Jolida fusion DAC/Transport.

lightman1
lightman1 Posts: 10,788
in 2 Channel Audio
Looking for something in this realm.
All the specs and wizbang look right.
I had an ear on some of their cdp only goods and was DEEPLY impressed. Looks like a flexible piece of gear. Thinking about pairing it to their matching big arse stoopid 100W tuber in the same line.
Love their amps! Anybody had an ear on this DAC/T?
Hot Rod 1C's taking the abuse endstream.
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    And BTW. Don't tell any one here that I talked about anything audio related. It's a secret.
    Cool? Thanks.
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    Straight up two chanel. Shartload of cd's. Redbooks. Hybrids.
    They describe this one as a DAC with a transport built in. So for ease of install without all the fuss of multiple inputs/outputs, USB, Bluetooth wifi, rabid squirrels...
    And! It has dual mono balanced XLR outputs as well. Seems like a good package deal. Just looking to see if anybody has first hand experience with it.
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    Check...it does have USB inputs. I'm old skool, yo!
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,285
    Russman and I use the Glass FX Tube DAC II and the JD 801 BRC for our show rig at LSAF with great results.

    Jolida fusion DAC/Transport is what replaced the Jolida JD100 CDP. Which you already know when hot rodded like F1nut did to his JD100 was a world class performer.

    I must note that I should add F1's JD100 to the audio regrets thread...for not grabbing it when it went up for sale.

    If it's got your mouth watering I would go for it
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    I have heard stories of that cdp. Six tubes and no opamp in the circuit? Less is more I assume.
    Well poopie! They have a stage 2 mod... Maybe later. But bang for the buck, what the hell?
    Brock!!! Talk tubes brother! I haven't had this much fun rolling since the last rave I went to!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,554
    I think Jolida made a mistake calling their new CDP a DAC/Transport. There's a lot of folks that don't get the fact it's a CDP, hence their sales dropped like a lead weight.

    I also think they were foolish to drop the JD100 as they were still selling very well. Which brings up.....I don't see JD100's up for sale, guess folks are keeping them.

    Troy sent me a pic of my former baby. Looked very happy in his rig and I'm pleased he and TLW are enjoying it. B)
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited December 2015
    That's what I found a tad odd, Jesse. A DAC with a transport built in (??). I've looked for a jd100, but to no avail. I think I'll pull the trigger on this one or after a long talk with Skip, a unit he has up for grabs. Both in my price range. And have heard many a Jolida. Biased...maybe.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    If it has toobs................it rules! Pull the trigger......err I mean open your wallet.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    I'm on it Brock. The hammer is pulled back. Now just squeeze the trigger. Looks like versatile unit
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    I miss my JD100. I only wish it did sacd. If it did, I would still have it!
    Klipsch The Nines, Audioquest Thunderbird Interconnect, Innuos Zen MK3 W4S recovery, Revolution Audio Labs USB & Ethernet, Border Patrol SE-I, Audioquest Niagara 5000 & Thunder, Cullen Crossover II PC's.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    erniejade wrote: »
    I only wish it did sacd.
    Ain't that the truth!

    Tom

    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    Emerald Physics cs2p speakers
    Emerald Physics DSP2.4 eq/crossover
    Jolida Fusion tube pre/DAC
    Emerald Physics EP 100.2 amplifier
    Emerald Physics 60x2 amplifier
    And the cherry on top...
    Jolida Fusion DAC/Transport

    Looks like it will be delivered sometime this month.
    I've gone insane...
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,285
    I thought you only went out to buy a loaf of bread, and you came back with what.....?


    Awesomness
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    A REALLY nice loaf of bread!
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    Any of you ding dongs have any snake oil IC's for sale. I want to prove y'all wrong about your silly cables. They don't matter. So let me save y'all from further embarrassment by taking them off your hands.
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,901
    http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/169004/swiss-cables-for-sale
    Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
    Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
    Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
    Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
    Puritan PSM156
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    Thanks marv! Like I just told Skip, equient is easy, but deciding on cables will drive you bonkers.
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,497
    lightman1 wrote: »
    I've gone insane...

    You've gone insane? I'm the only one catching this? >:)

    Congrats on the big score!

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    lightman1 wrote: »
    I've gone insane...

    You've gone insane? I'm the only one catching this? >:)

    Congrats on the big score!

    Not the only one Rich, but coming from Russ....kinda redundant isn't it ? lol

    Ern,
    If your missing the JD100, I can recommend a look at a used Cary 306 professional version for the added SACD playback. Aside from not doing dsd, you may be able to use the 306's digital inputs for your flac files and saving you the cost of a dac.

    Russ,
    Congrats man, looks like a sweet player and as Brock said, it has tubes whats not to like.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited December 2015
    Rich made a good point. This purchase only confirms it. Just figured after bustin my hump for years and taking care of everybody else, go ahead and get some NEW gear and go from there.
    And NO, the 1C's are not for sale.
    Thank you gents for spending my money.
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,648
    Congrats Russ. Stop over and drink beer to celebrate. ;)
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    XLR or RCA? Transport to Pre.....I hate cables. Anybody got some old wire coathangers?
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    Can't help with with that Russ. But I approve the purchase. I run a Jolida integrated and CDP in my primary system and neither is going anywhere! lol
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,285
    lightman1 wrote: »
    XLR or RCA? Transport to Pre.....I hate cables. Anybody got some old wire coathangers?

    Are both truly balanced devices? If so go XLR.

    I have a pre that has balanced connection but is not truly balanced and the XLR and RCA on my amp have different impedance values.
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    Both cdp and pre are balanced. That's why I am leaning on the xlr side. Better signal transfer. But then RCA to eq and then to amps . Skip!!! Gimme a call!
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,497
    edited December 2015
    lightman1 wrote: »
    XLR or RCA? Transport to Pre.....

    Impedance should answer that question. You always want to input into a higher impedance, some audio types claim 10 times higher is best. But tube gear usually has higher output impedance than SS gear.

    Looking at specs of your DAC, SE (single ended) and balanced output have same impedance of 47k ohms, although balanced is hotter output at 5.0v versus SE at 2.5v. Your pre input impedance is 100k ohms, so you are golden using either (lower into higher impedance). IF one output impedance were significantly lower than the other, I'd try the lowest output impedance and see if you heard a difference over the higher impedance output.

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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    Thanks Rich. That only confirms my initial thoughts. Got a nice set of XLR cables coming in from your friend and mine!!!!!......@DSkip!!!
    How about a big round of applause for the young man!
    Another consideration is break in time. The signature will change a bit over time. So we'll see how things may or may not change as the set up "cooks" for a while.
    Again, I'm only trying to help you folks understand that cables won't make a difference.
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,759
    lightman1 wrote: »
    XLR or RCA? Transport to Pre.....I hate cables. Anybody got some old wire coathangers?

    I've switched to plastic, sorry man...
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,497
    lightman1 wrote: »
    Thanks Rich. That only confirms my initial thoughts.

    We have 110% faith in you!
    Got a nice set of XLR cables coming in from your friend and mine!!!!!......@DSkip!!!

    He is a real enabler, supplies the goods! lol
    Again, I'm only trying to help you folks understand that cables won't make a difference.

    Everything sounds the same, nothing matters.... :o
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    C'mon Ken!! You know the old bronze colored ones are better the white coated ones. But plastic!!! Total loss of sound stage with those.
    Tighten up rookie!
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