RCA caps
muncybob
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Wasn't sure where to post this but I guess it's 2 channel related. At this time I have several pairs of RCA plugs unused on my preamp and figured maybe I should get some caps on them. Of course you can spend just a few bucks on 10 or twice as much for half as many. As long as they are snug fitting and made of metal is there really any appreciable difference between them?
Yep, my name really is Bob.
Parasound HCA1500A(indoor sound) and HCA1000(outdoor sound), Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Marantz UD7007, Polk L600, Rythmik L12 sub.
Parasound HCA1500A(indoor sound) and HCA1000(outdoor sound), Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Marantz UD7007, Polk L600, Rythmik L12 sub.
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I have an NAD pre with many inputs, and I put cheap RCA plugs I had on hand in all the unused ones. I could hear an improvement in SQ: a bit better clarity. Supposedly the theory behind plugging them is to prevent stray EMI or RFI from entering through the inputs and contaminating the signal."Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer
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I have not used these yet, but am also interested. I have read that you should use a shorting cap, with a center post on RCA inputs, but only caps, without center posts, on RCA outputs. Hope someone else replies as there may be others interested. Thanks.
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My RCA Caps are from Vincent like my Preamp & amplifier, are they better ? I can't really tell yet
but they look good2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge
HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD -
I use the Cardas Signature version on my 2 channel rigs. Although I can't say I heard a difference, they do no harm and protect the jacks from dust and oxidation.
The really cheap ones at Audio Advisor or Parts Express (can't remember which) are plastic, not metal. There's an audio business on Audiogon that is selling some metal ones they had made for a really good price, $60.00 for 50 caps. I'll probably get some of those for my AVR.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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My old Denon DRA-835 came with shorting plugs for the unused RCA inputs as did a Pioneer Elite amp that I had. The did make a difference in reducing the background noise.Stan
Main 2ch:
Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.
HT:
Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60
Other stuff:
Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601 -
I have yet to see the shorting type. Here are some basically $1/ea:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K1VTL0I?colid=2YJZ3UC2IHQC3&coliid=I1UXHI2M7D1E8N&psc=1&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttlYep, my name really is Bob.
Parasound HCA1500A(indoor sound) and HCA1000(outdoor sound), Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Marantz UD7007, Polk L600, Rythmik L12 sub. -
Here's an AK discussion link on caps and shorting plugs. I would like a more definitive answer also. Why risk using the input shorting plugs if the caps will reduce possible floor noise as well. http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=513861
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Nether covers nor shorting plugs at the inputs will accomplish anything!
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Speedskater wrote: »Nether covers nor shorting plugs at the inputs will accomplish anything!
but they look good no reason I see not to use them2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge
HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD -
Speedskater wrote: »Nether covers nor shorting plugs at the inputs will accomplish anything!
Yes they will.... Take money from you.Pio Elete Pro 520
Panamax 5400-EX
Sunfire TGP 5
Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
PS Audio GCPH phono pre
Sunfire CG 200 X 5
Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
OPPO BDP-83 SE
SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
Onkyo TX-DS898
GFA 555
Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
Ft - SDA 1C
Not being used:
RTi 38's -4
RT55i's - 2
RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
LSI 15's
CSi40
PSW 404 -
I stand corrected:
a] Caps will do something...keep dust off and out of the connectors...that's something.
b] they look good no reason I see not to use them
c] Yes they will.... Take money from you.
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I'm not expecting any change in sound but would welcome any perceived improvement. For the small investment I need to make, keeping the jacks clean is worthwhile to me.Yep, my name really is Bob.
Parasound HCA1500A(indoor sound) and HCA1000(outdoor sound), Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Marantz UD7007, Polk L600, Rythmik L12 sub. -
d] You'll get a warm fuzzy feeling knowing they are back there.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
here are the ones i use.
http://highend-electronics.com/products/highend-electronics-analog-terminator-shortiesAmplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
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d] You'll get a warm fuzzy feeling knowing they are back there.
That's what I told the wife... That didn't work
2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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Perhaps it depends on the equipment. The Pioneer Elite M91 had noticeably less background noise when the plugs were in the unused jacks. The Denon too but not as much difference. It would seem that the manufacturers included the things for good reason.
This is a little different but my Parasound pre-amp has background noise if nothing is connected to any of the inputs. This drove me nuts troubleshooting. Then I connected a CD player and the noise went away no matter what input was selected.Stan
Main 2ch:
Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.
HT:
Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60
Other stuff:
Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601