Wilson Tune Tot

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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    kharp1 wrote: »
    I've recently come to the conclusion that I'm done wasting my time and money chasing the ultimate sound. I'm settling with good, solid equipment and saying to heck with all the madness. They've lost their dam minds.

    This is exactly how I feel. I’ve made some nice additions to my system that have it sounding spectacular. A friend of mine owns an audio shop, So I listen to a lot of systems in the 6 figure range. When I go home and turn mine on, I don’t feel as though I’m missing anything. Hopefully nothing breaks lol

    I have a few friends who are nuts, they swap gear in and out like they are changing socks. I don’t understand it. I do know that I know it can be addicting, but the financial loss must be crazy.

    I bet it’s very addicting.
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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
    edited May 2018
    Having said that...I still want to hear them, lol...It's a sickness. I CAN"T HELP IT!
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,284
    edited May 2018
    kharp1 wrote: »
    Having said that...I still want to hear them, lol...It's a sickness. I CAN"T HELP IT!

    Just like looking at a nice pair of .....oh never mind :p
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    kharp1 wrote: »
    Having said that...I still want to hear them, lol...It's a sickness. I CAN"T HELP IT!

    Dang it... me too
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    DSkip wrote: »
    The answer to the A3?

    LOL. A desk top speaker versus a floor stander. I don’t think so.

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  • halen
    halen Posts: 710
    Audio concepts here are displaying these. I refuse to go unless our local Paul goes with me. They are too damn busy all the damn time.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    edited May 2018
    halen wrote: »
    Audio concepts here are displaying these. I refuse to go unless our local Paul goes with me. They are too damn busy all the damn time.

    You spend 10k on what appears to be over priced mini monitors and I will fly back out there and slap you upside the head, hold you down while the wife beats you silly too, leave my phone in the taxi...again, and not think twice about it. ;)

    ....and I still got no frickin' BBQ out there !!! Now I'm stoked....go buy 'em....give me something to do. :)
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,284
    Pffft, AC will never get a dime from me. Luther and John paid them a visit...let's say they weren't impressed with the sales guys...I'll leave it at that
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    Pffft, AC will never get a dime from me. Luther and John paid them a visit...let's say they weren't impressed with the sales guys...I'll leave it at that

    Audio sales guys can be just like used car salesmen. You find a good one, hold on to them.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,284
    edited May 2018
    They got the same 2 sales guys I did, someone needs to teach them not to read a book by it's cover ;)

    I was ready to drop well over $10k on a dac a couple years ago,
    hmm Halen and I were very cool, laid back, and knowledgeable, and we both felt snubbed
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    They got the same 2 sales guys I did, someone needs to teach them not to read a book by it's cover ;)

    I was ready to drop well over $10k on a dac a couple years ago,
    hmm Halen and I were very cool, laid back, and knowledgeable, and we both felt snubbed

    Don’t worry it’s not just you guys.

    They snubbed me too while I was looking at Wilson Alexia. So I bought the Strads and they were not happy when they found out.

    They also snubbed my friend who was looking at Wilson Sabrina.

    And they would barely let our audiophile group in to listen privately to the Wilson Alexx even as one of our members requested as he was literally checking out and paying for a pair of Wilson Sasha 2.

    My good friend made a comment, “someone needs to teach these guys a lesson in sales.”

    The biggest whale in our group buys from AC but he told me straight up he only deals with the owner Mark and not the minions who are useless.
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,901
    halen wrote: »
    Audio concepts here are displaying these. I refuse to go unless our local Paul goes with me. They are too damn busy all the damn time.

    ha !, busy doing nothing but ignoring you.
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    Joey_V wrote: »
    I would like to experience one, but the price is absurd and everything you see is "optional".

    The price is not absurd relative to the market segment that Wilson serves. I don't expect Ferrari to ever offer an "affordable" car to market. I don't expect Wilson Audio to ever offer an "affordable" loudspeaker to market.

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,801
    There was a time that Ferrari offered a value line. In the old days, if it didn't have a V-12, it wasn't a Ferrari -- it was a Dino.

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    Heck, even JBL had Bolivar...

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    and Bose had their Interaudio brand - for the bottom-feeders ;)

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    Besides, I cannot think of Wilson loudspeakers without thinkin' of this guy.

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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,151
    Yep.

    Professional Sports players and High-level income earners are Wilson's targets for sure. :p


    I was thinking of buying $12K B&W speakers from our local high-end audio store.

    The owner and main sales man (who's know for being rude and like others have said, pre-judgemental) sold me the wrong spikes for a set of speakers he used to sell. I went in to tell him about them not fitting, he told me to go to Lowes or somewhere to get adaptors.

    I swore he'd never get a big sale from me when the time came! He doesn't know how close I came to buying those big B&W's. ;)

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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    Tony M wrote: »
    Yep.

    Professional Sports players and High-level income earners are Wilson's targets for sure. :p


    I was thinking of buying $12K B&W speakers from our local high-end audio store.

    The owner and main sales man (who's know for being rude and like others have said, pre-judgemental) sold me the wrong spikes for a set of speakers he used to sell. I went in to tell him about them not fitting, he told me to go to Lowes or somewhere to get adaptors.

