HDCD I looked it up and it says it some microboff crap

I just noticed that I got a Joni Mitchell CD that says it is HDCD. Is this something special? I usually rip my CD's FLAC to a hard drive and put them away (forever).
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    A very unpopular media type. They're usually CD/HDCD combos. Maybe always? Not sure.

    I know Tool "Lateralus" was a CD/HDCD combo.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    Looks like your Oppo will play a HDCD layer. Look for a light on the front that says HDCD.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • HDCD is something that professor Keith Johnson (*of Reference Recordings fame*) codeveloped to kind of expand the standard capabilities of the Compact Disc by encoding extra information in the LSB (*Least Significant Bit*) and then decoding and expanding upon playback on an HDCD compatible player/DAC.
    Whether or not you notice a difference with pop music is highly debatable. However with classical it is quite noticable apparently. A lot of stuff was mastered in HDCD because a lot of recording and mastering engineers liked the way the HDCD encoders made the recordings sound.
  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    Cool, I can do some side by side listening. I just ripped it in CD form so now I can see if my ear can tell.
  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    Oh and "Mingus" is not pop music! lol
  • The catch is that once you convert the format it usually strips away the HDCD encoding in the LSB.
  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    I just wanted to know if I should keep em out of the storage bunker to hear some better sound on the player. All of my regular CD's get put in storage once I get them on to the hard drives.
  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,092
    The HDCD's I have sound quite well. I like it.
  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    edited February 2016
    so many CD's out there :smile:

    K2 HD CD
    XRCD24
    Gold CD
    HDCD CD
    UltraHD CD Produced using PureFlection process! This Ultra HD 32-Bit Mastering CD will play on ALL CD players!
    XRCD2 CD
    XRCD CD
    DXD CD
    and I believe there is a DSD CD
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    whoa Darryl, that may as well be Chinese to me! Are those the formats?
  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    Maybe I got that kind of stuff but never looked close enough?
  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    XRCD= Extended range CD's
    I think XrCD2 & XRCD24 are upgrade version of the XRCD which JVC created along with the K2

    HDCD was developed my Microsoft to increase the dynamic range over standard Red book CD's

    GoldCD : A gold CD is one in which gold is used in place of the super pure aluminium commonly used as the reflective coating on ordinary CDs or silver on ordinary CD-Rs

    Gold CDs can be played in any CD player. Blank gold CD-Rs are also available. They can be recorded in any CD recorder and played in any CD player.

    The advantage of the gold reflection layer is its resistance to corrosion, in contrast to the ordinary aluminum layer found on normal compact discs, which reacts with the glue and plastic material and gradually becomes transparent over time, ultimately resulting in reading errors or total playback failure.
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    Wow thanks for splainin that!
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,197
    If you do a bit perfect rip into flac the HDCD capabilities are transferred to the rip. If you aren't practicing bit perfect ripping techniques, then it won't. So a side by side comparison will yield no differences. This of course is assuming you have a cdp or dac that decodes HDCD.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,197
    voltz wrote: »
    XRCD= Extended range CD's
    I think XrCD2 & XRCD24 are upgrade version of the XRCD which JVC created along with the K2

    HDCD was developed my Microsoft to increase the dynamic range over standard Red book CD's

    GoldCD : A gold CD is one in which gold is used in place of the super pure aluminium commonly used as the reflective coating on ordinary CDs or silver on ordinary CD-Rs

    Gold CDs can be played in any CD player. Blank gold CD-Rs are also available. They can be recorded in any CD recorder and played in any CD player.

    The advantage of the gold reflection layer is its resistance to corrosion, in contrast to the ordinary aluminum layer found on normal compact discs, which reacts with the glue and plastic material and gradually becomes transparent over time, ultimately resulting in reading errors or total playback failure.

    I still have my very first silver cd I bought in 1984 and the so called cd rot really isn't all that much of an issue.

    H9

    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,197
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • pglbook
    pglbook Posts: 2,226
    edited February 2016
    All of the recent official Grateful Dead releases (Dave's Picks series, box sets such as Spring 1990, Europe '72, 30 Trips Around the Sun, etc.) have been in HDCD. My Rotel RCC 1055 CD player plays HDCD and I notice quite a substantial improvement on sound quality on the HDCD CDs.
  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    edited February 2016
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    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    edited February 2016
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    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    edited February 2016
  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    dont ask **** about nuthin on this bb
  • mikeyb128
    mikeyb128 Posts: 2,885
    afterburnt wrote: »
    dont ask **** about nuthin on this bb

    You've had too many pain killers and beer.
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    heiney9 wrote: »

    Is he a dick or is just me?
  • I have about a dozen HDCDs. Other than they sounded great (and do)
    I'd be hard pressed to tell the difference. I don't have a player that
    takes advantage of HDCD currently, but did.
  • HDCD was developed by Pacific Microsonics of which Keith O johnson was one of the founders. Not Microsoft
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,197
    Wow, some really thin skinned people here. Take a chill pill. I just get tired of very vague, general threads where it seems like people are too lazy to do a little research and then ask questions.

    And no I'm not a dick, must just be you.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • It says in the Wikipedia lonk that HDCD was developed by Pacific Microsonics as I said above and then they were bought out by Microsoft.
  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    Dat gam heiney sorry for makining your life difficult