New bookie uses passive radiator

F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,705
These look very interesting. Tweeter with wave guide at the bottom and passive radiator on the back. The only thing that bugs me is they are using Bennic caps....yuck. Still, I'd like to hear a pair.

https://www.buchardtaudio.com/shop/s400-black
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,125
    How bad do you want to hear a pair?
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,632
    I think ZReviews is gonna do something on these soon, I saw them in the background of one of his recent videos and he mentioned them.
    They look sweet. :)
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,140
    Sean from Zero Fidelity is working on a review also. Great looking speaker! I'd like to hear it.

    Buchardt-S400_13.jpg?format=1500w
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,705
    DSkip wrote: »
    How bad do you want to hear a pair?

    Send them to me.
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,125
    F1nut wrote: »
    DSkip wrote: »
    How bad do you want to hear a pair?

    Send them to me.

    Let me see if I can work something out for you. I don't have a pair but I have contacts.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,705
    Cool B)
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  • zingozingo Audiophile Posts: 11,829
    The frequency response is very impressive for a speaker that small, and the build quality looks good too!
  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,112
    As Zingo mentioned, that frequency response is excellent for a bookie. Down to 33Hz (+/- 3dB). And a 20 year warranty?

    I'd have to hear it to believe it, unless it's a printing glitch or translation glitch. Impressive number

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  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,630
    DSkip wrote: »
    How bad do you want to hear a pair?

    Can you get a pair for the get together?
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,125
    marvda1 wrote: »
    DSkip wrote: »
    How bad do you want to hear a pair?

    Can you get a pair for the get together?

    I can try but it might be too close.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,020
    edited October 2018
    heiney9 wrote: »
    As Zingo mentioned, that frequency response is excellent for a bookie. Down to 33Hz (+/- 3dB). And a 20 year warranty?

    I'd have to hear it to believe it, unless it's a printing glitch or translation glitch. Impressive number

    H9

    I think the real question on the table is the test conditions used to get that sort of response. Hoffman's Iron Law is... well... kind of inviolable.
    :p
    33 Hz out of a little (passive) box would translate to low sensitivity.
    Umm... I assume this is a passive loudspeaker (no DSP trickery goin' on)?

    Data at 10 meters away (anechoic?):

    2bbx6x1ftdr8.png

    They kind of make a PR sound way more exotic and magical than they really are :p
  • FTGVFTGV Posts: 3,653
    edited October 2018
    The impedance plot indicates the PR is tuned to the mid 30hz region. This correlates nicely with the 33hz bass extension claim. I would expect the in room bass to be quite good in a normal sized room. I really like the waveguide design on the tweeter.Waveguides ( shallow horns) have been popular amongst the DIY crowd the last few years for good reason .It's nice to see they are now becoming more common on commercial products. Looks like a nice little speaker.
  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,112
    edited October 2018
    It does look like a nice little speaker. Be very interested in hearing it.

    H9
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  • maxwardmaxward Posts: 382
    The Zero Fidelity review is now available.
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,445
    Looks interesting, but they won't win any beauty contests.
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,140
    maxward wrote: »
    The Zero Fidelity review is now available.

    Good review from Sean, as usual. I just wish he would level match his vocal/speech sections and the interlude music that plays when he's transitioning to a different part of the review. If I'm not quick on my volume control, the interlude music is so much louder that it completely blasts me. It would be trivial for him to either bring up the volume of his voice or reduce the volume of the interlude music, so it's not necessary to make repeated volume adjustments throughout the video.

    That being said, these speakers sound like they're a great value for the money.
    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,705
    edited October 2018
    tonyb wrote: »
    Looks interesting, but they won't win any beauty contests.

    A piano black finish, beveled or rounded edges and a full grill cover would get them closer.
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,445
    Agreed Jess, maybe a future generation will make those adjustments.
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