Windows 10 anyone?

mantis

Hello all,
Curious to know if anyone downloaded windows 10 and has been test driving it? I'm currently on my PC side using Windows 8.1 and despite what most think, I find it fine. I don't use Windows all that much but when I have to Windows 8.1 is not a bad way to do it.
I'm having a few graphics issues with it but other then that I'm good. Honestly it's just 1 program that is having an issue.
So talk to me 10 users

Jimbo18

I am on Win 8.1 and plan to stay there for a few months at least. With the Classic Start menu, it's not much different than Win7. Once some of the bugs are worked out of Win10, I will do the upgrade.

sgtmick63

I just downloaded win 10. I'm going to check it out.

VR3

Ive been running the Technical Preview for a long time now and it has always been relatively stable for me 90% of the time.

My laptop is from 2011, following components - the only issue is the ocassional video card driver

Intel I7 Q720
Nvidia GT330M
280 GB SSD HD
8 Gigs of ram

I have been a Windows Phone user for three years now and love the live tile interface so Windows 8.1/10 is great for me. I really wish they would bring the Live Tiles to the desktop itself versus just the start menu.

gce

I had 8.1 and didn't mind it as most didn't like it. The day I could get 10 I did. I'm learning it now and have to say everything is going ok so far. There are more updates needed but I'm sure they'll come as more and more express want they need. The browser (edge) IMO is better then IE11 but it also needs to evolve with more updates and plugins.

All in all for me its worth the upgrade from 8.1 or even 7.

Irrenhaus

Upgrading today on small test laptop and the Media PC. First one is an Acer One Aspire Windows 7 and the second is Intel NUC Windows 8.1 will see how it works.

cnh

I'm gonna sit this one out and wait to hear from youze guys! And when I DO upgrade to 10-I'll have my software engineer friend DISABLE ALL THE W10 FEATURES THAT MINE "ALL" OF YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION AND ACTIONS-because, supposedly, this is in the MS agreement and the default for 10 unless you go in there and remove, or shut down that stuff.

WilliamM2

I did a clean install today. I have a retail W7 Ultimate key that I will not give up, so I installed a copy of 8.1 that I won't ever use from USB, and updated to 10 immediately the first time it booted into windows. Made sure it activated, then re-booted and did a clean install. This also activated fine without any key, or logging into a Microsoft account. I was surprised it worked so well, and that I was able to do all that in under 30 minutes. I mention this because I have seen conflicting stories on how to do a clean install with the free upgrade.

You can get the USB (or DVD) install media here:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

That said, it looks just like 8.1 without WMC to me. I don't see any great improvements. The new start menu sucks, I'll probably install Classic Shell, just like I did with 8.1. They even screwed up simple things like the calculator, it's ugly, and almost unusable.

The one big annoyance I have, is that all 4 of my drives show up in "safely remove hardware". One is e-Sata, but the rest are internal. If you accidentally remove the wrong drive, you have to reboot to get it back. In windows 7 and 8.1, only the e-Sata shows up there, as I have that port set to removable in the bios. I've read of others having the same issue, but no fix yet.

I'll probably play around with it for a few days, and then put my windows 7 image back on.

westmassguy

So far I've "upgraded" 3 machines, an older Dell Latitude, a 2 yo Acer Aspire, and my custom Workstation. I used Acronis to create a backup for each before the "upgrade". The Microsoft Upgrade Advisor said the Dell met the requirements, and the upgrade went smoothly. The Dell had previously been upgraded with an SSD and 4 Gigs of RAM. Apparently, the Dell D620 came in two versions, one with Intel Graphics, and the other with NVidia. Unfortunately NVidia has not, and will not be releasing a driver for the older GO 7200 Graphics. I was left with a generic display driver with a max resolution of 1024 X 768, which looks odd on a 16 X 9 display and was annoying to say the least. After playing with it for a bit, back to Win 7. The Acer took forever to upgrade, due to the slow mechanical hard drive. After the upgrade, the Acer was mind-numbingly slow. Constant disk activity, and the GUI was barely responsive. Even with Classic Shell, the Start Menu was slow as shite. I ran PerfectDisk, hoping all it needed was a defrag. Very little change in responsiveness. Back to Win 8.1 on that one. My workstation went very quickly, as it also has an SSD. Most of my programs worked perfectly after the upgrade. 1st annoyance, no more gadgets. The two I use, MSN Weather, and Coretemp were gone. I know gadgets were eliminated due to security problems, however the two I use are not vulnerable, and my Security Suite monitors everything anyway. The GUI looks childish, Windows 2000 looked better. It's flat and lifeless. Call me shallow, but I like the Aero Desktop. The Start Menu is atrocious. This insistence on using tiles baffles me. I don't have a Tablet or other mobile device, for which the tiles were designed, I have a Desktop. I installed classic shell, which solved that problem, but brings up an important point, for me anyway, there's no way to turn off tiles without a 3rd party fix. After playing with it for a few hours, back to Win 7. I have two other machines, another desktop, and an HTPC. They will not be upgraded either. Win 10 does not have Home Theater, so my HTPC will have Win 7 on it forever.
For me, I see no compelling reason to upgrade any of my machines. Win 10, in my opinion, is a miss. At best, another fix for Win 8, which was a disaster from the get go.

