Got a set of battery powered Audioquest speaker cables

Can't try em out for a while. Anyone try the CV4? I think that's what they are?

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  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 12,888
    I will refrain from commenting. I have. I know. They do have staying power.

    Do your own observations and don't rely on others backing your own findings...

    If I am off base? Shoot Russ.

    Tom
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction.
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 12,855
    Ok where's Russ ???
    PULL!
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 2,305
    Anyone had direct experience with these vs type 4?
    SPEAKERS - ELAC ADANTE AF-61, TOTEM RAINMAKER, SONUS FABER SOLO, DEFINITIVE TECH SM350, MIRAGE OASIS, SONOS PLAY 5 & 1'S, SVS SB16 ULTRA

    POWER - PS AUDIO M700, LINN LK240, MARANTZ SR5013

    PRE/DACS - PS AUDIO STELLAR GAIN, CAMBRIDGE AUDIO CXN V2

    SOURCE - DENON 2910, SONY CDX355, JVC XM448, REGA P2 (MODDED) ANIA CART, REGA FONO MC, XBOX 1 S, TIVO BOLT

    POWER/WIRES - AQ NIAGARA 5000, AQ HURRICANE HC 2M, , AQ COLORADO XLR AND RCAs, AQ VICTORIA, ACOUSTIC ZEN SATORI, ATLAS EOS PC, WW STRATUS/AURORA PC, AQ CARBON HDMIs

    MISC- OKKI NOKKI, HARMONY ELITE, SONY XBR900E
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 12,855
    joecoulson wrote: »
    Anyone had direct experience with these vs type 4?

    I have not but all the DBS cables are several steps above type 4 with better wire in most cases.
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 2,305
    Worth it for the price?

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    SPEAKERS - ELAC ADANTE AF-61, TOTEM RAINMAKER, SONUS FABER SOLO, DEFINITIVE TECH SM350, MIRAGE OASIS, SONOS PLAY 5 & 1'S, SVS SB16 ULTRA

    POWER - PS AUDIO M700, LINN LK240, MARANTZ SR5013

    PRE/DACS - PS AUDIO STELLAR GAIN, CAMBRIDGE AUDIO CXN V2

    SOURCE - DENON 2910, SONY CDX355, JVC XM448, REGA P2 (MODDED) ANIA CART, REGA FONO MC, XBOX 1 S, TIVO BOLT

    POWER/WIRES - AQ NIAGARA 5000, AQ HURRICANE HC 2M, , AQ COLORADO XLR AND RCAs, AQ VICTORIA, ACOUSTIC ZEN SATORI, ATLAS EOS PC, WW STRATUS/AURORA PC, AQ CARBON HDMIs

    MISC- OKKI NOKKI, HARMONY ELITE, SONY XBR900E
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 5,256
    @joecoulson I got em for a lot less, that's why I got em lol. They are for my other house, whenever I get there.
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 2,305
    Where??
    SPEAKERS - ELAC ADANTE AF-61, TOTEM RAINMAKER, SONUS FABER SOLO, DEFINITIVE TECH SM350, MIRAGE OASIS, SONOS PLAY 5 & 1'S, SVS SB16 ULTRA

    POWER - PS AUDIO M700, LINN LK240, MARANTZ SR5013

    PRE/DACS - PS AUDIO STELLAR GAIN, CAMBRIDGE AUDIO CXN V2

    SOURCE - DENON 2910, SONY CDX355, JVC XM448, REGA P2 (MODDED) ANIA CART, REGA FONO MC, XBOX 1 S, TIVO BOLT

    POWER/WIRES - AQ NIAGARA 5000, AQ HURRICANE HC 2M, , AQ COLORADO XLR AND RCAs, AQ VICTORIA, ACOUSTIC ZEN SATORI, ATLAS EOS PC, WW STRATUS/AURORA PC, AQ CARBON HDMIs

    MISC- OKKI NOKKI, HARMONY ELITE, SONY XBR900E
  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 12,888
    Joe, no.

