LSiM 707 and 705 on sale @ Adorama in cherry

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  • halohalo Posts: 4,752
    ab0tj wrote: »
    halo wrote: »
    Pics or it didn't happen! lol :)
    Ok fine :D
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    My next audio investment is a nice TV stand so I can organize all this stuff better...

    Looks good to me! Nice setup :smile:
  • ab0tjab0tj Posts: 40
    halo wrote: »
    Looks good to me! Nice setup :smile:
    Thanks! Sounds good too... I had a friend over and he said "yeah, but how do they sound with the subs off?" and, well, they already were. I'm excited to see how they sound after they get some break-in time on them.
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  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 1,829
    Pull them off that back wall some. At least 12”. They would have a noticeable increase in sound quality.
    2ch: PS Audio Stellar Gain pre, 4 x Linn LK240 monoblocks ( bi-amping) Elac Adante AF-61's, SVS SB16 Ultra Subwoofer, Cambridge Audio CXN v2, Rega Planar 2 with Canaro 2 subplatter, dual belt pulley and upgraded bearing, Rega Ania MC cart, Vincent PHO 701 Phono pre with Mullard NOS 12au7, Audioquest Niagara 1000, AQ Thunder, AQ red river XLR's and Victoria IC's, Wireworld Stratus and Aurora power cables, Atlas EOS power cable, Denon 2910 (as transport) Sony CPD355 Jukebox cd

    5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote

    Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
  • ab0tjab0tj Posts: 40
    joecoulson wrote: »
    Pull them off that back wall some. At least 12”. They would have a noticeable increase in sound quality.
    Hmm.... I just got out the tape measure and turns out they were right at 12" off the wall. I pulled them out a couple more inches and that actually does seem to have made a difference. I will be messing around with placement for a while now... :D
    Marantz SR6012, Parasound HCA-2200II, LSiM705 L/R, S35 center (yeah, I know...), 2x PSW505
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 10,219
    Even if you can't leave them pulled out because of lifestyle, WAF, kids etc, you'll find out quickly while listening to music, that objects between the speakers kill the sound stage image.

    Pull out and play with a little toe in
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  • JayCeeJayCee Posts: 354
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    ...objects between the speakers kill the sound stage image.

    ^^^ X 100!
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,455
    hochpt21 wrote: »
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    Even if you can't leave them pulled out because of lifestyle, WAF, kids etc, you'll find out quickly while listening to music, that objects between the speakers kill the sound stage image.

    Pull out and play with a little toe in

    I usually try the “inch at a time” trick over a period of time until they are in the middle of the living room.

    This actually worked for me! My mom didn’t want my speakers in the middle of my room, so I moved them about an inch a two a time. I got them to where I wanted them to be with no issues.
    Of course, she told me later that she noticed but decided she didn’t care since it was in my room and she didn’t have to look at it. Still got away with it, so it counts! :wink:
    Micah
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    I've always thought the goal of high-end audio was not to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Turn that darn music down' but to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Tell your friends to go home and you can practice later this week'.
  • ab0tjab0tj Posts: 40
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    Pull out and play with a little toe in
    My GF has her own place, so I can do what I want without worrying about WAF :D
    Marantz SR6012, Parasound HCA-2200II, LSiM705 L/R, S35 center (yeah, I know...), 2x PSW505
  • mark090852mark090852 Posts: 853
    ab0tj wrote: »
    Got my 705's set up and working on the break-in before I make any judgements on the sound. If anyone in Western CO wants a listen, let me know.

    @ab0tj

    Just curious. Where in Western Colorado? We have a house in Grand Junction.
    McIntosh MA252 Integrated Amp, LUMIN D2 Network Music Player, Yamaha Aventage RX-A840 receiver, Emotiva XPA Gen3 2 channel amp, Polk LSiM 703 speakers. Oppo UDP-203 Blu-Ray player, Polk LSiM 705 speakers. Polk Signature S20 speakers.
  • ab0tjab0tj Posts: 40
    mark090852 wrote: »
    Just curious. Where in Western Colorado? We have a house in Grand Junction.
    Grand Junction, on the east side of town
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  • mark090852mark090852 Posts: 853
    ab0tj wrote: »
    mark090852 wrote: »
    Just curious. Where in Western Colorado? We have a house in Grand Junction.
    Grand Junction, on the east side of town

    We're in Orchard Mesa. Spyglass Ridge.
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  • ab0tjab0tj Posts: 40
    mark090852 wrote: »
    We're in Orchard Mesa. Spyglass Ridge.
    I actually used to love up there! Well, on the way up that hill anyway.
    Marantz SR6012, Parasound HCA-2200II, LSiM705 L/R, S35 center (yeah, I know...), 2x PSW505
  • mark090852mark090852 Posts: 853
    ab0tj wrote: »
    mark090852 wrote: »
    We're in Orchard Mesa. Spyglass Ridge.
    I actually used to love up there! Well, on the way up that hill anyway.

    Small world.
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  • DarqueKnightDarqueKnight Posts: 6,401
    The long-awaited 705/707 shootout has finished and the 705s didn't last one round.

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    Figure 1. My 705s were shipped in their manufacturer's cartons. My 707s were shipped in nice double walled outer boxes.

