Your thoughts on EQ's with SDA SRS 2.3tl
hytekrednek
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I am just curious of you guys opinions on using an eq with SDA speakers. I have tried them without an eq, and with one. To my ears and with my taste, I prefer to use an eq with the 2.3 tl's. BUT, I am not an expert audio dude by no means, just a big fan and 18 year owner of SDA SRS 2.3tl's.
I tend to like my bass and treble to be a bit more than it was when not using an eq.
Your thoughts? opinions? or facts are welcome?
I tend to like my bass and treble to be a bit more than it was when not using an eq.
Your thoughts? opinions? or facts are welcome?
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OH GOD
NOT the EQ question
You KNOW you're about to start a HUGE debate!!
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For music? No thanks. For movies and video games? I like to bump the bass up a smidge, not a ton.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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I don't want to start any drama, not my intention. Every ear is different, and everybody is different. Just looking for peoples thoughts and opinions on the subject and why you do or do not like to use an eq
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Phase shift, distortion, and noise are just a few of the "benefits" of your typical Graphic Equalizer. 2.3tls should not need any bass boost. What are you powering them with?
They're 25 years old, and due for some upgrades. New Tweeters and Crossover Upgrades can make a dramatic difference. Room placement, and room treatments should be considered also.Home Theater/2 Channel:
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
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EQ's or tone controls, I have no use for either.The best way to predict the future is to invent it.
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westmassguy wrote: »Phase shift, distortion, and noise are just a few of the "benefits" of your typical Graphic Equalizer.
These are side effects of EQ done in the ANALOG domain. Not EQ done in the DIGITAL domain. -
honestaquarian wrote: »westmassguy wrote: »Phase shift, distortion, and noise are just a few of the "benefits" of your typical Graphic Equalizer.
These are side effects of EQ done in the ANALOG domain. Not EQ done in the DIGITAL domain.
He didn't specifyHome Theater/2 Channel:
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
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Hey Gimpod do you have boards for 3.1tl's?
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honestaquarian wrote: »Hey Gimpod do you have boards for 3.1tl's?
Just curious.
Trey and I both carry the boards. Tony doesn't sell them directly.Home Theater/2 Channel:
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
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Oh yeah Sorry
So is it JUST the circuit board with no parts?
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True. But then, any ported speaker system has phase-shift issues. If you have sensitive enough hearing to notice those problems, you'll probably want to eliminate the equalizer. Most folks aren't sensitive enough, unless the EQ is either a low-budget junkbox, or defective.westmassguy wrote: »Phase shift, distortion, and noise are just a few of the "benefits" of your typical Graphic Equalizer.
ALSO generally true.westmassguy wrote: »2.3tls should not need any bass boost.
Agreed. BEFORE **** with the signal via an equalizer, repairing and modernizing the speakers, tuning the speaker/room interface, and applying acoustic treatment to the room are recommended.westmassguy wrote: »What are you powering them with?
They're 25 years old, and due for some upgrades. New Tweeters and Crossover Upgrades can make a dramatic difference. Room placement, and room treatments should be considered also.
AFTER you've got the speaker, the room, and speaker/listener positions sorted out, if you need additional signal modification you can add a decent-quality equalizer that is in good condition.
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Correct. You can migrate everything over to the new boards, or replace just about everything.honestaquarian wrote: »Oh yeah Sorry
So is it JUST the circuit board with no parts?
What is the difference between Gimpods board and the standard ones?
The design and quality is in a different league. Tony made them twice the size, laid out perfectly for large metalized polypropylene caps, and mills resistors. Copper foil is heavier as well.
Home Theater/2 Channel:
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
dhsspeakerservice.com/ -
I'm in no financial position to do anything about it now,but what do they cost?
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$100.00 per pair.Home Theater/2 Channel:
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
dhsspeakerservice.com/ -
Okay cool thanks
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You're welcome. Beside the excellent quality, It's good to help Tony out.honestaquarian wrote: »Okay cool thanks
Home Theater/2 Channel:
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
dhsspeakerservice.com/ -
I'd like to,but right now I am seriously overextended. This will be a project for the future.I just was curious,because I keep seeing posts about upgrading these old speakers.
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Understood. This will most likely be his last run though.Home Theater/2 Channel:
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
dhsspeakerservice.com/ -
How many do you have for the 3.1's?
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hytekrednek wrote: »I am just curious of you guys opinions on using an eq with SDA speakers. I have tried them without an eq, and with one. To my ears and with my taste, I prefer to use an eq with the 2.3 tl's. BUT, I am not an expert audio dude by no means, just a big fan and 18 year owner of SDA SRS 2.3tl's.
I tend to like my bass and treble to be a bit more than it was when not using an eq.
Your thoughts? opinions? or facts are welcome?.. -
honestaquarian wrote: »How many do you have for the 3.1's?
I think I have 12 pairs left.Home Theater/2 Channel:
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
dhsspeakerservice.com/ -
I replaced the tweeters around 10 years ago with 3000sl's. I am powering them currently with a Yamaha MX-D1. They were powered with a Yamaha MX-1000, but it had a stroke and is in need of repair/reconditioning.
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I replaced the tweeters around 10 years ago with 3000sl's.
The 2.3TL came with SL3000's. What was in yours before you changed them?
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They had 3000sl's in them. 3 were in need of replacement "2 blown and one out of spec" I just replaced them all and put up the 3 good ones for spares.
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Ok, just checking that you didn't actually have the 2.3's.
As for your EQ question. You should not need one. The SL3000's are "brighter" than the RD0198-1 replacements, so if you feel the top end isn't making your ears bleed as is, then you don't want the RD0198-1 dispite it being a vastly superior tweeter. Lack of bass could be many things. You don't have them spiked, too far out from the back wall, air leaks, crossovers needs upgrading, amp isn't a high current design, room issues, etc.Political Correctness'.........defined
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I do need to spike them. I got the spikes a couple years ago, but life got in the way before I could install them. I will locate the spikes and install them soon. Thanks for the reminder. I would like to try out the rdo-198's at some point. I could always sell them if I do not like the change. From what I read, most like them. I probably would too.
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I also plan to get the driver rings and tweeter brackets next time they are available. That should help as well.
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There's a basic to do list that will improve the sound quality beyond what you probably think is possible.
Tweeters
Crossover Upgrades
Spikes
Rings or Hurricane Nuts
The Dreadnought with high quality cable
High quality speaker cable/IC's
Political Correctness'.........defined
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