Shunyata Venom 14 power cord - ongoing review
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Well, you guys have really derailed this thread.
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Hello again... I have cancelled my order of the Furman PST 8D and will buy a CyberPower Pure Sine Wave UPS instead...
You don’t want a UPS in an audio rig.Political Correctness'.........defined
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mlistens03 wrote: »Laelle, I mean something like a set of speakers and a integrated amplifier. I’ve got a pretty epic system (all used gear) which I’ve spent a total of around $175 on. Not using most of that stuff anymore, but it sounded great, especially for the price of Polk T15’s and a Lepai 2020, plus cables and stuff.
So basically, if your on a big time budget, you can still get great sound, because audio gear depreciates quick, meaning value for people who buy used gear. My Mission 770’s sound like a $1000 speaker, but I’ve put $75 into them. They are worth a little over double that, but still, $150 for that kind of sound? Yes please.
If you decide to do this, just ask us for suggestions and we’d be happy to help spend your money.
Thank you! I’ll see what I can do... I heard one tube preamp off of a big tower speaker and I was bummed by that class b tube sound, I expected much better sound... I pretty much then gave up on preamps and systems... but maybe it’s just because the power was not clean and it came out harsh?? Hmm... I can’t wait to try the pc or ups...!
What was it as I've never heard of a class B tube pre amp.Political Correctness'.........defined
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mlistens03 wrote: »mlistens03 wrote: »Laelle, I mean something like a set of speakers and a integrated amplifier. I’ve got a pretty epic system (all used gear) which I’ve spent a total of around $175 on. Not using most of that stuff anymore, but it sounded great, especially for the price of Polk T15’s and a Lepai 2020, plus cables and stuff.
So basically, if your on a big time budget, you can still get great sound, because audio gear depreciates quick, meaning value for people who buy used gear. My Mission 770’s sound like a $1000 speaker, but I’ve put $75 into them. They are worth a little over double that, but still, $150 for that kind of sound? Yes please.
If you decide to do this, just ask us for suggestions and we’d be happy to help spend your money.
Thank you! I’ll see what I can do... I heard one tube preamp off of a big tower speaker and I was bummed by that class b tube sound, I expected much better sound... I pretty much then gave up on preamps and systems... but maybe it’s just because the power was not clean and it came out harsh?? Hmm... I can’t wait to try the pc or ups...!
Class B?
Class B amps (I think) are very, VERY efficient, but have lots of distortion, and poor dynamics. They are popular in places where efficiency counts, like a watch, or a phone, or a microwave, etc.
What area are you in? I’d be happy to look on your local Craigslist, and give you some ideas of what to look for, and I’m sure others here would as well.
I live in Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada actually...! -
Pleaaaase tell me why... I really need to know... I did try to cancel my amazon order yesterday but the package is still coming through...
Let me know why! Explain to me how a pure sine wave signal from a pure sine wave UPS would not be good because I really don’t understand!!!mlistens03 wrote: »Laelle, I mean something like a set of speakers and a integrated amplifier. I’ve got a pretty epic system (all used gear) which I’ve spent a total of around $175 on. Not using most of that stuff anymore, but it sounded great, especially for the price of Polk T15’s and a Lepai 2020, plus cables and stuff.
So basically, if your on a big time budget, you can still get great sound, because audio gear depreciates quick, meaning value for people who buy used gear. My Mission 770’s sound like a $1000 speaker, but I’ve put $75 into them. They are worth a little over double that, but still, $150 for that kind of sound? Yes please.
If you decide to do this, just ask us for suggestions and we’d be happy to help spend your money.
Thank you! I’ll see what I can do... I heard one tube preamp off of a big tower speaker and I was bummed by that class b tube sound, I expected much better sound... I pretty much then gave up on preamps and systems... but maybe it’s just because the power was not clean and it came out harsh?? Hmm... I can’t wait to try the pc or ups...!
What was it as I've never heard of a class B tube pre amp.
Unfortunately I don’t remember the model, all I know is it was a cheap 2 way tower speakers with two 15 inch woofers and I sent it back because there was no tweeter in the tweeter slot!Post edited by laelle on -
I live in Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada actually...!
I know where that is.
