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  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 137
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    papatom wrote: »
    Oh ya, I hear you. The ones I'm looking at check off nearly everything you mentioned save for the 11.2. Those are kinda way out of my price range. In addition, I would at most see myself using 5.1.2 or 7.2; simply due to room size and what I can accommodate.

    Then your good. Personally another thing to keep in mind is the diff flavors of Auto Calibration.

    Pioneer = MCACC
    Denon/Marantz = Audyssey (with all its diff versions)
    Yamaha = YPAO

    Each works differently and has diff pro's and con's. If going with a model with Audyseey, MAKE SURE it has XT32 AND SubEQ (each is its own thing). XT32 handles your speakers. SubEQ handles when you have more than one sub and they may or may not be the same distance from your seats. Good thing to have.

    And good call on Accessories4less. I got my Denon from them (new though, not refurb), but I wouldn't have a problem buying a refurb from them.

    Personally the Marantz AV7702, or the AV7702 mkII are some I've had my eyes on myself...

    I've used the Audyssey in times past. Worked really, really well. Onkyo's use the AccuEx which....isn't that good. But very good pointers to look out for. Thank you!
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  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 137
    Highly considering this:

    http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/marsr6010/marantz-sr6010-7.2-ch-x-110-watts-networking-a/v-receiver-bonus-hdmi-cables-100-value/1.html#!specifications

    Marantz SR6010 for $699.

    Never bought a refurb or used item before but hey, there's a first time for everything! :D
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  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 137
    edited November 2016
    DSkip wrote: »
    papatom wrote: »
    Highly considering this:

    http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/marsr6010/marantz-sr6010-7.2-ch-x-110-watts-networking-a/v-receiver-bonus-hdmi-cables-100-value/1.html#!specifications

    Marantz SR6010 for $699.

    Never bought a refurb or used item before but hey, there's a first time for everything! :D

    That's a great price on a good receiver. Jump on it man. A4L has had issues with returns before but I think the issues have always been resolved.

    Yea, I'm talking to a few guys about it in a HT Facebook group. The actual service is great, products can be hit or miss though. Guess that's what you risk when you buy refurb. I'm going to convince then wife for the SR7009 which is only $799. Either or, I'm getting one of them.

    But hey, at least it comes with 4 free HDMI cables! :p
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  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,670
    Good luck with the wife!

    That's always the hardest part of any audio purchase!

    Glad you've narrowed it down.
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  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 137
    I won't lie, I'm torn between the SR6010 or the SR7009. I got both in the checkout cart. The 7009 is a flat out raw beast. Plus it looks nicer with the blue trimmed display panel lol. But something about the SR6010 just seems like a better value.
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  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 137
    nbrowser wrote: »
    papatom wrote: »
    I won't lie, I'm torn between the SR6010 or the SR7009. I got both in the checkout cart. The 7009 is a flat out raw beast. Plus it looks nicer with the blue trimmed display panel lol. But something about the SR6010 just seems like a better value.

    Nothing wrong with either, as a Marantz AVR owner I know what they are capable of, even my entry level full sized 5010 punches will above it's weight when it comes to trying to keep up with the externally amp'ed front speakers. Just an FYI, the 7009 was the top end a few years back and will flat out destroy the 6010 in the finesse department :)

    I know, it's crazy! The power on the 7009 is insane. Is it wrong to think in a way such as "The 7009 is already 2+ years old, but the 6010 is newer."? I know the 7009 doesn't have DTS:X; only Atmos, but if it's truly a beneficial sacrifice in a sense where the 7009 is purely the better option from a cleaner, more powerful sound standpoint, then maybe I'll just go with that. Then again I am only running the Polk Signature Series speakers, not like I'm running Paradigm Studio 100 v.5's.

    I just bought some new Mediabridge ULTRA Series 12AWG w/ gold plated banana plugs soldered on to them for the front left, front right and center speakers (leaving the two surrounds with their current cabling w/banana plugs) from Amazon.
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  • jeremymarcinko
    jeremymarcinko Posts: 3,785
    Go with the Yamaha AVENTAGE and be done for a decade.
    Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
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  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 137
    nbrowser wrote: »
    The time difference between the two is one release, there was the 009 series, then the 010 and now the 011. Insert a 5, 6 or 7 at the front. I've set up a meeting for tomorrow to look at a 6008 for my bedroom system, I don't do DTS-X on the 5010 although the latest firmware update says it added it or something but eh. I might evne place the 6008 into the main rig and take the 5010 into the bedroom...never know. I just know that 7009 will be a mighty powerhouse for the bucks.