    I swore he'd never get a big sale from me when the time came! He doesn't know how close I came to buying those big B&W's. ;)

    I have several audiophile friends who text me on the daily, a few are wilson owners and run in the group we have locally. Even they can't believe that Wilson really launched a set of computer speakers (excuse me, executive suite speakers) for $10,000 without even including the base stand or the grill.


    Imagine that, no grill on a near $10,000 unit.

    The Sabrina filled a void for a small easy to place floor stander, it is about 8x the volume of these Tots and it costs $15700.

    These tots should have been $7000 at most, and included the grills. At $10,000 I find this to be highway robbery. They're just really pushing the prices as high up as they can.


    I don't blame them. Make the money. A lot of money in Asia... that's where a lot of these will go.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,151
    I've been waiting to see the Golden Ear Reference TOTL speakers to go on sale or have a price drop but Nooooo. I guess as long as they're selling, they'll hold on their pricing. ;):(:'(
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  • DarqueKnight
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    I keep thinking about all the mid to high five figure and six figure speakers at AXPONA that made me and my friend either scratch our heads in bewilderment...or outright ran us out of the room.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    DarqueKnight wrote: »
    I keep thinking about all the mid to high five figure and six figure speakers at AXPONA that made me and my friend either scratch our heads in bewilderment...or outright ran us out of the room.

    Room acoustics are one.

    And playing the price card is the other.

    By that I mean when manufacturers build TO A PRICE rather than build to a sound. I have read numerous times how they want to build a speaker set for Asia... it’s gotta be big and grand and flashy and expensive.

    Asia is where all these hyper expensive units go. Where even the affluent in the USA don’t play. A totally different sandbox altogether.

    I should’ve stayed in Asia
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,801
    edited May 2018
    I reckon that a lot of the ultra-high-end (high priced) stuff also ends up in places like Saudi Arabia & the United Arab Emirates. Maybe some in Russian oligarchs' pads, too(?).
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,284
    DarqueKnight wrote: »
    I keep thinking about all the mid to high five figure and six figure speakers at AXPONA that made me and my friend either scratch our heads in bewilderment...or outright ran us out of the room.

    Scaena's fall in that category IMHO
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    There was a time that Ferrari offered a value line. In the old days, if it didn't have a V-12, it wasn't a Ferrari -- it was a Dino.

    I remember those. They were often referred to in the U.S. as "Dino Ferraris" or "Ferrari Dinos". But that was like referring to a Toyota Camry as a "Lexus Toyota" or "Toyota Lexus".

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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    Everything audio cost so much it does become a balancing act to get what you want at a reasonable price. While I have no need for computer speakers, I bet the Tiny Tot would do a good job. Not sure whether it will do a $10K job. :)

    At this point, I want to upgrade my Lumin, my Typhon, my HT front speakers, and the center channel. The new Lumin X1 is rumored to have a list price of $14K (I hope it is lower), the new Typhon QR is $9K list, and the Magico A3 is $10K list. The Magico center channel hasn’t been announced yet, so no idea of its price. While I will get this gear for less than list, it still is a lot. Need more beer drinking time to think about this move. :)
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Everything audio cost so much it does become a balancing act to get what you want at a reasonable price. While I have no need for computer speakers, I bet the Tiny Tot would do a good job. Not sure whether it will do a $10K job. :)

    At this point, I want to upgrade my Lumin, my Typhon, my HT front speakers, and the center channel. The new Lumin X1 is rumored to have a list price of $14K (I hope it is lower), the new Typhon QR is $9K list, and the Magico A3 is $10K list. The Magico center channel hasn’t been announced yet, so no idea of its price. While I will get this gear for less than list, it still is a lot. Need more beer drinking time to think about this move. :)

    I agree, the prices are getting absurd... seems like high end manufacturers are just feeding off each other.

    Honestly the tech is better but not magnitudes better. I recall in 2008 I never heard of a bookshelf that cost >$20,000 until the Magico Mini II was introduced.

    Since then, everyone has tried to make a bookshelf at that price point. It’s not that tech and cost of manufacture be that much more, but seems like if the cherry has been popped, it’s a free for all.
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  • OldSchoolPolk
    OldSchoolPolk Posts: 159
    One could save $9,500 and go for the SVS Prime Wireless pair. I'm sure (?) the Wilsons sound better, but what tips the scale for me is the SVS come with grills. Can you say "value!"
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    edited May 2018
    OldSchoolPolk wrote: »
    One could save $9,500 and go for the SVS Prime Wireless pair. I'm sure (?) the Wilsons sound better, but what tips the scale for me is the SVS come with grills. Can you say "value!"

    Lol the grills

    That does get to me, I’ve never seen a speaker where the grill was optional. Before you know it, all Wilson speakers will have optional grills once they market-test this Tune Tot product

    It’s like getting stabbed... then the knife is rotated and twisted.
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,901
    edited May 2018
    revel had a speaker where the grill that covered the tweeter and mid range was optional.
    the performa f30
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    marvda1 wrote: »
    revel had a speaker where the grill that covered the tweeter and mid range was optional.
    the performa f30

    Really.

    Bet it wasn’t $300.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,284
    Seriously though witha name like Tune ToT...they'd be perfect for your kids Joey
    It's says it right in the name ;)
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,901
    Joey_V wrote: »
    marvda1 wrote: »
    revel had a speaker where the grill that covered the tweeter and mid range was optional.
    the performa f30

    Really.

    Bet it wasn’t $300.

    found it, grills were $240
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