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Hahahah awesome I think I know approximately where that is too xD
Aww God though... I can’t decide between a UPS or a power conditioner, I’d believe a UPS would be better since it regenerates a pure sine wave, I also just read this;
https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/128836-hifi-gear-on-ups-improved-the-sound-why/ -
Hahahah awesome I think I know approximately where that is too xD
Aww God though... I can’t decide between a UPS or a power conditioner, I’d believe a UPS would be better since it regenerates a pure sine wave, I also just read this;
https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/128836-hifi-gear-on-ups-improved-the-sound-why/
To be honest, I don't think you are going to see a noticeable difference regardless of which unit you buy, based on your equipment.
EDIT: That should have read: "....noticeable difference in AUDIO, and even less likely in your VIDEO." -
Hahahah awesome I think I know approximately where that is too xD
Aww God though... I can’t decide between a UPS or a power conditioner, I’d believe a UPS would be better since it regenerates a pure sine wave, I also just read this;
https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/128836-hifi-gear-on-ups-improved-the-sound-why/
To be honest, I don't think you are going to see a noticeable difference regardless of which unit you buy, based on your equipment.
Oh but don’t worry, I am pretty sure the AC from the wall isn’t ideal, I... think I can hear it, the garbled, fuzzy sound due to the noisy sine wave... I have extremely good ears...
This is what I’d expect;
http://snag.gy/1Wpb9.jpg
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Haven't noticed any life being sucked out of my music with the PS Audio Dectet.
One of the reasons I bought a PS Audio unit too, if anything it improved the sound. Can't say the same for some other MOV devices. Running Springs is another brand, expensive, but worth it, if you have some coin locked up in a system .HT SYSTEM-
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Cables-
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Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
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Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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Pleaaaase tell me why... I really need to know... I did try to cancel my amazon order yesterday but the package is still coming through...
Let me know why! Explain to me how a pure sine wave signal from a pure sine wave UPS would not be good because I really don’t understand!!!mlistens03 wrote: »Laelle, I mean something like a set of speakers and a integrated amplifier. I’ve got a pretty epic system (all used gear) which I’ve spent a total of around $175 on. Not using most of that stuff anymore, but it sounded great, especially for the price of Polk T15’s and a Lepai 2020, plus cables and stuff.
So basically, if your on a big time budget, you can still get great sound, because audio gear depreciates quick, meaning value for people who buy used gear. My Mission 770’s sound like a $1000 speaker, but I’ve put $75 into them. They are worth a little over double that, but still, $150 for that kind of sound? Yes please.
If you decide to do this, just ask us for suggestions and we’d be happy to help spend your money.
Thank you! I’ll see what I can do... I heard one tube preamp off of a big tower speaker and I was bummed by that class b tube sound, I expected much better sound... I pretty much then gave up on preamps and systems... but maybe it’s just because the power was not clean and it came out harsh?? Hmm... I can’t wait to try the pc or ups...!
What was it as I've never heard of a class B tube pre amp.
Unfortunately I don’t remember the model, all I know is it was a cheap 2 way tower speakers with two 15 inch woofers and I sent it back because there was no tweeter in the tweeter slot!
They restrict current.
Huh? How did a tube pre amp become a pair of speakers?Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
I have extremely good ears...
If you have extremely good ears, then you owe them something better than a soundbar. As nice as any soundbar may be, it's still inherently worse than equivalently priced actual speakers with separate components driving them.
Then again I could be wrong, I guess there might actually be people who think that soundbars sound better then regular speakers? I don't know. -
Pleaaaase tell me why... I really need to know... I did try to cancel my amazon order yesterday but the package is still coming through...
Let me know why! Explain to me how a pure sine wave signal from a pure sine wave UPS would not be good because I really don’t understand!!!mlistens03 wrote: »Laelle, I mean something like a set of speakers and a integrated amplifier. I’ve got a pretty epic system (all used gear) which I’ve spent a total of around $175 on. Not using most of that stuff anymore, but it sounded great, especially for the price of Polk T15’s and a Lepai 2020, plus cables and stuff.
So basically, if your on a big time budget, you can still get great sound, because audio gear depreciates quick, meaning value for people who buy used gear. My Mission 770’s sound like a $1000 speaker, but I’ve put $75 into them. They are worth a little over double that, but still, $150 for that kind of sound? Yes please.
If you decide to do this, just ask us for suggestions and we’d be happy to help spend your money.
Thank you! I’ll see what I can do... I heard one tube preamp off of a big tower speaker and I was bummed by that class b tube sound, I expected much better sound... I pretty much then gave up on preamps and systems... but maybe it’s just because the power was not clean and it came out harsh?? Hmm... I can’t wait to try the pc or ups...!
