1975 Hurst/Olds... opinions sought
nooshinjohn
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Looking at this car over on EBay...
Up for sale is my Hurst Olds. This car could easily be a daily driver, as it runs and handles very well. This car gets thumbs up everywhere we take her. Again, you will feel very comfortable driving this car as it is very mechanically sound. This olds is really a W25 with the 350 engine, but was badget a W30 after a repaint. The T-tops and roof gaskets are still in very good condition, no cracks in the glass, and they still seal very well. Power windows work well. The trans shifts smooth as glass. There are 5 matching tires that are in very good condition. Lights and signals work as they should. Paint is water spotted, so a good detail job would be in order. Swivel seats work well, but all seats need new covers, carpet is tired but usable. Headliner is original, has been cleaned, but is 43 years old and showing its age. Most interior plastics are pretty decent, as I have done my best to replace the sunbaked originals. Not much available out there for these cars. Solid trunk floor. Solid cabin floors except under rear seat, seat belts. For some reason, under the retractors the floor mounts for rust, but everything else is very solid. Small repairs were made to lower corner of rear quarters done very well, not just filled with bondo. This car is very worthy of being taken to the next level or just to drive and joy as is. Again, a nice daily driver. The A/C is all still present and I believe a new belt and a recharge she'll blow cold. Radio needs new rear speakers
He is looking at 5k or thereabouts for it.... thoughts anyone?
Up for sale is my Hurst Olds. This car could easily be a daily driver, as it runs and handles very well. This car gets thumbs up everywhere we take her. Again, you will feel very comfortable driving this car as it is very mechanically sound. This olds is really a W25 with the 350 engine, but was badget a W30 after a repaint. The T-tops and roof gaskets are still in very good condition, no cracks in the glass, and they still seal very well. Power windows work well. The trans shifts smooth as glass. There are 5 matching tires that are in very good condition. Lights and signals work as they should. Paint is water spotted, so a good detail job would be in order. Swivel seats work well, but all seats need new covers, carpet is tired but usable. Headliner is original, has been cleaned, but is 43 years old and showing its age. Most interior plastics are pretty decent, as I have done my best to replace the sunbaked originals. Not much available out there for these cars. Solid trunk floor. Solid cabin floors except under rear seat, seat belts. For some reason, under the retractors the floor mounts for rust, but everything else is very solid. Small repairs were made to lower corner of rear quarters done very well, not just filled with bondo. This car is very worthy of being taken to the next level or just to drive and joy as is. Again, a nice daily driver. The A/C is all still present and I believe a new belt and a recharge she'll blow cold. Radio needs new rear speakers
He is looking at 5k or thereabouts for it.... thoughts anyone?
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Love it! Looks real solid. Sure a facsimile hurst, but not an uncommon repaint scheme. Good cruiser!
The rust at the seat belts may be a telltale that there could be elsewhere. If you replace the carpet, you’ll be able to inspect the floor.
The T-tops leaked notoriously. Not an issue for you Californians. Except when washing the car!
Swivel seats - cool!
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It’s a real deal Hurst. Just because it’s low on horsepower does not take that away from it. They were the first GM to use the glass panel T-Tops.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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Put some hydraulics on it, and bounce up and down the highway. Don’t forget the boom boom stereo. Enjoy.
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Come out to Boys Republic on Saturday and see if anything else is available that you might want before pulling the trigger.
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I had a couple of Grand Prix vehicles of similar year / model. Notorious for rust on th bottom of the rear quarter panels and bottom of the doors.
Those cars rode very well. Didn't "Handle" very well (It's a boat after all). Low on horsepower. Not very good gas mileage. Catalytic converters means emissions inspections. 1969 or 1970 models will have a similar body style and a lot more power.Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
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I like it! A little work to get her into tip top shape, but it will be worth it, I’m sure.nooshinjohn wrote: »There are 5 matching tires
5 tires? Where is the fifth one? 
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5k, not too bad. I local guy wanted 3k for a 1973 Nova that needed
everything (solid car though, no rust thru). You could do a lot to
improve performance without ruining the vintage vibe.
But this isn't really the car for that.
Here in Memphis they'd dump 3k into big rims and drive it."The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson -
Be sure to check under the vinyl top portion, 50/50 chance the roof and pillars have rotted away. I would pass on that car. Spend good money and still don't have anything.
