Lightweight gear

mantismantis Posts: 15,407
edited July 2018 in Electronics
You know I'm off from work today, Mondays are one of my off days and my Oppo is coming today.
I pulled out the Sony UDP-X700 which I have not really touched other then using it from my rack. I can't believe I actually installed this sissy looking light weight piece of gear into my system.
What the hell happened to me and the industry that this thing is except able? I hit home after a few old threads I was looking at with some of my older gear in place like my B&K AVR307, Rotel RMB-1095 amp and other stuff like my Cambridge Audio Azur Blu Ray player etc. Now I have this thing. I feel ashamed on some levels and relieved on others thats it's finally getting out.
NEVER again will I buy anything like this. I'm not knocking it's performance as for the money it works great but it's just not my speed.

I think over the next year or so I'm gonna totally revamp my system again with ONLY MANLY equipment. Separates , huge power supplies and maybe even going back to a conventional style non powered tower speaker. Monitor Audio has caught my attention and Revel has for years now so I may head down that route. The LSIM's would be cool but I never got to experience the floor standers and as usual no one around here has them on display to check out. That is another dieing art form.

Sorry for the rant I'm just hating on todays quality gear a bit. New formats cheaper but gear. I still can't believe I installed the X700....... I need a mirror.
Dan
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,010
    Weight, schmeight.
    If it doesn't use high enough voltage for the plate supply to the outputs to be able to kill you, it's not really worthy of consideration.

    16187794927_269abfcf2c_b.jpgDSC_0132 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    B)



  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 4,251
    There was a time when it was kinda cool to have a "sissy bar" on your bike. Nowadays, you wouldn't want to go for a beer at a "sissy bar". Or maybe you would? :/ *shrug*

    a2eioadmz4to.jpg
  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,289
    edited July 2018
    ^^That's Cool, that kid has attitude.

    Did you get beat up much King?
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    All TV's sound enhanced by Polk Magnfi Mini's.

    Other; S60'S, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All speakers have had crossover rebuilds, resulting in a small fortune invested in Sonicaps, and tweeter upgrades.

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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 4,251
    Did you get beat up much King?

    Are you asking me? If so, then no, never.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,010
    Viking64 wrote: »
    There was a time when it was kinda cool to have a "sissy bar" on your bike. Nowadays, you wouldn't want to go for a beer at a "sissy bar". Or maybe you would? :/ *shrug*

    a2eioadmz4to.jpg

    Portrait of the young Elon Musk.

    B)
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,343
    that chopper has a sugar bear front end....NICE!!
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 4,251
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Portrait of the young Elon Musk.

    B)
    I know who that is, but I don't get the reference. :/
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 4,251
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    that chopper has a sugar bear front end....NICE!!

    If I rode through the neighborhood on that thing 45 years ago, my friends would pass-out from envy. :p
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,010
    Viking64 wrote: »
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Portrait of the young Elon Musk.

    B)
    I know who that is, but I don't get the reference. :/

    I just looked at the kid's face and decided that, rather than, say, suggest it's a photograph of a young Putin (or, I dunno, some other punk/bad guy), it would be amusingly ironic to suggest one of the Silicon Valley gazillionaires. You know, kid turned out OK kinda vibe.

    I guess the young Elon Musk would've had a custom submarine, though.
    https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/a22150734/elon-musks-mad-mini-submarine-didnt-help-thai-cave-rescue/
  • 55LS7055LS70 Posts: 176
    I don't think that was available at the Schwinn dealer. Somebody made that and it drips with "cool". To whoever that person is "Well done!"
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  • JstasJstas Posts: 13,789
    Some of this non-"sissy gear", if you open it up, you'll find a PCB, reasonable sized transformers and such and a zinc plate stuck permanently to the case with mastic and sound damper all over the case.

    Why?

    Because people like you need something to "feel" like "quality" by making it weigh 3 times as much as it has to.

    In a pre-amp, amplifier, receiver, etc, I would expect weightiness.

    There's no need for a CD/DVD/Blu-Ray player or tuner or even a DAC to weigh 17,000 pounds.
    You're just jealous 'cause the voices don't talk to you!
  • mantismantis Posts: 15,407
    I am confident enough in my masculinity that I would be comfortable using a X700 or driving a Miata.
    Cool when you need it, I have the X700 here it's like brand new. I'll give you a stupid deal on it.

    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,010
    Jstas wrote: »
    Some of this non-"sissy gear", if you open it up, you'll find a PCB, reasonable sized transformers and such and a zinc plate stuck permanently to the case with mastic and sound damper all over the case.

    Why?

    Because people like you need something to "feel" like "quality" by making it weigh 3 times as much as it has to.

    In a pre-amp, amplifier, receiver, etc, I would expect weightiness.

    There's no need for a CD/DVD/Blu-Ray player or tuner or even a DAC to weigh 17,000 pounds.

    Electrovoice reputedly did this with a component some years (decades, now) back.
  • mantismantis Posts: 15,407
    I don't need my gear to weigh more then it needs to be but I do enjoy a solid piece of gear.
    Just look at these 2 Blu ray players and tell me which one you would rather own?oqjq3dw11s5e.jpg
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,138
    Whichever one has better picture quality.
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  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,289
    mantis wrote: »
    I am confident enough in my masculinity that I would be comfortable using a X700 or driving a Miata.
    Cool when you need it, I have the X700 here it's like brand new. I'll give you a stupid deal on it.