What was it as I've never heard of a class B tube pre amp.
Unfortunately I don’t remember the model, all I know is it was a cheap 2 way tower speakers with two 15 inch woofers and I sent it back because there was no tweeter in the tweeter slot!
They restrict current.
Huh? How did a tube pre amp become a pair of speakers?
Well it said that it used a class b preamp, it’s an active bi amp speaker that used a class b amp in it...I have extremely good ears...
If you have extremely good ears, then you owe them something better than a soundbar. As nice as any soundbar may be, it's still inherently worse than equivalently priced actual speakers with separate components driving them.
Then again I could be wrong, I guess there might actually be people who think that soundbars sound better then regular speakers? I don't know.
Hahaha yeah I guess... but you got to say that the MagniFi MAX SR is really quite something, no? To my ears, it’s just wow...!
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Then it's not a tube pre amp. Are you sure any of it is class B because most active speakers are using class D.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Push-pull audio amplifiers operate with a bias level more or less within the definition of "Class B". In practice, the "hybrid" operational point of the active devices (tubes or transistors) in audio amplifiers is usually between the bias points that correspond to "Class A" (single-ended, devices "on" all of the time, even when no signal is present) and "Class B" (device "on" only when amplifying signal). That intermediate operating point is -- you guessed it! -- "Class AB".
No problems with dymanics per se in a Class B amplifier. You won't likely find a Class B amplifier in a phone, watch, or a microwave, either.
The main issue with pure Class B relates to the behavior of a device turning on exactly at the crossover point (zero volts) of an AC signal (like music!). The glitch that a Class B push-pull amplifier adds to a signal at that crossover point is calledcrossover distortion.
Oh -- and, by the way, the most common application for pure Class B amplifiers is probably radio transmitters.
HTH.
PS A push-pull amplifier can operate in Class A, AB, or B depending on the operating conditions of the active devices (of which there must be at least two, or a multiple of two). A single-ended amplifier operates in Class A by definition, and can have one or more active devices (i.e., the output devices can be paralleled).
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The article that I read two years ago lied to me.
I thought they were used in things like watches because of their efficiency.
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mhardy6647 wrote: »Push-pull audio amplifiers operate with a bias level more or less within the definition of "Class B". In practice, the "hybrid" operational point of the active devices (tubes or transistors) in audio amplifiers is usually between the bias points that correspond to "Class A" (single-ended, devices "on" all of the time, even when no signal is present) and "Class B" (device "on" only when amplifying signal). That intermediate operating point is -- you guessed it! -- "Class AB".
No problems with dymanics per se in a Class B amplifier. You won't likely find a Class B amplifier in a phone, watch, or a microwave, either.
The main issue with pure Class B relates to the behavior of a device turning on exactly at the crossover point (zero volts) of an AC signal (like music!). The glitch that a Class B push-pull amplifier adds to a signal at that crossover point is calledcrossover distortion.
Oh -- and, by the way, the most common application for pure Class B amplifiers is probably radio transmitters.
HTH.
PS A push-pull amplifier can operate in Class A, AB, or B depending on the operating conditions of the active devices (of which there must be at least two, or a multiple of two). A single-ended amplifier operates in Class A by definition, and can have one or more active devices (i.e., the output devices can be paralleled).
I am sorry I made a mistake, it really was a class AB... like you said... I had completely forgotten, it was a tower speaker and there were fancy led lights around the woofers, can’t remember the company name, 3000 watts of power, that I remember and had a radio too... -
mhardy6647 wrote: »Push-pull audio amplifiers operate with a bias level more or less within the definition of "Class B". In practice, the "hybrid" operational point of the active devices (tubes or transistors) in audio amplifiers is usually between the bias points that correspond to "Class A" (single-ended, devices "on" all of the time, even when no signal is present) and "Class B" (device "on" only when amplifying signal). That intermediate operating point is -- you guessed it! -- "Class AB".
No problems with dymanics per se in a Class B amplifier. You won't likely find a Class B amplifier in a phone, watch, or a microwave, either.
The main issue with pure Class B relates to the behavior of a device turning on exactly at the crossover point (zero volts) of an AC signal (like music!). The glitch that a Class B push-pull amplifier adds to a signal at that crossover point is calledcrossover distortion.
Oh -- and, by the way, the most common application for pure Class B amplifiers is probably radio transmitters.
HTH.