mantis

Great comments guys,
once I get approval from all my programming software companies, I will make the switch. I will admit that I'm actually digging Windows 8.1. Yeah it's very different then what Windows 7 and XP where but I think Windows is going in the right direction. Change can suck for some and be awesome for others.I'm in Windows 8.1 with a very open mind this time instead of resisting it and it's actually very useful and nice. Every time I play around with it I find some very useful things like one drive, Weather and the apps, Very nice.
I'm also actually excited to upgrade to 10, I would have done it already if I didn't need my laptop for work.

VR3

I am with you Dan, I really like Windows 8.1 and when I originally switched to Windows 10 I found myself constantly looking for the charms bar. After 6 months though, I had a friend needing help with his 8.1 machine and he actually was using the Metro interface for everything and I kind of saw through his eyes why his experience was so terrible for 8.1 since it was constantly switched back and forth.

Windows 10 is a good move and live tiles are a step in the right direction, as soon as they move their way to the desk top/task bar/star menu and become interactive the better! I would love to do everything on my computer without even opening an application unless I needed to go deeper.

Irrenhaus

First problem. The TEAC UD301 does not like Windows 10.

Mikey081057

I upgraded my dell desktop that had 8.1 to win 10 (64bit) and it seems to behave better than the 8.1.

I will let it settle for a few days and see how I like it... I did not like windows 8 at all and kept 7 on my work laptop.

gfong

Tried it and ran into and have the identical issues as Westmassguy. Back to 7 for me for now.

mantis

Irrenhaus wrote: »

First problem. The TEAC UD301 does not like Windows 10.

I'm not sure how a DAC doesn't like an operating system. What software are you using for your music files? I'm gonna download a trail version of maybe J rivers and see how it runs on 8.1 for now. I didn't load any music programs on it yet. Maybe I can see what you are seeing. Did 8.1 do the same thing or are you coming from 7?

mantis

gfong wrote: »

Tried it and ran into and have the identical issues as Westmassguy. Back to 7 for me for now.

I really don't understand Microsoft. How can Apple keep releasing operating systems and not have as many if any bugs? I have upgraded since 2007 with Apple all the operating systems day 1 or 2 and I've yet to have any issues with anything?
With Windows I cross my fingers every new version and hope to god it works right. How can such a powerful company make so many mistakes?

afterburnt

they keep saying I will get it but nothing yet. My date was 7-29 but I dont want to rush it let everyone else suffer the slings and arrows of Microsoft's latest and greatest.

txcoastal1

mantis wrote: »

gfong wrote: »

Tried it and ran into and have the identical issues as Westmassguy. Back to 7 for me for now.

I really don't understand Microsoft. How can Apple keep releasing operating systems and not have as many if any bugs? How can such a powerful company make so many mistakes?

Because Mac goes on Mac machines, to many different variables with PC's

mantis

txcoastal1 wrote: »

mantis wrote: »

gfong wrote: »

Tried it and ran into and have the identical issues as Westmassguy. Back to 7 for me for now.

I really don't understand Microsoft. How can Apple keep releasing operating systems and not have as many if any bugs? How can such a powerful company make so many mistakes?

Because Mac goes on Mac machines, to many different variables with PC's

Ok I get it but think about it, a motherboard has a basic job to do as well as video cards, audio cards, processors, memory etc. They should all play nice together with windows as they make drivers to do so.

Mikey081057

Edge browser might make you forget firefox or chrome.

Best upgrade for MS ever. (They have put out a lot of crap)

IT'S FREE...

It might take some time for some 3rd party drivers to catch up. I had no issues.I expected my cisco vpn client to fail, but it works.

DollarDave

I've been running 10 for a good two months now with their insider program. Absolutely love it.

VR3

Mikey081057 wrote: »

Edge browser might make you forget firefox or chrome.

Best upgrade for MS ever. (They have put out a lot of crap)

IT'S FREE...

It might take some time for some 3rd party drivers to catch up. I had no issues.I expected my cisco vpn client to fail, but it works.

I love the official version of Edge. It is fast, fluid, stable. I sometimes, maybe 1% have to open something in Internet Explorer, which is easy to do with Edge. It also does not hog resources, I notice with Chrome that my computer works pretty hard where as I don't notice that with Edge.