    Actually I am hoping to snag a 203 as I am on the list. Might take up your offer on the X700 for another location.
    2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk SDA2BTL's; Cables ZU Mission IC's, SC and power cords, all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.

    All TV's sound enhanced by Polk Magnfi Mini's.

    Other; S60'S, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All speakers have had crossover rebuilds, resulting in a small fortune invested in Sonicaps, and tweeter upgrades.

    Political memes posted as fact and accepted as fact, are sign language of the ignorant, for the ignorant

    tonyb said " but even socialists can do a good thing here and there

    Social media makes dumb people dumber and smart people dumb then dumber.
  • mantismantis Posts: 15,407
    According to some people int he AVS Forums the X700 performance is close to the Oppo for Picture quality. I'm gonna find that out myself.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • mantismantis Posts: 15,407
    mantis wrote: »
    I am confident enough in my masculinity that I would be comfortable using a X700 or driving a Miata.
    Cool when you need it, I have the X700 here it's like brand new. I'll give you a stupid deal on it.

    Actually I am hoping to snag a 203 as I am on the list. Might take up your offer on the X700 for another location.
    I'll take $175 Shipped to your door if you live in the USA.

    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 4,251
    ^^That's Cool, that kid has attitude.

    Did you get beat up much King?

    So, now you're replacing the comment you edited out? Internetz....serious business. :p
  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,289
    ^^I accidently deleted that line while adding the other. Posting on a phone while in the airport, I find it very arduous.
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    All TV's sound enhanced by Polk Magnfi Mini's.

    Other; S60'S, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All speakers have had crossover rebuilds, resulting in a small fortune invested in Sonicaps, and tweeter upgrades.

    Political memes posted as fact and accepted as fact, are sign language of the ignorant, for the ignorant

    tonyb said " but even socialists can do a good thing here and there

    Social media makes dumb people dumber and smart people dumb then dumber.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,010
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Some of this non-"sissy gear", if you open it up, you'll find a PCB, reasonable sized transformers and such and a zinc plate stuck permanently to the case with mastic and sound damper all over the case.

    Why?

    Because people like you need something to "feel" like "quality" by making it weigh 3 times as much as it has to.

    In a pre-amp, amplifier, receiver, etc, I would expect weightiness.

    There's no need for a CD/DVD/Blu-Ray player or tuner or even a DAC to weigh 17,000 pounds.

    Electrovoice reputedly did this with a component some years (decades, now) back.

    Well -- here's the flimsy bit of evidence that a quick search turned up for this story... it may well be apocryphal :p

    http://db.audioasylum.com/mhtml/m.html?forum=vintage&n=41061&highlight=EV+metal+weight&r=&search_url=/default.mpl?searchtext=EV+%2Bmetal+%2Bweight&b=AND&topic=&topics_only=N&author=&date1=&date2=&slowmessage=&ip=&sort=score&sortOrder=DESC&sortRank=Forum&forum=ALL
  • JstasJstas Posts: 13,789
    mantis wrote: »
    I don't need my gear to weigh more then it needs to be but I do enjoy a solid piece of gear.
    Just look at these 2 Blu ray players and tell me which one you would rather own?oqjq3dw11s5e.jpg

    The Sony, honestly. It fits in a smaller spot and will work easily with my universal remote.

    As long as it has a digital output, if the picture quality and processing power are equivalent to the Oppo then there's really no need to cross shop them. The Sony is significantly cheaper than the Oppo which makes it a better value. It's a digital signal afterall so the part that matters most is what is decoding those signals for you.

    Also, Sony has been known, since the start of Blu-Ray, to be putting out top notch players. Hell, I know quite a few people who own Sony PlayStation 3's solely because it was the best Blu-Ray player you could buy on the market at the time and for several years afterwards too.
    You're just jealous 'cause the voices don't talk to you!
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,696
    I've found over the many years that solidly built heavy weight gear performs better than the light weight stuff.
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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 4,251
    All this talk about sissy gear has made Sissy angry. :o

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  • JstasJstas Posts: 13,789
    Maybe.
    You're just jealous 'cause the voices don't talk to you!
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,010
    F1nut wrote: »
    I've found over the many years that solidly built heavy weight gear performs better than the light weight stuff.

    Strong positive correlation fer shure.
  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,289
    edited July 2018
    Could the same be said about women? I have only married or dated the light weight, skinny ones.
    2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk SDA2BTL's; Cables ZU Mission IC's, SC and power cords, all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.

    All TV's sound enhanced by Polk Magnfi Mini's.

    Other; S60'S, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All speakers have had crossover rebuilds, resulting in a small fortune invested in Sonicaps, and tweeter upgrades.

    Political memes posted as fact and accepted as fact, are sign language of the ignorant, for the ignorant

    tonyb said " but even socialists can do a good thing here and there

    Social media makes dumb people dumber and smart people dumb then dumber.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,010
    Could the same be said about women? I have only married or dated the light weight, skinny ones.

    oh, I so ain't touchin' that one...
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 10,585
    Could the same be said about women? I have only married or dated the light weight, skinny ones.

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