    Tom
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction.
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 2,305
    Ok. I’ll wait til you guys come out to change anything there.
    SPEAKERS - ELAC ADANTE AF-61, TOTEM RAINMAKER, SONUS FABER SOLO, DEFINITIVE TECH SM350, MIRAGE OASIS, SONOS PLAY 5 & 1'S, SVS SB16 ULTRA

    POWER - PS AUDIO M700, LINN LK240, MARANTZ SR5013

    PRE/DACS - PS AUDIO STELLAR GAIN, CAMBRIDGE AUDIO CXN V2

    SOURCE - DENON 2910, SONY CDX355, JVC XM448, REGA P2 (MODDED) ANIA CART, REGA FONO MC, XBOX 1 S, TIVO BOLT

    POWER/WIRES - AQ NIAGARA 5000, AQ HURRICANE HC 2M, , AQ COLORADO XLR AND RCAs, AQ VICTORIA, ACOUSTIC ZEN SATORI, ATLAS EOS PC, WW STRATUS/AURORA PC, AQ CARBON HDMIs

    MISC- OKKI NOKKI, HARMONY ELITE, SONY XBR900E
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 5,256
    joecoulson wrote: »
    Where??

    Same place for $180
  • honestaquarianhonestaquarian Posts: 2,325
    edited January 16
    Oh GOD not ANOTHER cable thread :s
    Gentlemen, start your arguments!
    Post edited by honestaquarian on
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  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 5,256
    @honestaquarian so be it, all I need is cables of all sorts now.
  • fastz28fastz28 Posts: 622
    I have the cv-8 and the type 4
    polk 10bs--- prodigy hd2 modded Burson Audio opamps
    dcm time windows ---- parasound pre amp
    TDQ-1600 Broadcast Reference Tuner -- yamaha cd s700
    yamaha px-3 zu 103 cat2 --- audioquest ic sidewinders
    carver 1.5t--- audioquest cv-8 speaker cables
    ps audio 200cx--- ps audio phono pre amp
    sunfire sig 625 audio research sp-14
    audio research dac 7 klipsch rf -7111
    music hall Ikura carver m500t mk2 modded
  • fastz28fastz28 Posts: 622
    think the cv-4 and the type 4 are very close in sound.
    The cv-8 I love them.
    polk 10bs--- prodigy hd2 modded Burson Audio opamps
    dcm time windows ---- parasound pre amp
    TDQ-1600 Broadcast Reference Tuner -- yamaha cd s700
    yamaha px-3 zu 103 cat2 --- audioquest ic sidewinders
    carver 1.5t--- audioquest cv-8 speaker cables
    ps audio 200cx--- ps audio phono pre amp
    sunfire sig 625 audio research sp-14
    audio research dac 7 klipsch rf -7111
    music hall Ikura carver m500t mk2 modded
  • mantismantis Posts: 15,270
    The benefit from the Battery is to keep the cable broken in. If you use your system a lot I see no reason for the battery at all. If you listen once a week or less then the battery just buffers the break in period which happens amazingly fast.
    I'm a audioquest user and have been for decades but there are things they do that I'm not on board with. Maybe in some cases this is a benefit but it's not for me.

    The CV-4 and the Type-4 as stated sound almost exactly the same. Pretty hard to tell them apart. The CV series is a higher end better quality conductor and if your system can reveal the slight difference you will hear it. The Type -4 is a good speaker cable in it's own right.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • vcwatkinsvcwatkins Posts: 1,856
    I don't think the DBS is designed to help just in cases of infrequent use. From AQ's description on Music Direct:
    Dielectric Bias System (DBS) - DBS is an Audioquest patented system which does some pretty extraordinary things to the electrical properties of the cable yet operates completely outside the signal path. DBS simultaneously eliminates the “Dielectric Effect” as well as external interference.

    The Dielectric Effect, simply put, is a form of phase distortion caused by the tendency of insulation material to randomly and unpredictably absorb and then release the electrical energy passing through the conductors. This causes smearing of fine detail and distortion of tonal balance. DBS eliminates this distortion by using a high voltage potential from the battery packs to electrically saturate the insulating material. The difference is shocking (pardon the pun), bass extends deeper, voices become fleshed out and every instrument achieves a truly jaw-dropping level of realism. While the positive pole of the DBS pack creates the high-voltage potential inside the cable, the negative pole of the DBS pack is connected to a shield which runs the length of the cable, creating a virtual vacuum for external interference; energy that strikes this shield is instantly and completely drained into the negative portion of the battery creating ultra-black backgrounds, greatly enhancing resolution and dynamic range. The best part is that because the batteries are simply creating potential not current flow, they will last 3-5 years; about as long as they would if they were sitting on a shelf.

