Speaker wire

Will be looking for a pair of 8' terminated with nanners. Now that I've sold my pool table I'll be relocating the 2 channel rig to a new rack(yet to be purchased). I figure 8' will do it but I can always tale care of an additional foot or so. Not sure if it matters but the speakers are SDA2B, amp is a Parasound HCA1500 and the pre is tubed Dynaco PAS4.

Anybody have something in the closet to save me a few bucks on new wire? No rush on this since I have yet to decide on the audio stand.
Yep, my name really is Bob.
Parasound HCA1500, Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Oppo BDP93, "upgraded" Polk SDA 2B.

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  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 2,992
    edited November 17
    I think I have some lamp cord tucked away... :p


    I believe @DSkip has a few still or sale that would suit you.
    Post edited by FestYboy on
  • muncybobmuncybob Posts: 1,914
    As much as I would love to have any of those, the Mrs would shoot me.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
    Parasound HCA1500, Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Oppo BDP93, "upgraded" Polk SDA 2B.
  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 2,992
    Just make sure it's loaded with blanks first... That way both of you walk away feeling good about the situation ;)
  • mantismantis Posts: 15,064
    Don't know how much your willing to spend but I have a bunch of Speaker cables terminated in Banana's. PM me
    Dan
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,136
    The Helicon 16 from wireworld is a good budget option. I prefer the OCC but it’s a big hike for the improved conductor.
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    Cabling: Wireworld
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 11,521
    muncybob wrote: »
    As much as I would love to have any of those, the Mrs would shoot me.

    Duck
  • minerminer Posts: 1,137
    I have some MIT Avt1 for sale.
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,601
    ^^^ The DEVIL made me post that...
  • muncybobmuncybob Posts: 1,914
    Problem is I don't have 8' of hangers and would have to splice them which I'm sure requires tools I don't have.

    The "boss" says I have a budget of only around $200 and she's even on the fence about that since I'm also splurging for a rack at the same time. I doubt the MIT's are in this range, but if they are PM me!

    I can pick up some Audioquest Rocket 33 or Type 8(no frills) for about the same price.....not sure which way to go.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
    Parasound HCA1500, Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Oppo BDP93, "upgraded" Polk SDA 2B.
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 4,679
    Wireworld closeouts has Lunas fo $90 I think
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,601
    Not that this is necessarily helpful but at least it will be a serious reply! :)

    I have been using some hand-me-down Canare cabling purchased (if memory serves) from @ALL212 for a while, and I have been pretty darned pleased with it. I noticed a recent for-sale ad in which he said he's moved to
    Mogami and Wireworld
    http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/184136/canare-4s8-speaker-wire-man-cave-cleanout

    So... all three of the above-mentioned cables seem like worthy and (?) cost-effective options?


    FWIW...I was previously using some of that "Anti-Cable" sort of stuff (i.e., twin runs of 18 gauge varnish insulated magnet wire, it was store-bought but I am not 100% sure of the brand) which sounded pretty good (better than zip cord) but was (is) ungainly due to its stiffness. Best suited to a one and done installation -- which is anathema to me. ;)

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    That image looks like it should also have an "As seen on TV" logo on it! :p


  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,601
    edited November 19
    Mogami & Canare cabling is readily available, e.g., from https://www.markertek.com/ (whom I'd recommend as a vendor based on my experiences to date, FWIW) -- terminate as you wish :)

    I know folks who spend more on individual components than I would prefer to spend on an automobile :p who are using Mogami wire for interconnects and for speaker wire. Take that for what it's worth :)

    That said -- the cool guys on my rather rarefied side of this hobby :) (i.e., fleapowered/low powered vacuum tube amplifiers and large, high-sensitivity loudspeakers) seem to be enamored of this Duelund wire... it's not inexpensive, though (at least by my standards) and I've not heard it (at least, not knowingly). Probably a little out of step with the kind of wire that's fashionable around these parts, but still I figured I'd mention it.

    https://www.partsconnexion.com/duelund-speaker-cable.html

  • muncybobmuncybob Posts: 1,914
    Well, you have me thinking now :) Have read some good things about Mogami W3103. Also looked at Canare 4S11 and Belden 5000. I'm thinking with my hearing I probably can't go wrong with any of these but am open to opinions for sure. Also, why would one select nanners over spades or visa versa as long as either are an option for the equipment in use?
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
    Parasound HCA1500, Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Oppo BDP93, "upgraded" Polk SDA 2B.
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 11,521
    Canare 4s11 use this link.

    https://www.chromaleaf.com/products/canare-4s11-star-quad-speaker-wire-per-foot?variant=43132896904

    if you call Have inc they will beat the price. the last time I called it was .95 per foot.

    http://store.haveinc.com/p-49380-canare-4s11-starquad-speaker-cable-14-awg-cut.aspx

    Have Inc. is a great place to do business with.
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,136
    I'm going to go back to recommending the Helicon 16 OCC as an option. I am a huge fan of OCC conductor as you can literally hear the graininess of the OFC disappear. OFC is a cluster of many crystals which is interesting as it usually has a grainy sound to it. OCC is essentially a single crystal stretched out and it smooths everything out. This is a big reason why the Equinox speaker cables are my standard recommendation.

    I know you said $200 is your max and I'm not trying to push, but if you could find a way to make the Mini Eclipse I'm selling in the Cables thread work, it would be a long time before you'd ever have to touch your speaker cables again.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • ALL212ALL212 Posts: 845
    Wanna play?

    Mogami 3103 (12g twisted pair) is great wire. Dave - @Daboyz - just handed me a pile of it to terminate. Unfortunately I've misplaced my heat gun (new one on the way) over at my sons house so we're experiencing a delay. But I did have my own 3103 that I've rented him at an exorbitantly high price until I've got these done.