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I bought a 1979 white on gold Hurst Olds W-30 new - sticker was $9995 and I thought what am I doing paying so much for a car. Anyway, I enjoyed it but the damn emissions on it left a 350 cid, HO motor with a Holley 4 barrel and dual exhaust outputting only 175HP, which, at the time, has huge. The gated shifter witht he 400 hydramatic tranny was slick. Bought if rom Henry Butts Olds in Dallas (The same Henry Butts as H-E-B grocery store fame).[
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nooshinjohn wrote: »It’s a real deal Hurst. Just because it’s low on horsepower does not take that away from it. They were the first GM to use the glass panel T-Tops.
Cool! Thanks for the clarification. 5k sounds like a deal. For 5k in Michigan you wouldn’t find much more than a rust bucket!Basement: Polk SDA SRS 1.2tl's, Cary SLP-05 Pre with ultimate upgrade,McIntosh MCD301 CD/SACD player, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Cambridge 851N streamer, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Silnote Morpheus Ref2, Series2 Digital Cables, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Series2 XLR's, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
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Those cars rode very well. Didn't "Handle" very well (It's a boat after all). Low on horsepower. Not very good gas mileage. Catalytic converters means emissions inspections. 1969 or 1970 models will have a similar body style and a lot more power.
They are completely different body styles, and in California, the car does not need to be inspected any longer for smog, so the first thing to do is cut the cat, remove the smog pump and let it breath again. that should be good enough for 30 ponies right there.Post edited by nooshinjohn onThe Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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Didn't you have a project car already?
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My first car was a '76 Cutlass with those T-tops. They did leak...more than a bit. Mine wasn't a Supreme, but my dad (body guy) painted it with the Hurst black/silver/red scheme, so it looked the part. We actually stripped the interior as well, and replaced it with a Brougham interior...velour
Boy, if that thing could talk...particularly the back seat 
Check for oil leaks and/or the tell-tale blue smoke from the exhaust, which would indicate bad rings. I am also leery of the A/C comment, "The A/C is all still present and I believe a new belt and a recharge she'll blow cold." Hmmm...believe/hope/fingers-crossed?"This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
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I'm not a fan of mid 70's cars.... 69, 70 71Post edited by Mikey081057 onMy New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160
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I am also leery of the A/C comment, "The A/C is all still present and I believe a new belt and a recharge she'll blow cold."
Me too. The compressor was redone for R134, but everything else is original. my guess is at 43 years old, the lines need to be replaced at the very least.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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*******The best way to predict the future is to invent it.
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TTops and sunroofs on American cars leaked in the 70's & 80's... Used to call them BIRD BATHSMy New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160
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Come on man... don't hide behind an asterisk.motorhead43026 wrote: »*******
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Every vintage car is a project. They all have idiosyncrasies, even when completed. That's part of the fun. They have character, and style! Cars nowadays are so optimized, with few exceptions, they look generic.
Tis the season here in Michigan. Every weekend there is a car show, cruise event, etc.
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nooshinjohn wrote: »
Come on man... don't hide behind an asterisk.motorhead43026 wrote: »*******
That was me telling Mikey wrong thread....lol.
But, while I have your attention, make sure that thing is not a rust bucket. That body style is prone to all kinds of rust issues, even cars out west.
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Especially bad during a summer thunderstorm, and uncomfortable cabin conditions when the temp is 90+ degrees outside. However, it does create a good growing environment...like a little greenhouse. I once had something sprout in my floorboard. Funny-looking little seedling with five leavesMikey081057 wrote: »TTops and sunroofs on American cars leaked in the 70's & 80's... Used to call them BIRD BATHS
I can't imagine how that happened. "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
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nooshinjohn wrote: »
Ah, I see. Well John I'll be honest, that Olds is not a pretty car either.Political Correctness'.........defined
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nooshinjohn wrote: »
Ah, I see. Well John I'll be honest, that Olds is not a pretty car either.
This coming from a guy who bought his first car after is was carved out of a quarry...
It is one of the better looking cars to come out of the 70's, IMHO, and has potential to be a fun car to drive, with the right upgrades and mods.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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Just throw all the the motor away and buy a crate motor. Get a new rear end and strip it down the bare metal and start over complete frame off restoration and get a new transmission....
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I am not sure a car of that vintage could ever recover all of the cost of all of that work no?
It's not a '65 GTOMy New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160
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nor is it a 1970 plum crazy purple Road Runner with a 440 6 pack.
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I say go to a Mecum Auto auction and buy something both of you like and that somebody else has done all the work. Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