    I think you've convinced me. Last, most important question and strangely I'm not seeing this on Marantz's site, and I'm going to assume it does - but the 7009 does support Spotify right?
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    jeremymarcinko wrote: »
    Go with the Yamaha AVENTAGE and be done for a decade.

    It's alright. We know. ;)
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 137
    nbrowser wrote: »
    Yep, as long as you shove a network cable into the rear of it or connect it via wifi...I use wired with my 5010, much more reliable.

    http://us.marantz.com/DocumentMaster/US/SR7009_spec_sheet.pdf

    I'll be going wireless with this.
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    It's been decided. "Shove" is Ken's favorite word. Shoving CAT5 cables in places, shoving watts into speakers, sometimes you have to be gentle Ken. :p
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 137
    Alright gents, ordered the SR7009. Hopefully this lasts for a long, long time. Thank you all so very much for your suggestions and know-how! :)
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    I'm sure you'll both enjoy it and it will last you a long time, congrats on the purchase.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 137
    Nightfall wrote: »
    I'm sure you'll both enjoy it and it will last you a long time, congrats on the purchase.

    Thank you very much! Super psyched! This past week has been crazy, new Polk Signature Series speakers (except for the T15's which I'm leaving for surrounds), new receiver, new cabling. I think I'm set for quite a while.
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    nbrowser wrote: »
    Nightfall wrote: »
    It's been decided. "Shove" is Ken's favorite word. Shoving CAT5 cables in places, shoving watts into speakers, sometimes you have to be gentle Ken. :p

    Shoving discs in to the XBox One, shoving the keys into my truck, I'm a damn mechanic...we don't do things gently! lol

    There's a song by Tenacious D that I think your girlfriend would like you to listen to.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 137
    nbrowser wrote: »
    Anything, is better than Onkyo. :)

    I'm sure this thing will absolutely demolish my current Onkyo TX-NR555 in every conceivable, possible way.
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  • papatom
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    One last thing I want to ask though, can this thing do HDR pass-through? I know it does 4K, upscaling, etc. but I do have a Samsung UBD-K8500, 4K LG TV with HDR.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    papatom wrote: »
    I think I'm set for quite a while.

    Famous last words..

    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 137
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    papatom wrote: »
    I think I'm set for quite a while.

    Famous last words..

    LOL yes, indeed.
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  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,670
    papatom wrote: »
    One last thing I want to ask though, can this thing do HDR pass-through? I know it does 4K, upscaling, etc. but I do have a Samsung UBD-K8500, 4K LG TV with HDR.

    Don't worry too much about video related stuff as it pertains to 4K and HDR.

    Your Samsung has dual HDMI outputs for a very good reason, to connect "legacy" audio products.

    One HDMI (main on your Samsung) will go directly to your TV and the second HDMI will go to the SR7009 for all of your audio needs.
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  • rpf65
    rpf65 Posts: 2,127
    The 7009 doesn't have HDR capabilities. Just shows you how fast the AVR world changes. Lot of bad reviews because the wouldn't do a DTS X update. That was a really weird year. Every AVR was pretty much lacking that format, and many felt outdated upon release. HDR wasn't even talked about then.

    Think the 7010 had HDR capabilities, but really wouldn't worry too much about it. I'll be surprised if the current releases aren't dated within the next year or so.

    The 7009 is a very good and capable receiver. You should be alright for quite a while. it will have no problem driving your speakers, will do everything your current set up is capable, and you can stream everything offered as well as play every DVDs currently marketed.

    A lot of things are just good marketing. Think of it in terms of a tv. If you buy a 40 inch or less tv, you would probably not see a difference past 720, but they still sell resolutions above that level. Other than the HDMI and HDCP protocols, there wouldn't be any reason to upgrade it. Your getting to the level where a tv is nothing more than a display.