PS A push-pull amplifier can operate in Class A, AB, or B depending on the operating conditions of the active devices (of which there must be at least two, or a multiple of two). A single-ended amplifier operates in Class A by definition, and can have one or more active devices (i.e., the output devices can be paralleled).
I am sorry I made a mistake, it really was a class AB... like you said... I had completely forgotten, it was a tower speaker and there were fancy led lights around the woofers, can’t remember the company name, 3000 watts of power, that I remember and had a radio too...
A 3000w tower with red lights around the woofers and a built in radio? Screams WHITE VAN!! -
ken brydson wrote: »mhardy6647 wrote: »Push-pull audio amplifiers operate with a bias level more or less within the definition of "Class B". In practice, the "hybrid" operational point of the active devices (tubes or transistors) in audio amplifiers is usually between the bias points that correspond to "Class A" (single-ended, devices "on" all of the time, even when no signal is present) and "Class B" (device "on" only when amplifying signal). That intermediate operating point is -- you guessed it! -- "Class AB".
No problems with dymanics per se in a Class B amplifier. You won't likely find a Class B amplifier in a phone, watch, or a microwave, either.
The main issue with pure Class B relates to the behavior of a device turning on exactly at the crossover point (zero volts) of an AC signal (like music!). The glitch that a Class B push-pull amplifier adds to a signal at that crossover point is calledcrossover distortion.
Oh -- and, by the way, the most common application for pure Class B amplifiers is probably radio transmitters.
HTH.
PS A push-pull amplifier can operate in Class A, AB, or B depending on the operating conditions of the active devices (of which there must be at least two, or a multiple of two). A single-ended amplifier operates in Class A by definition, and can have one or more active devices (i.e., the output devices can be paralleled).
I am sorry I made a mistake, it really was a class AB... like you said... I had completely forgotten, it was a tower speaker and there were fancy led lights around the woofers, can’t remember the company name, 3000 watts of power, that I remember and had a radio too...
A 3000w tower with red lights around the woofers and a built in radio? Screams WHITE VAN!!
There! I found it!
http://consumer.geminisound.com/product/as-215blu-lt/?v=3e8d115eb4b3 -
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ken brydson wrote: »mhardy6647 wrote: »Push-pull audio amplifiers operate with a bias level more or less within the definition of "Class B". In practice, the "hybrid" operational point of the active devices (tubes or transistors) in audio amplifiers is usually between the bias points that correspond to "Class A" (single-ended, devices "on" all of the time, even when no signal is present) and "Class B" (device "on" only when amplifying signal). That intermediate operating point is -- you guessed it! -- "Class AB".
No problems with dymanics per se in a Class B amplifier. You won't likely find a Class B amplifier in a phone, watch, or a microwave, either.
The main issue with pure Class B relates to the behavior of a device turning on exactly at the crossover point (zero volts) of an AC signal (like music!). The glitch that a Class B push-pull amplifier adds to a signal at that crossover point is calledcrossover distortion.
Oh -- and, by the way, the most common application for pure Class B amplifiers is probably radio transmitters.
HTH.
PS A push-pull amplifier can operate in Class A, AB, or B depending on the operating conditions of the active devices (of which there must be at least two, or a multiple of two). A single-ended amplifier operates in Class A by definition, and can have one or more active devices (i.e., the output devices can be paralleled).
I am sorry I made a mistake, it really was a class AB... like you said... I had completely forgotten, it was a tower speaker and there were fancy led lights around the woofers, can’t remember the company name, 3000 watts of power, that I remember and had a radio too...
A 3000w tower with red lights around the woofers and a built in radio? Screams WHITE VAN!!
There! I found it!
http://consumer.geminisound.com/product/as-215blu-lt/?v=3e8d115eb4b3
LOL.
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits. -
sounds like something from the likes of Pyle. Cheap junk.HT SYSTEM-
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Anyone else planning on trying out a Venom 14 sometime soon?
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Got some demo units here for only $79. And new for $95.
https://www.musicdirect.com/cables/Shunyata-Venom-14-Power-Cable?variant=ASHUNV14C13?utm_source=googlepepla&utm_medium=adwords&id=102786215605&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIl8-G78W63QIVCz9pCh05xAAzEAQYAyABEgK-CPD_BwEMusic: Oppo103 - Parasound JC2 - Parasound A21- SDA 3.1
Theater: Denon 3808 - B&K 7500/Emotiva XPA-3- RTi12, CSi5, RTiA7x4, PSW505
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