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    Figure 2. The manufacturer's boxes held up well through UPS's shipping channels.

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    Figure 3. Side by side.

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    Figure 4. Then: Home theater with LSiM 705 front speakers.

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    Figure 5. Now: Home theater with LSiM 707 front speakers.

    There was some brightness and hissy sibilance on some songs, but that went away after six hours of continuous play.

    Detriments: None so far.

    Benefits:

    1. Wider and deeper sound stage.
    2. More image weight at sides of the sound stage.
    3. More clarity, detail, and bass weight and definition.
    4. More cohesive integration with the center channel speaker, which uses the same tweeter, midrange driver, and midwoofer drivers.
    5. A more immersive experience with multichannel music.
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  • Toolfan66Toolfan66 Posts: 14,019
    edited August 2018
    Sade??
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 1,829
    Pull those guys off that back wall and watch them open way up.
    2ch: PS Audio Stellar Gain pre, 4 x Linn LK240 monoblocks ( bi-amping) Elac Adante AF-61's, SVS SB16 Ultra Subwoofer, Cambridge Audio CXN v2, Rega Planar 2 with Canaro 2 subplatter, dual belt pulley and upgraded bearing, Rega Ania MC cart, Vincent PHO 701 Phono pre with Mullard NOS 12au7, Audioquest Niagara 1000, AQ Thunder, AQ red river XLR's and Victoria IC's, Wireworld Stratus and Aurora power cables, Atlas EOS power cable, Denon 2910 (as transport) Sony CPD355 Jukebox cd

    5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote

    Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
  • DarqueKnightDarqueKnight Posts: 6,401
    edited August 2018
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    Sade??

    Good eye! Yes, that's Sade's "Bring Me Home Live 2011" Blu-ray.
    joecoulson wrote: »
    Pull those guys off that back wall and watch them open way up.

    I don't doubt that but...

    These 707s are primarily used for home theater and multichannel music, so I need the fronts to be in the same plane as the center channel. The rear of each speaker is 7.5" from the rear wall.
    "So hot it burns Mice!"~DK
    "Polk SDA-SRSs are hopelessly out of date both sonically and technologically... I see no value whatsoever in older SDA speakers."~Audio Asylum Member
    "Knowledge, without understanding, is a path to failure."~DK
    "Those who irrationally rail against something or someone that is no threat to them, actually desire (or desire to be like) the thing or person they are railing against."~DK
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 1,829
    In my op, you could run Audyssey with them pulled forward to get the accurate measurements and then preload those to align the sound rather than the speaker. Just my 2c
    2ch: PS Audio Stellar Gain pre, 4 x Linn LK240 monoblocks ( bi-amping) Elac Adante AF-61's, SVS SB16 Ultra Subwoofer, Cambridge Audio CXN v2, Rega Planar 2 with Canaro 2 subplatter, dual belt pulley and upgraded bearing, Rega Ania MC cart, Vincent PHO 701 Phono pre with Mullard NOS 12au7, Audioquest Niagara 1000, AQ Thunder, AQ red river XLR's and Victoria IC's, Wireworld Stratus and Aurora power cables, Atlas EOS power cable, Denon 2910 (as transport) Sony CPD355 Jukebox cd

    5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote

    Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 4,545
    joecoulson wrote: »
    Pull those guys off that back wall and watch them open way up.

    I am going to disagree with this. In the 2 rooms i tried the 705's i had on, over a foot from the back seamed to make them sound not as strong
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  • halohalo Posts: 4,752
    erniejade wrote: »
    I am going to disagree with this. In the 2 rooms i tried the 705's i had on, over a foot from the back seamed to make them sound not as strong

    The backs of the speaker cabinets on mine are over a foot away from the wall and they sound very good. On recordings with a lot of bass, they sound great; the bass is not boomy or flabby or bloated.
  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 4,545
    The down firing port helps with that so you can put them a foot away without making them too boomy.
    Not every room is created equal thats for darn sure.
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  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 1,829
    Agreed. I just know for my room, they didn’t open up the soundstage and have a balanced range until they came off the back wall. I’m only sitting 9’ away from the and my couch is not against a back wall. In fact it’s more middle of the room.
    2ch: PS Audio Stellar Gain pre, 4 x Linn LK240 monoblocks ( bi-amping) Elac Adante AF-61's, SVS SB16 Ultra Subwoofer, Cambridge Audio CXN v2, Rega Planar 2 with Canaro 2 subplatter, dual belt pulley and upgraded bearing, Rega Ania MC cart, Vincent PHO 701 Phono pre with Mullard NOS 12au7, Audioquest Niagara 1000, AQ Thunder, AQ red river XLR's and Victoria IC's, Wireworld Stratus and Aurora power cables, Atlas EOS power cable, Denon 2910 (as transport) Sony CPD355 Jukebox cd

    5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote

    Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,354
    erniejade wrote: »
    The down firing port helps with that so you can put them a foot away without making them too boomy.
    Not every room is created equal thats for darn sure.

    And your room should never have been created. Period.
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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,737
    DSkip wrote: »

    And your room should never have been created. Period.

    Damn!

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  • Toolfan66Toolfan66 Posts: 14,019
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