    At your price point, sound will get no better, unless you just don't like the Marantz house sound.
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  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 137
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    papatom wrote: »
    One last thing I want to ask though, can this thing do HDR pass-through? I know it does 4K, upscaling, etc. but I do have a Samsung UBD-K8500, 4K LG TV with HDR.

    Don't worry too much about video related stuff as it pertains to 4K and HDR.

    Your Samsung has dual HDMI outputs for a very good reason, to connect "legacy" audio products.

    One HDMI (main on your Samsung) will go directly to your TV and the second HDMI will go to the SR7009 for all of your audio needs.

    Forgot about the two HDMI outputs on my player. Thankfully Samsung included them for this exact reason. Thanks!
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  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 137
    rpf65 wrote: »
    The 7009 doesn't have HDR capabilities. Just shows you how fast the AVR world changes. Lot of bad reviews because the wouldn't do a DTS X update. That was a really weird year. Every AVR was pretty much lacking that format, and many felt outdated upon release. HDR wasn't even talked about then.

    Think the 7010 had HDR capabilities, but really wouldn't worry too much about it. I'll be surprised if the current releases aren't dated within the next year or so.

    The 7009 is a very good and capable receiver. You should be alright for quite a while. it will have no problem driving your speakers, will do everything your current set up is capable, and you can stream everything offered as well as play every DVDs currently marketed.

    A lot of things are just good marketing. Think of it in terms of a tv. If you buy a 40 inch or less tv, you would probably not see a difference past 720, but they still sell resolutions above that level. Other than the HDMI and HDCP protocols, there wouldn't be any reason to upgrade it. Your getting to the level where a tv is nothing more than a display.

    At your price point, sound will get no better, unless you just don't like the Marantz house sound.

    Yea, I see what you're saying. Makes sense. Technically, the receiver is what, $2000 msrp? I'm just getting it for $800 since it's a refurbished. I'd hope to hear a difference with a receiver like this compared to my Onkyo TX-NR555...lol.
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,761
    papatom wrote: »
    Nightfall wrote: »
    I'm sure you'll both enjoy it and it will last you a long time, congrats on the purchase.

    I think I'm set for quite a while.

    Famous last words... B)

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  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,897
    Already in the hole, It is when they start shoveling in the dirt you are done.
    The best way to predict the future is to invent it.

    It is imperative that we recognize that an opinion is not a fact.
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,018
    papatom wrote: »
    Nightfall wrote: »
    I'm sure you'll both enjoy it and it will last you a long time, congrats on the purchase.

    Thank you very much! Super psyched! This past week has been crazy, new Polk Signature Series speakers (except for the T15's which I'm leaving for surrounds), new receiver, new cabling. I think I'm set for quite a while.

    Famous last words....

    Congrats on your setup and be sure to enjoy it
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  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 137
    So the SR7009 was delivered this morning and I've legitimately been messing around with it all day. Used Audyssey to setup and calibrate, tried a few movies.

    Absolute night and day difference. Blew my friggin mind away. And the Signature Series sounds absolutely freaking amazing with this compared the TX-NR555. I've always bought the lower end receivers thinking they were "awesome" but boy or boy, little did I know what I was missing once I started using the Marantz.

    It's going to take a little getting used too because my bass is simply all over the room atm, but I'll figure it out and fix it.

    Thank you very much everyone for helping me with this again!
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,287
    Congrats
    Make sure when you're running Audyssey or any others, to turn off AC/heat and all ceiling fans etc.
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  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 137
    edited November 2016
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    Congrats
    Make sure when you're running Audyssey or any others, to turn off AC/heat and all ceiling fans etc.

    Thank you!

    Oh yea, you could hear a pin drop it was so quiet. Kids were still in school also :).
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  • rpf65
    rpf65 Posts: 2,127
    Congrats on the AVR, and convincing the wife to allow you to buy it.

    Most bass issues are caused by the room itself or bad positioning. If you have the sub jammed in a corner, for instance, you add a lot of room gain. Sometimes moving a sub by 6 inches or so solves a lot of issues.

    I'd do a sub crawl, and start over if I were you.
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