I want an inexpensive SACD player for the dungeon

afterburnt

Is there a small footprint relatively inexpensive one that will do the music justice?

afterburnt

Universal but not all of the bells and whistles on an Oppo?

Nightfall

How inexpensive?

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-BD-A1040BL-AVENTAGE-Universal-Blu-ray/dp/B00L5GWBP0

Nightfall

Used Pioneer for $65

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-DV-578A-S-Player-DVD-Audio-SACD/dp/B0002ERY6W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1456982254&sr=8-1&keywords=Universal+sacd+player

Nightfall

There's another Yamaha in the for sale section for $50. It's local only but I happen to be local if you want to pay for the shipping materials and shipping I could send it to you.

afterburnt

I just want to try SACDs on my Ushers. nbrowser where does it say that Sony does SACD?

Nightfall

The Ushers deserve something better than anything in this thread.

afterburnt

"Deserve's got nothing to do with it"

I just wanted to try it out. I only have a few SCADs

afterburnt

I suppose I would really hear how bad a cheap player is

honestaquarian

Oppo started off making some excellent Universal DVD players that didn't cost a lot (*as in less than two hundred*)and played DVD-A's and SACD's.
Pioneer also had some excellent,less expensive Universal players

afterburnt

The AVR and a Sony blue ray I uses a portable hd for flacs

dromunds

You can pick up a Denon 2910 or 3910 cheap and they sound good IMHO

ken brydson

dromunds wrote: »

You can pick up a Denon 2910 or 3910 cheap and they sound good IMHO

^^This^^. Think I paid like $100 for my 2910.

trj

Nightfall are you talking about the yamaha that I have in classifieds? Thanks for looking out. Didn't know you were local to me.
Yah, I have yamaha DVD C750 for sale(no remote). Unfortunately, I won't be able to ship it. I am selling it for my neighbor so don't really want to ship his stuff to you. I bought the same one from him. The player is good, but I have never heard the ushers. So, can't really say how good it will be for you. If nightfall can ship it to you then I can give it to him for $50 and you deal with shipping. Probably it will be cheaper for you to buy it locally than getting it shipped though.
But its fairly big player, you mention that you want a small footprint player. Its bigger than my AVR (LXW). haha. I don't have any SACDs, but my normal CDs definitely sound much better on that player.

rooftop59

yep grab something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Denon-DVD-2910B-Progressive-Scan-DVD-Player-/401081091644?hash=item5d624bc63c:g:zw4AAOSwezVWuBm0

rooftop59

or this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-Elite-DV-46AV-DVD-Player-/152000500347?hash=item2363ef927b:g:ObAAAOSwZG9WkaTh

rooftop59

better build quality, mo' money!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PIONEER-ELITE-DV-47AI-DVD-AUDIO-SACD-PLAYER-MP3-W-MANUAL-REMOTE-MINT-/152000393493?hash=item2363edf115:g:v3MAAOSwUuFW1NPm

mhardy6647

I have a question, and this thread seems like a good place to ask it! (with apologies to the OP)

In the (fairly) early days of the SACD, there was a plethora of 'universal' players at (fairly) low prices... and there were also audiophile SACD players at... astronomical prices.

I've even got one of the former (a Yamaha 5 disc CD/DVD/SACD/whatever changer?!).

Back when I got the Yamaha* I "learned" (i.e., I read someplace, or was told by someone) that there is some fundamental difference in the way that the cheap SACD-compatible players handle the SACD datastream relative to the good ones. If I understood correctly (and there's no guarantee that I did), the cheap players, in essence, convert the SACD datastream to something more or less interchangeable with redbook CD (sampling rate and resolution). In other words, any enhanced resolution in an SACD is basically processed out of the cheap universal players, and what you hear is more or less identical to playin' a redbook CD.

Was this just an hallucination I had or is there something to it?

Since I know there's a fair amount of digital format savvy at these forums, this seemed like a good place to ask if anyone had some clarity on this (or can point me to a resource that addresses the topic)!

Thanks -- and sorry for the quasi-hijack!

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* FYI and FWIW, the Yamaha is in its box on a shelf down in the basement.

afterburnt

No jack, very good question. I may learn something (doubtful but I am trying to be positive)

jeremymarcinko

Nightfall wrote: »

How inexpensive?

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-BD-A1040BL-AVENTAGE-Universal-Blu-ray/dp/B00L5GWBP0

I have this player. It does music exceptionally well. Yamaha's proprietary 32bit DAC sounds fantastic. I compared directly to the Musical Fidelity dac and it was to close to call. It's an excellent value.

afterburnt

Rick88 wrote: »

I have the Sony BDP-6500 that Ken mentioned, and yes it does play SACDs. If you are hooking it up via HDMI and using it strictly as a transport, it'll do fine. And as a bonus it is a GREAT blu-ray player, fantastic picture and extremely speedy loading...

