Speaker wire/cable recommendation

boston1450
boston1450 Posts: 7,758
edited November 2015 in Speakers
I am looking to upgrade my speaker wire (heavy guage wire now) to a better quality thinner wire/cable. I will need around 35-40 feet each They are for my rears.
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History & Mission
I have recently been upgrading my cables in all my set ups for 2 channels & i got back into HT & have just finished putting in new fronts & center cables. Im old school & used plain ole clean heavy duty speaker wire in past. I have seen alot of clean white'ish thinner kinda speaker wire/cable & it looks great & no idea if its better quality BUT its time to do something with rear speaker wires. I really dont have a budget BUT always trying to be conservative on cost (throw it out there-under 500.00). Like i stated - each side will need to be 35-40ft long & i would like to have banana pins on each end.... Any suggestions on what & where i should start looking would be helpful. Thank you in advance.
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My HT set up consists of
Paradigm
Monitor 7's fronts-cc370-atoms rears-pdr10 subwoofer
Randy-Maine
2ch-RTA15tl crossover upgrade
by David WMG
Yamaha cr1000 cr2040
HT-Yamaha Parasound Acurus
MIT BJC Cs1000p Polk Rotation

Comments

  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    I have a half mile of Fuerez from Douglas Connection on everything now. I am pretty happy and it did not cost a lot. I have Sewell Deadbolts for terminals.
  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,758
    I will check his site. Do the Deadbolts come for Doug also ? How do those go on ?
    Randy-Maine
    2ch-RTA15tl crossover upgrade
    by David WMG
    Yamaha cr1000 cr2040
    HT-Yamaha Parasound Acurus
    MIT BJC Cs1000p Polk Rotation
  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,941
    for the type of sound you get out of rears i don't think it will be worth the money to go to better cables. and besides the thicker gauge wire is better for the longer runs.
    Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
    Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
    Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
    Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
    Puritan PSM156
  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,758
    They work well like they are (from what i hear-but havent compared). I like the looks of cleaner wires & wasnt sure if there was a better quality wire or cable for a decent price. Probably with these old ears i wouldnt notice a difference. Thanks for the info guys
    Randy-Maine
    2ch-RTA15tl crossover upgrade
    by David WMG
    Yamaha cr1000 cr2040
    HT-Yamaha Parasound Acurus
    MIT BJC Cs1000p Polk Rotation
  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    boston1450 wrote: »
    I will check his site. Do the Deadbolts come for Doug also ? How do those go on ?

    I got em from Amazon here is a link they go on pretty easy

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxlaFn19JiA
  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,758
    Thank you for sharing. Ive acctually seen that video before. Never bought or tried them though. Alot of stuff out there like those can be had cheap
    Randy-Maine
    2ch-RTA15tl crossover upgrade
    by David WMG
    Yamaha cr1000 cr2040
    HT-Yamaha Parasound Acurus
    MIT BJC Cs1000p Polk Rotation
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    I used the spade version for building the ground jumpers to connect the gear to the Triton ground.
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    boston1450 wrote: »
    Thank you for sharing. Ive acctually seen that video before. Never bought or tried them though. Alot of stuff out there like those can be had cheap

    Sewell told me that all of part dealing with the wire are copper only the barrel is brass
  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    Randy, the thin white HT wire is most likely for in-wall installation. The Jacket has a UL fire rating. If your wires are exposed, you don't need that. Keep in mind, the longer the run, there more resistance you're adding. That resistance will affect the output rating of your Receiver/Amplifier. Those rating have to be taken with a grain of salt anyway. Higher resistance means a portion of the signal is converted to heat, and less signal actually reaches the speakers.
    Home Theater/2 Channel:
    Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
    Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
    Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
    Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
    Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer

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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,758
    Thanks for the input all. I will stick with the heavy gauge wire im using now & order some banana plugs & enjoy it like this for now-being they are rear surrounds. Im using Canara 4s11 4ft on fronts & 6ft on center (as i built shelf above tv) angled to listening sweet spot. All with lock banana's on them & they seem to sound decent & look clean-so the Mrs's isnt complaining :)
    Randy-Maine
    2ch-RTA15tl crossover upgrade
    by David WMG
    Yamaha cr1000 cr2040
    HT-Yamaha Parasound Acurus
    MIT BJC Cs1000p Polk Rotation
  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    The Canare 4S11 is what I use. It's a little bright until it burns in.
    Home Theater/2 Channel:
    Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
    Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
    Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
    Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
    Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer

    dhsspeakerservice.com/
  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,758
    ^^^^ Im working on it :)
    Randy-Maine
    2ch-RTA15tl crossover upgrade
    by David WMG
    Yamaha cr1000 cr2040
    HT-Yamaha Parasound Acurus
    MIT BJC Cs1000p Polk Rotation
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,068
    The Canare 4S11 is what I use. It's a little bright until it burns in.

