr wrote: »
    Right now I have my laptop hooked to it via Bluetooth
    You have not even scratched the surface of what that streamer is capable of. Once you get one of the streaming services going direct to the unit you're going to unlock a whole new world of digital quality. Enjoy!
    Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
    Digital: Sony CDP-CE375 / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
    Harman Kardon HK 3770 > JBL Studio 580 + SVS SB12-NSD or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
    Discogs
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 870
    Ya still trying to figure this thing out...
    Home System:
    SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
    800 Va Dreadnought- Speaker Interconnect
    WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
    Cambridge Audio Azur 851N - DAC/Streamer
    B&K Reference 50 Pre/Pro
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
    Sangean HD FM Tuner

    Barn system:
    SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
    Carver C-1 pre
    Carver M1.5t
    BluDenso - Bluetooth receiver/DAC
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,465
    If you need any help don't be afraid to reach out. Very nice grab!
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 5,174
    @audioluvr nice catch, but not for the "poor dude".
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 5,174
    Oh BTW I am glad Oppo stopped selling Universal players, I may have never thought about Cambridge, they have a nice signature sound from what I can tell by the two pieces that I have.
  • mantismantis Posts: 15,232
    Yes awesome piece. I've used it many many times with many different speakers and it doesn't disappoint in any way.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 870
    edited February 20
    So when I play CD's on it, the display shows 44.1 kHz aptx. Does this mean my transport is a POS? Just curious as that's the same thing it says when playing Tidal in HiFi mode. I haven't upgraded Tidal yet as I thought I'd wait until my "Free Trial" was over first. Plus my WiFi must suck because it sometimes pauses during songs. The guy I bought it from had a couple of Western Digital "My Cloud's" that had all his music files on. I'm trying to figure out how that works... Do I need any special software do this? Sorry for all the newbee questions.
    Home System:
    SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
    800 Va Dreadnought- Speaker Interconnect
    WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
    Cambridge Audio Azur 851N - DAC/Streamer
    B&K Reference 50 Pre/Pro
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
    Sangean HD FM Tuner

    Barn system:
    SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
    Carver C-1 pre
    Carver M1.5t
    BluDenso - Bluetooth receiver/DAC
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 5,143
    Tidal in hifi mode is the same as cd quality.
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; B&K TX4430; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5; LG UP870 4K BDP; NVidia ShieldTV
    ;
    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Parasound HCA-1000A, PSB Imagine B, NHT Super One CI surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo (original), Squeezebox Touch
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 10,548
    I have a Cambridge Audio 840E preamp, and two 840W amps that made my first good stereo. The 840W amps are now in my home theater powering the front speakers for both video, and audio only. The 840E pre is in a box in the garage as a spare. About two months ago my Pass XP-22 preamp broke and I used the 840E for about three weeks until I got the Pass back. It did a great job as a stand in, and sounded great
    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin S1 - X1 power supply
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 870
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    Tidal in hifi mode is the same as cd quality.

    Ah. I just read that in the manual. So where do higher quality recordings come from? The manual says if I am wanting to play higher quality recordings it should be hard wired to the router. That's not happening for a while... I still need to figure out this downloading thing... Boy do I feel dumb...
    Home System:
    SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
    800 Va Dreadnought- Speaker Interconnect
    WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
    Cambridge Audio Azur 851N - DAC/Streamer
    B&K Reference 50 Pre/Pro
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
    Sangean HD FM Tuner

    Barn system:
    SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
    Carver C-1 pre
    Carver M1.5t
    BluDenso - Bluetooth receiver/DAC
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,871
    edited February 20
    audioluvr wrote: »
    Boy do I feel dumb...

    No need to feel dumb, that's a big boy player with a ton of functionality to explore.

    My first suggestion, stop using it with your laptop via Bluetooth.

    Download the Cambridge Connect app on your phone and go about things from there.
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 870
    Just discovered the "Radio" function... Holy crap! 20,000 HD internet radio stations to choose from and most all at the 192kHz level. They sound REALLY good! Very warm.
    Listening to radio while I figure out the app on my phone...
    Home System:
    SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
    800 Va Dreadnought- Speaker Interconnect
    WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
    Cambridge Audio Azur 851N - DAC/Streamer
    B&K Reference 50 Pre/Pro
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
    Sangean HD FM Tuner

    Barn system:
    SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
    Carver C-1 pre
    Carver M1.5t
    BluDenso - Bluetooth receiver/DAC
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 870
    edited February 20
    Ok got the app running. S W E E T ! ! ! Now the CA shows the album cover and track on it's display. This thing is making my Sonata's and Polks really sing!

    Big shout out to @dSkip for the excellent review of this unit that made me jump on this when it just happened to come up for sale right afterwards.
    Home System:
    SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
    800 Va Dreadnought- Speaker Interconnect
    WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
    Cambridge Audio Azur 851N - DAC/Streamer
    B&K Reference 50 Pre/Pro
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
    Sangean HD FM Tuner

    Barn system:
    SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
    Carver C-1 pre
    Carver M1.5t
    BluDenso - Bluetooth receiver/DAC
  • tophatjohnnytophatjohnny Posts: 2,121
    edited February 21
    Lol...remember when!! You will have fun with that
    "if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
    *****************************
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 870
    One limiting thing I see with this that I really liked about the B&K is you can't program the name of inputs. On the B&K you could label them "CD Player" or "Turntable" which was cool. Also there are only 4 presets. 4. Lame. The B&K had 99. BUT the B&K wasn't a streamer so in the closet it goes!

