New bookie uses passive radiator

F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,631
These look very interesting. Tweeter with wave guide at the bottom and passive radiator on the back. The only thing that bugs me is they are using Bennic caps....yuck. Still, I'd like to hear a pair.

https://www.buchardtaudio.com/shop/s400-black
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,131
    How bad do you want to hear a pair?
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  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,331
    I think ZReviews is gonna do something on these soon, I saw them in the background of one of his recent videos and he mentioned them.
    They look sweet. :)
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,965
    Sean from Zero Fidelity is working on a review also. Great looking speaker! I'd like to hear it.

    Buchardt-S400_13.jpg?format=1500w
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,631
    DSkip wrote: »
    How bad do you want to hear a pair?

    Send them to me.
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,131
    F1nut wrote: »
    DSkip wrote: »
    How bad do you want to hear a pair?

    Send them to me.

    Let me see if I can work something out for you. I don't have a pair but I have contacts.
    audiothesis.com/

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,631
    Cool B)
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  • K_MK_M Posts: 1,045
    Lsi15, Lsi9, LsiC,Rta11t,M5jr+,M4,SDA 3.1TL, SDA SRS 2.3TL, Rti6....Still listing stuff, a work in progress.
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  • zingozingo Audiophile Posts: 11,690
    The frequency response is very impressive for a speaker that small, and the build quality looks good too!
  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 23,899
    As Zingo mentioned, that frequency response is excellent for a bookie. Down to 33Hz (+/- 3dB). And a 20 year warranty?

    I'd have to hear it to believe it, unless it's a printing glitch or translation glitch. Impressive number

    H9
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  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,213
    DSkip wrote: »
    How bad do you want to hear a pair?

    Can you get a pair for the get together?
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,131
    marvda1 wrote: »
    DSkip wrote: »
    How bad do you want to hear a pair?

    Can you get a pair for the get together?

    I can try but it might be too close.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,580
    edited October 10
    heiney9 wrote: »
    As Zingo mentioned, that frequency response is excellent for a bookie. Down to 33Hz (+/- 3dB). And a 20 year warranty?

    I'd have to hear it to believe it, unless it's a printing glitch or translation glitch. Impressive number

    H9

    I think the real question on the table is the test conditions used to get that sort of response. Hoffman's Iron Law is... well... kind of inviolable.
    :p
    33 Hz out of a little (passive) box would translate to low sensitivity.
    Umm... I assume this is a passive loudspeaker (no DSP trickery goin' on)?

    Data at 10 meters away (anechoic?):

    2bbx6x1ftdr8.png

    They kind of make a PR sound way more exotic and magical than they really are :p
  • FTGVFTGV Posts: 3,599
    edited October 10
    The impedance plot indicates the PR is tuned to the mid 30hz region. This correlates nicely with the 33hz bass extension claim. I would expect the in room bass to be quite good in a normal sized room. I really like the waveguide design on the tweeter.Waveguides ( shallow horns) have been popular amongst the DIY crowd the last few years for good reason .It's nice to see they are now becoming more common on commercial products. Looks like a nice little speaker.
  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 23,899
    edited October 10
    It does look like a nice little speaker. Be very interested in hearing it.

    H9
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  • maxwardmaxward Posts: 189
    The Zero Fidelity review is now available.
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,168
    Looks interesting, but they won't win any beauty contests.
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,965
    maxward wrote: »
    The Zero Fidelity review is now available.

    Good review from Sean, as usual. I just wish he would level match his vocal/speech sections and the interlude music that plays when he's transitioning to a different part of the review. If I'm not quick on my volume control, the interlude music is so much louder that it completely blasts me. It would be trivial for him to either bring up the volume of his voice or reduce the volume of the interlude music, so it's not necessary to make repeated volume adjustments throughout the video.

    That being said, these speakers sound like they're a great value for the money.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,631
    edited October 19
    tonyb wrote: »
    Looks interesting, but they won't win any beauty contests.

    A piano black finish, beveled or rounded edges and a full grill cover would get them closer.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,168
    Agreed Jess, maybe a future generation will make those adjustments.
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