    I find it a tad bright and thin sounding even after it burns in. That's my ears though.
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    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    tonyb wrote: »
    The Canare 4S11 is what I use. It's a little bright until it burns in.

    I find it a tad bright and thin sounding even after it burns in. That's my ears though.

    Coming from cheap,12 gauge Rat Shack cable, it was a big improvement for my 2As, along with the Interconnect. I'll be experimenting with higher end cables once my Son's College tuition is paid off in about 5 more years.
    Home Theater/2 Channel:
    Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
    Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
    Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
    Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
    Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer

    dhsspeakerservice.com/
  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,452
    edited November 2015
    I really do like the Furez for speaker wire. I've still got to burn in some cables, but it sounds pretty smooth and pleasing to me, even when new.

    I'm *only* (italics still not working?) using the Sewell Silverback banana connectors right now on some of my diy builds, but I prefer the double-set screw type used in the Silverback over the fan-and-foldover method that I think is used on the Deadbolt? I don't know, just seems to me that the double set screw will make better contact to the body of the plug. I've even considered flowing solder in after.

    These bananas
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    And then I heatshrink 'em
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,249
    Monoprice wire & the Sewell bananas are excellent. That's all you need for the HT application.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,758
    I used something similar to those on heavy guage wire & they seem to work pretty good. I started this thread because in this hobby it seems some look for better performance & cables to me seem to do better & they sure look neat & cleaner when ya got live with them & wife likes cleaner-non clutter look :)
    Randy-Maine
    2ch-RTA15tl crossover upgrade
    by David WMG
    Yamaha cr1000 cr2040
    HT-Yamaha Parasound Acurus
    MIT BJC Cs1000p Polk Rotation
  • gce
    gce Posts: 2,158
    I went with Blue Jean BJC Ten White (5T00UP) (White jacket, 10 AWG) for my rears. It's about a buc a foot so it wont break the bank. For surrounds I think it sounds great.
    Anaheim Hills CA,
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    2 Channel: Rogue RP-5 / WireWorld Electra power cord / Marantz TT-15S1/ Ortofon - Quintet Black MC / Marantz NA8005 DAC / W4S mAmp's / Synology DS 216+ll-4TB / Polkaudio LSiM703
  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,084
    I have entry level MIT's running to my rear speakers but they're also only 20 foot runs and not 40.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited November 2015
    gce wrote: »
    I went with Blue Jean BJC Ten White (5T00UP) (White jacket, 10 AWG) for my rears. It's about a buck a foot so it wont break the bank. For surrounds I think it sounds great.

    Yep, can't go wrong with The BJC cable....especially for in-wall installs. 12 AWG here...I need to buy some more to re-wire my new place. Going in-wall myself to clean things up. Well actually I've been wanting to try the Furez FZ122AS 12AWG....I might go that route.
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    5.2 A/V Setup | OLED TV - Sony Bravia XR A80J 77" | Source - Fire TV 4K Max, Wiim Pro | AVR - Anthem MRX 520 | Speakers: Main - Boston Acoustics VR3 | Center - Boston Acoustics VR920 | Rear - Boston Acoustics VR-MX | Sub 1 - HSU VTF-2 mk3 | Sub 2 - HSU VTF-2 mk3
  • Good cable the FZ122AS.
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  • PM me for the Furez 12/2 cable. Being a Club Polk member you will get a 10% discount. :D
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  • Jumping in late, was it worth it? What was the change?
    Nightfall wrote: »
    I have entry level MIT's running to my rear speakers but they're also only 20 foot runs and not 40.

  • I need to do this for my surrounds and wides...
    Good to know! :)
    PM me for the Furez 12/2 cable. Being a Club Polk member you will get a 10% discount. :D

  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    PM me for the Furez 12/2 cable. Being a Club Polk member you will get a 10% discount. :D

    Cool Doug...will do!
    2.2 Office Setup | LG 29UB55 21:9 UltraWide | HP Probook 630 G8 | Dell Latitude | Cabasse Stream Amp 100 | Boston Acoustics VS 240 | AUDIORAX Desk Stands | Sub 1 - Mirage Omni S8 | Sub 2 - Mirage Omni S8

    5.2 A/V Setup | OLED TV - Sony Bravia XR A80J 77" | Source - Fire TV 4K Max, Wiim Pro | AVR - Anthem MRX 520 | Speakers: Main - Boston Acoustics VR3 | Center - Boston Acoustics VR920 | Rear - Boston Acoustics VR-MX | Sub 1 - HSU VTF-2 mk3 | Sub 2 - HSU VTF-2 mk3