    Mogami 3082 (14g coax) is also a variation that I've used. It's not quite as impressive physically as the 3101 but is also a very good speaker wire.

    Mogami 2534 (2 pair of 24g twisted with a shield) can also be used. Just tie all the wires together for about 15g.

    If you're still shopping let me know. The 3082 could be let go... I don't remember how long they are. I know the ends are different vendors but both ends are 'naners.
    Aaron
  • ALL212ALL212 Posts: 845
    Check the market for the 3082. Now that I've thought through it I'm not sure where I would use that and it might as well be gone.
    Aaron
  • muncybobmuncybob Posts: 1,914
    I really like those Viablue connectors. First time I've seen an insulating jacket over the actual nanner. I'm leaning toward the 3103 with those connectors but still undecided.

    Once I relocated the rig(wall to wall carpet being installed today) I must take better measurements for the length needed. As usual, I'm probably overthinking this for a short run of speaker wire but all the input is greatly appreciated.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
    Parasound HCA1500, Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Oppo BDP93, "upgraded" Polk SDA 2B.
  • shadowlightshadowlight Posts: 325
    edited November 20
    I think I have some Canare cables, but the banana on one side for both right and left is bare and I will have to measure it. I will take some pictures tonight.

    The catch - you have to donate 25 bucks to any of your local food bank charity/church, etc and pay shipping. If you donate 35 bucks I will ship it to you for free :smile:

    Edit: Mods if my post is not appropriate please bin it. Just trying to help local charities during the Thanksgiving and Holiday season.
  • helipilotdoughelipilotdoug Posts: 1,182
    Hey Bob,
    I have a pair of 8 1/2 ft. Canare 4s11 speaker cables I'll let you have for $125 shipped to you. Let me know if you are interested. I made these cables several years ago and used them in my main system before I started upgrading. xixw52snbhot.jpg
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    SRS 2.1TL
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    CSiA6
    FXiA4
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    Monitor 10A's

    http://www.douglasconnection.com
  • Sorry, my cables are shorter than what you need.
  • ALL212ALL212 Posts: 845
    I bought @daboyz Wireworld speaker cables over in the FS stuff - the blue ones, Oasis? Not sure what generation, not sure how long they were run.

    Plug for @dskip and his Wireworld cables:

    Pulled the Groneberg cables, these are the ultra shielded Quattro Reference wire terminated with Via Blue tubes at the wire and T2 spades on the speaker end and T2 banana's on the amp end. I've never doubted them for a minute but it was time to shake things up. They've been in for all of 15 minutes or so and although not night and day difference I'm going with better... Bass seems more - that's all I'm going to give it for now. Nothing standing out yet in mid to treble but definitely no losses there.

    I don't like moving things around on the main rig so don't expect me to pop the Grony's back in, nor will the Mogami's get pushed in there until I'm ready for another changeup. And based on what I'm hearing that might be awhile.
    Aaron
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,136
    edited November 21
    Another option that you won’t find is PNF Audio. Great cables that nobody ever sells anymore. Part of me wishes I would have kept my two pairs.

    It’s been about a year since I’ve seen any listed anywhere. For what it’s worth, the Equinox is what finally got me out of those. The biggest improvement? A loss of grain I didn’t know the PNF exhibited prior.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,971
    edited November 21
    ALL212 wrote: »
    They've been in for all of 15 minutes or so and although not night and day difference I'm going with better... Bass seems more - that's all I'm going to give it for now. Nothing standing out yet in mid to treble but definitely no losses there.

    Give them time to settle in physically undisturbed. It can take a while to break them in.

    In my experience I usually start to hear positive changes around 50 hours of active signal.
  • muncybobmuncybob Posts: 1,914
    Ok, firstly I want to thank everybody for the offers/suggestions. If nothing else I learned a thing or two from doing some research.

    Now it's with a red face that I must admit I started this thread due to a bad memory....I was the recipient of a pair of cables from a Karma by Trey, the Supra Quadrax speaker wire. I tucked these away until the music room got rearranged and now they are getting ready to be put into the rig. If nothing else I will give a short review of them compared to the much cheaper looking wire I had been using.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
    Parasound HCA1500, Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Oppo BDP93, "upgraded" Polk SDA 2B.
  • muncybobmuncybob Posts: 1,914
    Since this is the WTB section I thought I would mention I now need some nanners or spades that will take bulky wire. Once each pair of this wire is twisted it is fairly "thick".
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
    Parasound HCA1500, Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Oppo BDP93, "upgraded" Polk SDA 2B.
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,136
    Get with Doug for those terminations.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • JaybeezJaybeez Posts: 696
    Hey Bob,
    I have a pair of 8 1/2 ft. Canare 4s11 speaker cables I'll let you have for $125 shipped to you. Let me know if you are interested. I made these cables several years ago and used them in my main system before I started upgrading. xixw52snbhot.jpg

    You still want to sell these? Need an upgrade for my 703s, and this is the perfect length.
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  • JaybeezJaybeez Posts: 696
    Gonna have to pass on this. Truck developed a massive fuel leak, and repairs are likely going to take any spare $$ I have for a few months. Thanks for reaching out though.
    Living Room (HT):Denon AVR X-3000 ; LSiM 703 ; LSiM 704C ; FXi4s ; Sub – Rhythmik F12SE

    2 Channel Studio: Marantz PM8004 Integrated ; Marantz SA8004 ; Music Hall MMF 7.3TT w/Ortofon Bronze; Schiit Bifrost DAC ; Ascend Acoustics Sierra 2s ; Rythmik F12SE

    "And these children that you spit on, as they try to change their worlds, are immune to your consultations. They're quite aware of what they're going through."
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