Speaker cable question

brianle
brianle Posts: 572
in 2 Channel Audio
Seems like a lot people in here like MIT cables. What improvements can I expect if moving from Signal Ultra speaker cable to MIT shotgun 1.3? Thanks.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    That's a big leap, not even comparable. The S1's are going to walk all over the Signals by no small margin.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,554
    These demo reviews may give you some idea. The Shotgun 1.3 nets improvements in the bass verses the 3.3.

    http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/129583/mit-shotgun-s3-3-cable-demo-review-round-4/p1

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    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,441
    edited September 2015
    brianle wrote: »
    Seems like a lot people in here like MIT cables. What improvements can I expect if moving from Signal Ultra speaker cable to MIT shotgun 1.3? Thanks.

    A WHOLE LOT....Signal ultras are just two Canare 4s6 or 4s8 star quad's in flex wrap....

    by the way I use the Signal ultra's and just noticed that they are Canare because I just had to terminate and pulled back the flex to see just what it was inside. I just went ahead and ordered more Canare 4S11 as that is what my inter-connect SDA cable is made of so might as well match B)
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    I was amazed when I went from audioquest type 4 to MIT s3.
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 10,716
    I went from MITs back to Audioquest Rocket 44s.
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,020
    I found Signal Ultras to be a little bright in a system I was testing, consisting of a B&K Reference 5 pre, Parasound amp, Squeezebox Touch, and some Monitor 10's. I was using Monoprice interconnects.

    I took advantage of the offers in the MIT Clearance Center and ordered a set of Shotgun S3 speaker cables and S3 interconnects. The cables you're looking at are even better than what I have.

    Bass noticeably more apparently, to the point that I had to zero the tone controls, whereas before I had the bass bumped a touch.
    Improved clarity, especially noticeable in the lack of congestion at higher listening levels.
    Improved articulation - instruments came in and out more cleanly.
    Echoey chick singer voices and instruments seemed to hang and fade beautifully.

    Those are some of the things I noticed during the first week. The only things I changed in the system during that time were the speaker cables and the IC's between the preamp and amp. I was a bit of a cable skeptic before that. I wouldn't call the improvements subtle.
    I disabled signatures.
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  • brianle
    brianle Posts: 572
    rednedtugent wrote: »
    I went from MITs back to Audioquest Rocket 44s.

    what was the reason you went back?
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 10,716
    I busted a spade off one of the wires and I haven't fixed it yet. :)
    These are monster cables. If setup doesn't lend to that...
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,901
    you could go a long time before you have to upgrade these.
    http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=137246.msg1460385;topicseen#new
    Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
    Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
    Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
    Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
    Puritan PSM156
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  • brianle
    brianle Posts: 572
    DSkip wrote: »
    Brian, have you been in the cable game, or are you just curious about MIT?

    Nope. I've been using only Blue Jean and Signal cables :smiley:
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    What gear are you going to put it on? It might be overkill. I use the Shotgun S1.3 XLR interconnects in my HT, and they work great. They used to be in my stereo, and were a huge step up from the Kimber Kable Heros XLR they replaced.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • brianle
    brianle Posts: 572
    edited September 2015
    Thanks! This is going to be on my main rig: Ayon Tritton 3 + Dynaudio C4. I currently use Harmonic Tech Magic Link 2 from the Benchmark DAC to the Ayon.
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,901
    how much are you planning to spend on cables?
    Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
    Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
    Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
    Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
    Puritan PSM156
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  • brianle
    brianle Posts: 572
    max $1000 new or used
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  • mikeyb128
    mikeyb128 Posts: 2,885
    brianle wrote: »
    max $1000 new or used

    MIT clearance center will get you nice speaker cables and interconnects for up to 70% off. Every Tuesday they have new sales, I would be a little patient and shop there. I got magnum interconnects for a little under 300 bucks, and most recently shot gun s1 speaker cables for around 500. DO IT :)
    2 channel:
    Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
    Theater:
    Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables.

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