    @DarqueKnight talked a bit about this dielectric effect somewhere recently. I have no idea how effective DBS is, if at all, but I do like the sound from the set of CV-8's that I have used for HT purposes. The batteries seem to last forever, but keeping the battery packs secured to the cable can be a challenge if/when you move cables around. They seem to slip out of their velcro loops pretty easily. Like you, I got for much less than retail. So on an overall value basis, I like them.

    Let us know what you think.
    Den: Rega RP6 * AT33PTGII * Budgie SUT * Jolida jd9 * Roon (Sonic Transporter) * PS Audio DirectStream Jr. * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Sunfire Signature II * PSAudio p3 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2
    Office: Roon * Sonore UltraRendu (LPS-1, WW Plat7, Iso Regen, Lush) * ProJect Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * PSAudio Dectet * DH Labs Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354
    Beach: Music Hall MMF5.1se * Speed Box II * DL103r * Lounge Copla/LCRIII * Sonos * Schiit Yggdrasil * Belles 20a Pre * First Watt F5 Clone * PSAudio Dectet * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,236
    battery powered may be misstating things a bit, no?
  • ZLTFULZLTFUL Posts: 4,857
    So @mantis and @vcwatkins are actually both right.

    Cable break-in is largely a case of dielectric conditioning.
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

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  • vcwatkinsvcwatkins Posts: 1,856
    I forgot to mention the bananas - I think they're called SureGrip - that are on my CV-8's. I'm pretty sure I am in the minority around here not liking this type. They are springy and I believe designed to maximize contact. But I always have trouble with one or two when plugging/unplugging on certain speakers. They have to be at just the right angle and if I'm doing this blind or semi-blind, I usually end up cursing who or whatever is nearby. I even broke one somehow. I think it must have been bent by pressure on the cable at the amp as I rolled the rack back toward the wall. I didn't notice a problem until I lost all sound from the center, investigated, and found it had completely separated.

    They're definitely better than many bananas that are too small and cannot be made wider/tighter. So if your CV-4's have them, I'd recommend you take a little extra care and be patient (at least more patient than I, which is likely not hard to do, hehe).
    Den: Rega RP6 * AT33PTGII * Budgie SUT * Jolida jd9 * Roon (Sonic Transporter) * PS Audio DirectStream Jr. * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Sunfire Signature II * PSAudio p3 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2
    Office: Roon * Sonore UltraRendu (LPS-1, WW Plat7, Iso Regen, Lush) * ProJect Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * PSAudio Dectet * DH Labs Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354
    Beach: Music Hall MMF5.1se * Speed Box II * DL103r * Lounge Copla/LCRIII * Sonos * Schiit Yggdrasil * Belles 20a Pre * First Watt F5 Clone * PSAudio Dectet * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 5,256
    @vcwatkins I am gonna use deoxit liquid if that will help and is good on sliver plate. Whadda ya think?
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 12,855
    one of those gold and silver cleaning rags works wonders Bruce. They are sold in just about any Target, Wal-Mart or Kohls type store at the jewelry counter. By the way silver tarnish I understand does not affect conductivity like say copper tarnish.
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 2,305
    A silver cleaning cloth (polish imbedded) is best as you don’t have to worry about fluid getting inside the banana clip
    SPEAKERS - ELAC ADANTE AF-61, TOTEM RAINMAKER, SONUS FABER SOLO, DEFINITIVE TECH SM350, MIRAGE OASIS, SONOS PLAY 5 & 1'S, SVS SB16 ULTRA

    POWER - PS AUDIO M700, LINN LK240, MARANTZ SR5013

    PRE/DACS - PS AUDIO STELLAR GAIN, CAMBRIDGE AUDIO CXN V2

    SOURCE - DENON 2910, SONY CDX355, JVC XM448, REGA P2 (MODDED) ANIA CART, REGA FONO MC, XBOX 1 S, TIVO BOLT

    POWER/WIRES - AQ NIAGARA 5000, AQ HURRICANE HC 2M, , AQ COLORADO XLR AND RCAs, AQ VICTORIA, ACOUSTIC ZEN SATORI, ATLAS EOS PC, WW STRATUS/AURORA PC, AQ CARBON HDMIs

    MISC- OKKI NOKKI, HARMONY ELITE, SONY XBR900E
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,236
    vcwatkins wrote: »
    I forgot to mention the bananas...
    [In my best Don Adams as Maxwell Smart voice]
    They always forget to mention the bananas...

    :|

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  • OleBootOleBoot Posts: 434

    I started out with nothing and have most of it left.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,236
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