New interconnect options for SDA

chandler9a
chandler9a Posts: 878
in Vintage Speakers
Hi all, I have a pair of SDA SRS 2's that I need to have a new interconnect cable built. I am wondering if these will work for the Blade/Blade version?

https://www.parts-express.com/neutrik-nlt4mp-bag-speakon-stx-4-pole-male-chassis-connector-black-chrome-metal-housing--092-340

https://www.parts-express.com/neutrik-nlt4fx-bag-speakon-stx-4-pole-female-cable-connector-black-chrome-metal-housing--092-336

I believe they work for pin/blade SDAs which I also need but I need to replace the Blade/Blade version first.

Thanks as always.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,546
    edited July 2017 Answer ✓
    The Neutrik connectors will work for either SDA version.

    Get this socket instead, it's air tight. https://www.parts-express.com/neutrik-nl4mp-uc-speakon-connector-4-pole-panel-mount--092-067#lblProductDetails
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  • Stew
    Stew Posts: 645
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    The NLT4FX-BAG works great as long as you plan to solder the connections (up to 10 ga.). The NL4FX has set screws but only accepts 12 ga. and requires a special screwdriver (Pozidriv #1).
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  • dkfreebird
    dkfreebird Posts: 1,186
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    Same cable for the interconnect if you can.
    2 Channel
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    North Star Intenso Dac
    Auralic Aries Mini Streamer
    Oppo 103
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  • dkfreebird
    dkfreebird Posts: 1,186
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    Yes,you have to make the hole bigger. Drill out the rivets that hold the old socket in. I used a dremel to enlarge the hole
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    North Star Intenso Dac
    Auralic Aries Mini Streamer
    Oppo 103
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    Wireworld Equinox 7 interconnects
    Wireworld Equinox 7 Speaker Cables and Jumpers

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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    Okay thanks, that answers that.

    Any recommendations on what cable to use? I use modest Audioquest type 4 speaker cable for the SDAs at the moment.
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  • codycatalist
    codycatalist Posts: 2,662
    edited July 2017
    I have a parts express coupon if you end up wanting it. Don't remember how much you need to spend before the discount kicks in but I will check when I get home.
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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    okay thanks guys. It looks pretty straight forward, I think I saw a post here a while ago on how to actually do this so I will try to find that again and get this done.
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  • Stew
    Stew Posts: 645
    Almost forgot, you'll need one of these for each socket:

    https://www.parts-express.com/neutrik-scdp-0-sealing-gasket-for-d-size-connectors-black--092-094
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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    Ah okay, thank you for that
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,546
    Don't forget to seal the hole you make for the socket on the backside of the binding post plate. Hot glue works well for that.
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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    yes I remember reading somewhere that it would need to be resealed. I want to make sure the cabinets stay air tight.
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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    I am about to put these cables together using Audioquest type 4 and wanted to make sure I am soldering the correct things here before I go.

    Am I connecting Positive (red) cable to -2 and negative (black) to -1?

    These will be for my SDA 2.3 speakers so my next question is how should I wire the inside of the speaker to the female Neutrik?



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  • dkfreebird
    dkfreebird Posts: 1,186
    The way I've read most on here and the way I did mine are +1 goes to the blue/pin wire the -1 goes to the white/blade wire.
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    Polk 1.2tl's Modded with dreadnought
    Musical Fidelity M6Si
    North Star Intenso Dac
    Auralic Aries Mini Streamer
    Oppo 103
    Pangea PC
    Wireworld Equinox 7 interconnects
    Wireworld Equinox 7 Speaker Cables and Jumpers

    Backups 2.3tl, Crs+ pin/blade with stands.Monitor 5 peerless,Monitor 4 peerless,Polk R200,McCormack Dna 0.5 Deluxe McCormack Dna 1,Dared Sl 2000A,Dayens Ampino Rogue Magnum 66 pre
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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    okay so does that change how I solder the IC cable to the female Neutriks? Sorry, I meant male neutrik in my earlier post above where I was talking about inside the speaker.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,546
    Your 2.3's are pin/blade. For the socket connect the blue wire to 1+ and the white wire to 1-. For your interconnect cable one wire gets connected to the 1+ and the other wire to 1- at both ends.
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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    got it, thanks. That makes sense.
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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    so I am finally getting to install the Speakon connections in my SDA 2.3's and have another quick question. The Neutrik NL4MP-UC socket is too big to fit in the existing hole where the original socket is. For some reason I thought they would be the same size. Am I now drilling out a bigger hole in the terminal plate?