The Yamaha RXA1040 would be doing the DAC work so you think that would be ok? Besides It will end up doing more movies than music. I only have like six SACD's so far.

afterburnt

jeremymarcinko wrote: »

Nightfall wrote: »

How inexpensive?

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-BD-A1040BL-AVENTAGE-Universal-Blu-ray/dp/B00L5GWBP0

I have this player. It does music exceptionally well. Yamaha's proprietary 32bit DAC sounds fantastic. I compared directly to the Musical Fidelity dac and it was to close to call. It's an excellent value.

Jeremy that is really out of my price range which it closer to zero lol. Thanks though.

honestaquarian

mhardy6647 wrote: »

I have a question, and this thread seems like a good place to ask it! (with apologies to the OP)

In the (fairly) early days of the SACD, there was a plethora of 'universal' players at (fairly) low prices... and there were also audiophile SACD players at... astronomical prices.

I've even got one of the former (a Yamaha 5 disc CD/DVD/SACD/whatever changer?!).

Back when I got the Yamaha* I "learned" (i.e., I read someplace, or was told by someone) that there is some fundamental difference in the way that the cheap SACD-compatible players handle the SACD datastream relative to the good ones. If I understood correctly (and there's no guarantee that I did), the cheap players, in essence, convert the SACD datastream to something more or less interchangeable with redbook CD (sampling rate and resolution). In other words, any enhanced resolution in an SACD is basically processed out of the cheap universal players, and what you hear is more or less identical to playin' a redbook CD.

Was this just an hallucination I had or is there something to it?

Since I know there's a fair amount of digital format savvy at these forums, this seemed like a good place to ask if anyone had some clarity on this (or can point me to a resource that addresses the topic)!

Thanks -- and sorry for the quasi-hijack!

______________
* FYI and FWIW, the Yamaha is in its box on a shelf down in the basement.

Yes there is truth to that.
However I don't know which players do it and which do not.
I know the early Oppo digital players (*I used to have one*) send the DSD stream out via HDMI. So if you have an AVR or preamp that can play DSD,then you do not have to worry about that.

pitdogg2

Where ya live?

afterburnt

L.A. ish

txcoastal1

halo

rooftop59 wrote: »

better build quality, mo' money!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PIONEER-ELITE-DV-47AI-DVD-AUDIO-SACD-PLAYER-MP3-W-MANUAL-REMOTE-MINT-/152000393493?hash=item2363edf115:g:v3MAAOSwUuFW1NPm

I have the 47Ai and it is a solid player. Keep shopping and you may find it for le$$

afterburnt

txcoastal1 wrote: »

tell me about it

aprazer402

mhardy6647 wrote: »

I have a question, and this thread seems like a good place to ask it! (with apologies to the OP)

In the (fairly) early days of the SACD, there was a plethora of 'universal' players at (fairly) low prices... and there were also audiophile SACD players at... astronomical prices.

I've even got one of the former (a Yamaha 5 disc CD/DVD/SACD/whatever changer?!).

Back when I got the Yamaha* I "learned" (i.e., I read someplace, or was told by someone) that there is some fundamental difference in the way that the cheap SACD-compatible players handle the SACD datastream relative to the good ones. If I understood correctly (and there's no guarantee that I did), the cheap players, in essence, convert the SACD datastream to something more or less interchangeable with redbook CD (sampling rate and resolution). In other words, any enhanced resolution in an SACD is basically processed out of the cheap universal players, and what you hear is more or less identical to playin' a redbook CD.

Was this just an hallucination I had or is there something to it?

Since I know there's a fair amount of digital format savvy at these forums, this seemed like a good place to ask if anyone had some clarity on this (or can point me to a resource that addresses the topic)!

Thanks -- and sorry for the quasi-hijack!

______________
* FYI and FWIW, the Yamaha is in its box on a shelf down in the basement.

Mrh, Start reading this thread on page four. It gets really confusing. I think this is what you were referring to, universal dvd players sacd capable that downconvert sacd's dsd to pcm, then back again. I'd be interested to know how this works as I have Samsung, Sony and Pioneer dvd units that play sacd's. http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/120137/when-was-the-last-time-you-have-used-your-cd-player

deronb1

The Sony Blu-ray will work fine.

rooftop59

I have a couple of slightly cheaper sony BDPs that play SACD. In short, they are fine for blu ray, dvd, and streaming, but sound like s#!t with cds and sacds. Unless the 6500 is substantially better (which it doesn't look like it is on paper) I wouldn't waste my money...