    I'm really digging the free radio streaming. I have local stations saved in the presets.
    Home System:
    SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
    800 Va Dreadnought- Speaker Interconnect
    WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
    Cambridge Audio Azur 851N - DAC/Streamer
    B&K Reference 50 Pre/Pro
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
    Sangean HD FM Tuner

    Barn system:
    SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
    Carver C-1 pre
    Carver M1.5t
    BluDenso - Bluetooth receiver/DAC
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,871
    Try setting the presets via the Cambridge Connect app. I was able to set 20.
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • tophatjohnnytophatjohnny Posts: 2,121
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Try setting the presets via the Cambridge Connect app. I was able to set 20.

    Nice to know. I haven't messed the
    With radio portion since I got it outside of checking to see that it works ..but definitely worth
    trying .
    "if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
    *****************************
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,871
    I may have mis-typed. I believe I meant to say the web interface, not the cambridge app. Just type the IP address assigned to it into a browser and you should see the additional setup options, including the additional presets.

    Then, once they are setup you can control/access them from the cambridge app.
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 870
    edited February 21
    Ya it'll do 20 if you hit the home button and go into presets. I was just looking at the remote. My bad. I thought it was cool that I could find and listen to the rock station in Topeka, KS that I used to listen to decades ago when I was stationed in Ft Riley, KS.
    Home System:
    SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
    800 Va Dreadnought- Speaker Interconnect
    WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
    Cambridge Audio Azur 851N - DAC/Streamer
    B&K Reference 50 Pre/Pro
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
    Sangean HD FM Tuner

    Barn system:
    SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
    Carver C-1 pre
    Carver M1.5t
    BluDenso - Bluetooth receiver/DAC
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 870
    So after almost a week of using this I'm starting to dislike the "brightness" of it. At low volumes it's clarity is pleasing but I've found that I can't crank it anymore without it fatiguing me. The B&K Reference 50 pre had such a smooth and natural sound that it was always making me want to turn it up more and more until everyone in the house started freaking out, though at low volume it was not as pleasing to the ears as the CA. Maybe not cranking it is a good thing....
    Home System:
    SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
    800 Va Dreadnought- Speaker Interconnect
    WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
    Cambridge Audio Azur 851N - DAC/Streamer
    B&K Reference 50 Pre/Pro
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
    Sangean HD FM Tuner

    Barn system:
    SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
    Carver C-1 pre
    Carver M1.5t
    BluDenso - Bluetooth receiver/DAC
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,871
    Well you could always put the B&K back into the system for preamp duties, and just run the 851N to it as a fixed line level source.

    There's no reason you have to use the Cambridge as a preamp just because it has that capability.
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 870
    True but I was trying to free up space... The B&K takes up a big chunk of space. I'm torn...
    Home System:
    SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
    800 Va Dreadnought- Speaker Interconnect
    WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
    Cambridge Audio Azur 851N - DAC/Streamer
    B&K Reference 50 Pre/Pro
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
    Sangean HD FM Tuner

    Barn system:
    SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
    Carver C-1 pre
    Carver M1.5t
    BluDenso - Bluetooth receiver/DAC
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,871
    Can't you just put it back into that large open space underneath the Cambridge?
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 870
    edited February 26
    Home System:
    SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
    800 Va Dreadnought- Speaker Interconnect
    WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
    Cambridge Audio Azur 851N - DAC/Streamer
    B&K Reference 50 Pre/Pro
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
    Sangean HD FM Tuner

    Barn system:
    SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
    Carver C-1 pre
    Carver M1.5t
    BluDenso - Bluetooth receiver/DAC
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,752
    Hmmm....your the first person I've heard of that thinks it's on the bright side. Interesting....because that would be a turn off for me. Cambridge usually tilts to the warmer side of neutral.
    HT SYSTEM-2 channel
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Dynaudio Audience 72
    Polk FX500 surrounds
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k Ref 4420 amp

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • displaynamedisplayname Posts: 119
    edited February 26
    tonyb wrote: »
    Hmmm....your the first person I've heard of that thinks it's on the bright side. Interesting....because that would be a turn off for me. Cambridge usually tilts to the warmer side of neutral.
    Skip and I talked about this when I got my CXN. He said he was thinking about potentially having me lean toward the 815N as it's obviously a more robust product with greater detail, but he said it is a little brighter, and he knew that was the main thing I'm trying to tame in my system so the CXN would be a better fit for my needs now. I don't think that means the 815N is bright in general. Just compared to certain things.
    Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
    Digital: Sony CDP-CE375 / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
    Harman Kardon HK 3770 > JBL Studio 580 + SVS SB12-NSD or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
    Discogs
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,465
    I'm on my phone. Can you list your gear again? If the unit doesn't have much time on it it might also need more time to settle down. I don't view these as inherently bright components.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 870
    Amps: B&K M200 Sonata's
    Speakers: Polk SDA 1C's
    Speaker Cables: Wireworld Mini-Eclipse 7
    IC's: Monoprice XLR's

    The CA 851N is about a year old so it should be broke in. I'm going to run the analog out's through the B&K to see what that does for me.
    Home System:
    SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
    800 Va Dreadnought- Speaker Interconnect
    WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
    Cambridge Audio Azur 851N - DAC/Streamer
    B&K Reference 50 Pre/Pro
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
    Sangean HD FM Tuner

    Barn system:
    SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
    Carver C-1 pre
    Carver M1.5t
    BluDenso - Bluetooth receiver/DAC
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,465
    What sources are you using? Is it mostly internet radio? Local files? Tidal?
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
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