    I just installed the RDO-194's, can't wait to get these speakers back up and running.
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  • chandler9a
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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    Okay great, thank you.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,546
    Ah yeah, you've got to make the hole bigger.


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  • teekay0007
    teekay0007 Posts: 2,289
    F1nut wrote: »
    Ah yeah, you've got to make the hole bigger.



    That's what she said....



    S'cuze me!

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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    At this point I may as well do the binding posts while I'm in there, this rabbit hole just gets deeper. It's one of the few mods I've never done on SDA's
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,441
    chandler9a wrote: »
    At this point I may as well do the binding posts while I'm in there, this rabbit hole just gets deeper. It's one of the few mods I've never done on SDA's

    YES NO BRAINER!!
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  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    chandler9a wrote: »
    At this point I may as well do the binding posts while I'm in there, this rabbit hole just gets deeper. It's one of the few mods I've never done on SDA's

    Jump in dude! Check out my thread:

    http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/179960/another-1c-upgrade-path/p1
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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    I have hooked everything up and all seemed well until i did the balance test and when I put it all the way to the left, I get sound from the stereo drivers on the right. If my memory serves me, I should only be getting sound from the dimensional drivers on the opposite side.

    Furthermore, I am still getting more output on the left speaker dimensional drivers than I am the right. I will have to get in there and make sure all MW's are wired up correctly but I thought the Nuetriks would have solved this problem.

    Any suggestions?
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  • codycatalist
    codycatalist Posts: 2,662
    chandler9a wrote: »
    I have hooked everything up and all seemed well until i did the balance test and when I put it all the way to the left, I get sound from the stereo drivers on the right. If my memory serves me, I should only be getting sound from the dimensional drivers on the opposite side.

    Furthermore, I am still getting more output on the left speaker dimensional drivers than I am the right. I will have to get in there and make sure all MW's are wired up correctly but I thought the Nuetriks would have solved this problem.

    Any suggestions?

    Sounds like an internal wiring issue, do the stereo drivers have colored wires attached or black and white? Last I opened my SDAs the black/white was the stereo driver wires, colored was dimensional.
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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    Yes, I checked and the black and white are the stereo drivers on both sides.

    I just tried it without the interconnect and the right channel does the same exact thing either way. Could there be something wrong with the crossovers?
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    Blade/Blade SRS-2, 3rd generation? If so, verify the ground leads on the stereo and dimensional woofers are correct. Some had Black/Green for the Stereo Harnesses, and Blue/Green for the Dimensional harnesses. Some had Black/White for stereo and Blue/White for Dimensional. Some even had Black/White for Stereo, and Blue/Green for Dimensional. The point is, the grounds or neutrals are different for each harness. If they're mixed up for some reason, the crossovers won't work properly.
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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    westmassguy,

    These are actually SRS 2.3's non-TL. I tried to get in there today and take a good look at all of the wiring but I had my apprentices with me, ages 3 and 6 months and I just couldn't get all I wanted done. So, after bedtime, I will try to see whats going on.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,441
    chandler9a wrote: »
    westmassguy,

    These are actually SRS 2.3's non-TL. I tried to get in there today and take a good look at all of the wiring but I had my apprentices with me, ages 3 and 6 months and I just couldn't get all I wanted done. So, after bedtime, I will try to see whats going on.

    Go get the wiring schematic from the vintage speaker area. Should be pretty self explanatory but i myself have fouled it up once or twice.
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