AsSiMiLaTeD

I made the switch on release day - my recommendation, a few notes and a some quick background are below:

If you already have a fully functional and flawless version of Windows now I'd wait on the Windows 10 upgrade as there are still some bugs to be worked out.

• If you're on the free upgrade program it's easy to force the update sooner instead of waiting in line, just grab the Microsoft Windows 10 Download tool and choose the Upgrade option. If you want to do a clean install, then read on...
• Once again, M$ has made the clean install process somewhat of a cluster****. If you get the free Windows upgrade but want to do a clean install (this is what I always do), you actually have to download and install the upgrade to attach the copy of Windows to your machine, THEN you need to do the full download and install again to do the clean install. This makes the whole process take twice as long and twice as many steps when all they need to do is allow me to enter my old Windows code during the clean install. This is a very non user-friendly way of doing things, not surprising coming from Microsoft.
• Once I finally got up and running though things went fairly smoothly. There are some bugs (like the one where I launched a pinned Steam game and the Windows start menu retains focus and prevents the game from launching in full screen mode), but overall the experience has been good for me. To be fair, I don't use many features of Windows or run many programs on that machine. My Windows box is a purpose built gaming machine and games are literally the only thing I do on that PC, I use my Macs for everything else and as my daily drivers. The first thing I did after installed was go in and disable a bunch of the features of Windows, so I'm probably not the best person to comment on how well it works. I know that it runs and runs my games very well.

I upgraded Windows because of some issues I was having with Windows 7. I have a couple games are aren't very great ports on PC and crash fairly regularly (GTA Online is the primary offender at the moment). Windows 7 doesn't have great memory management and has a really poor error handling system, so GTA would crash frequently and when it would crash would kill audio on the whole system forcing a reboot. The crashes aren't the fault of Windows, those are the fault of the bad QC at Rockstar Games, but Windows 7 wasn't really helping anything either.

Windows 10 has been much better so far. I've had the game crash only once in a couple days of use (on Windows 7 I would have seen a half dozen crashes by now). When the game did crash it didn't take Windows down with it, Windows 10 is much more graceful at handling errors and I was able to boot right back in to the game.

Overall I'm happy with the product, but the install process needs to be improved.

mantis

Why a clean install? With Apple I've never ever had to do that.

sucks2beme

Once again, Windows runs on hardware that has 1000's
of variations. And it runs a lot of software, including a lot
of old stuff that shouldn't run. If Microsoft decided to only support
a couple of hardware formats and limited software, the coding would
be easier. Being this robust comes at a cost.
And MS hardware is cheaper than MAC. So you can either pay more for
MAC and not have to mess with it much, or pay less and have
more hardware/software options and the headaches that come with it.

Polkitup2

I upgraded a week ago and had pretty good success except my newer HP Envy printer wouldn't always work and it could never shut down on its own because an HP printer app had issues. I also got the equivalent of a blue screen once. But now today it won't boot at all just a blank screen. Bummer...luckily I have a MAC that ALWAYS works! Probably see if I can revert back to Windows 7 somehow.

westmassguy

Polkitup2 wrote: »

I upgraded a week ago and had pretty good success except my newer HP Envy printer wouldn't always work and it could never shut down on its own because an HP printer app had issues. I also got the equivalent of a blue screen once. But now today it won't boot at all just a blank screen. Bummer...luckily I have a MAC that ALWAYS works! Probably see if I can revert back to Windows 7 somehow.

There's a lot of know issues with the upgrade, blue screen and not booting are just a few. If you made a backup of Win7/8, then I'd revert back for now.

WilliamM2

Windows 10 SR1 was released on Wednesday. Supposed to fix many issues. Although only getting a black screen may be a hardware fault, and not Windows. You will usually get something on the screen, even if it won't boot.

Polkitup2

Couldn't quite get it going using my Windows 7 recovery disks, but had Windows 8 media and got it going on that. Pretty much lost everything that was previously installed but all my data is backed up. Problem is I hate Windows 8, so will probably upgrade to Windows 10 again when the 143 updates for Windows 8 are complete - lol

WilliamM2

You don't need the updates if you download the usb tool from the link above. Just boot into 8 and update.

gce

I've had 10 the day it came out. The only bugs I've had is getting used to it. That took about 3 or 4 days. I'm having no problems with it and really like Edge, much better then IE11.

For those who don't want to lose IE11 and how they have it setup you still have it with Windows 10. So you can go back and forth from Edge and IE11 and I've notice that Edge is faster and has less problems that IE11 had.

All in all 10 is a winner in my book and the more they update 10 and Edge the better it'll get.