MQA reps disrupt and attack at RMAF seminar

F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,608
Shameful behavior by MQA reps.

Political Correctness'.........defined

"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 11,454
    dang that was a mess
  • SIHABSIHAB Posts: 277
    I'm the guy who is asleep
  • SIHABSIHAB Posts: 277
    first step, attack the messenger.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,608
    I thought you were asleep.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • SIHABSIHAB Posts: 277
    That could have went better.
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,120
    edited October 8
    Wow, that was just bad form by MQA.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • SIHABSIHAB Posts: 277
    Yes, forget them. Who needs MQA? Not I.
  • FTGVFTGV Posts: 3,598
    edited October 8
    Well I can see their point. Someone was calling their baby ugly and they a have a big cash cow to protect. Also while the presenter may have had some valid points did not seem the most knowledgeable or articulate. And he should have disclosed his source.
  • SIHABSIHAB Posts: 277
    edited October 8
    Why disclose his source? I would say he shouldn't have presented if anything.
    He did a poor job, but MQA is a sham.

    Thinking about it, it will startup some speciality studios and MOFI can
    release un-MQA'd CD's.
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,603
    SIHAB wrote: »
    I'm the guy who is asleep

    He had a white cane. It's visible closer to the end. (33:55)
  • SIHABSIHAB Posts: 277
    I can't hear that well either. :#
  • FTGVFTGV Posts: 3,598
    SIHAB wrote: »
    Why disclose his source?
    To add credibility to his case. And give MQA a fair chance to refute(deny) the results.
    but MQA is a sham.
    It is certainly one of the most divisive audio subjects I can remember.

  • FTGVFTGV Posts: 3,598
    edited October 8
    SIHAB wrote: »
    I can't hear that well either. :#

    Then how can you know for certain MQA is a sham? :o :/ :D I have not heard it so can't comment pro or con.
  • SIHABSIHAB Posts: 277
    They have had any number of chances to refute the naysayers.
    They can't. Sometimes things are exactly what they look and sound like.
    Anyway. I've got my 100 posts.
  • FTGVFTGV Posts: 3,598
    SIHAB wrote: »
    Anyway. I've got my 100 posts.
    Good luck with the sale.

  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,603
    SIHAB wrote: »
    I've got my 100 posts.

    In that case, sell me a Parasound A21 or a nice McIntosh tube amp. My budget is $300, it must include shipping and insurance to Vermont, and I demand a review of each unit before I decide which one I want.
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 11,454
    I've seen that blind guy with the cane at both RMAF last year and this year at Axpona this year. I wonder who he is?

    While i can agree he should of, what if the info is actually coming from an MQA employee?

    The presenter sure didn't have his stuff together. I wished i could hear what was being said we couldn't hear.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,608
    FTGV wrote: »
    SIHAB wrote: »
    Why disclose his source?
    To add credibility to his case. And give MQA a fair chance to refute(deny) the results.
    but MQA is a sham.
    It is certainly one of the most divisive audio subjects I can remember.

    Seemed bloody obvious to me that MQA were trying to use a deflection tactic instead of refuting the results because they can't. This is further evident by the fact they refused to wait until the presentation was finished as the presenter requested for any discussion. They are nothing more than desperate thugs.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • jeremymarcinkojeremymarcinko Posts: 3,259
    So not lossless and not what the artist intended, but it sounds good is what I gathered from that shat show.

    Might be fun to listen to at times but knowing that, I am going to want know what the original sounded like then compare, then be stuck overthinking which I should be listening to. I don’t need all that stress to muck up my good time. I’ll just stick to the real lossless version and leave well enough alone.
    Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
  • verbverb Posts: 3,983
    So I watched the 1st 11 minutes and that was it for me. Seen lots of folks like that in my biz. He should have been escorted out of the conference, IMO.
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  • EmlynEmlyn Posts: 2,163
    edited October 8
    The Hit Squad...minus Bob Stuart in the room but including the marketing and sales folks...

    http://www.mqa.co.uk/professional/meet-the-team

    I think the MQA team was at the event to do their own seminars and were invited to attend the Computeraudiophile one. This one turned out to be sort of like a heated internet forum debate that leads nowhere, only this was live action nerdy.
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,940
    Just say no to DRM.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,940
    Emlyn wrote: »
    The Hit Squad...minus Bob Stuart in the room but including the marketing and sales folks...

    http://www.mqa.co.uk/professional/meet-the-team

    Yikes, just what I've always wanted. Huge megapixel photos of ugly old white men.

    thumb_197_default_big.jpeg

    thumb_952_default_big.jpeg

    RAWR! WE WILL CONTROL ALL THAT YOU SEE AND HEAR!
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,603
    kharp1 wrote: »
    MQA can just as easily refute or deny the results with out having any knowledge of the source. IF MQA had a rebuttal, other than trying to discredit the messenger and source, they should have done just that. Knowing the source only gives them someone else to personally attack. Sounds a lot like modern politics. Disgusting!

    Exactly. They were trying to find out who else to attack. Or possibly discredit in some other way. There is potentially a lot of money riding on this if it gets adopted. These clowns would probably stoop pretty low to: 1. Ensure their investments. 2. Ensure their futures. (Or their children's futures....or, judging from the looks of them, their current grandchildren's futures too.)
  • FTGVFTGV Posts: 3,598
    edited October 9
    They certainly had an in your face Kamala Harris type of approach. :o :) No doubt they will do their best to protect their baby given the potential huge financial gain.
    Post edited by FTGV on
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,530
    edited October 9
    So not lossless and not what the artist intended, but it sounds good is what I gathered from that shat show.
    ...

    Well -- given all of the remixing and remastering that goes on with "classic" recordings these days, "not what the artist intended" seems like a pretty minor issue in 2018. :(
  • SIHABSIHAB Posts: 277
    Can't wait to re-buy the MQA'd Beatles catalog.
  • SIHABSIHAB Posts: 277
    edited October 9
    FTGV wrote: »
    SIHAB wrote: »
    I can't hear that well either. :#

    Then how can you know for certain MQA is a sham? :o :/ :D I have not heard it so can't comment pro or con.

    It was a JOKE. A JOKE.
    You don't have to hear it to know it's a sham. Just "get your read on."
    Hear, let me help:
    https://benchmarkmedia.com/blogs/application_notes/163302855-is-mqa-doa

    Again, who needs it?
  • mrbigbluelightmrbigbluelight Posts: 7,564
    "We're not issuing MQA vinyl at this time"

    Well now .....
    MrBigBlueLight
    Here to pick your brain & steal your cookies
    Shifting to Plan B+
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