Looking for an amp to drive LSi 15

Looking for an amp to run my LSi15's. My Denon AVR 3310ci just isn't cutting it. Planning on using the pre's on the Denon but would like to try another amp. I don't want to spend much more than$500 for it and am not opposed to used. Any idea's on what to look for would be of great help.
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,648
    Parasound 1200 or 1500 would be a good match.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    You want something with 200 watts at 8 ohms and more than 300 watts at 4 ohms.

    Parasound HCA-1200, 1500.

    B&K 200.2

    Emotiva 2 channel....

    With a 500 budget you should be able to find something.
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  • Buke9
    Buke9 Posts: 31
    You want something with 200 watts at 8 ohms and more than 300 watts at 4 ohms.

    Parasound HCA-1200, 1500.

    B&K 200.2

    Emotiva 2 channel....

    With a 500 budget you should be able to find something.
    Thanks all for the suggestions. This is something I wanted to know what kind of power it needs.
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    Parasound 1200 or 1500 would be a good match.
    Thanks ZTFUL for all your help. By the way love your avatar. Big Trek fan and it's just fitting to the things I feel right now. I was looking at some Adcom amps before asking are they in the league of the Parasounds ? I have found many more of these for sale but that might be a sign don't know. At least now I have a starting point for searching. Just sucks all the good audio stores closed down in my area. Would be nice to check out options in person but it is what it is. I like the balanced inputs of the Parasound's as I am waiting on a balanced headphone amp from Cavalli and will be getting a balanced DAC just to see what balanced does for sound reproduction on my MrSpeaker Alpha Dogs.
  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
    Another Parasound vote.

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  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
    If you want to buy the last amp ever for any speaker there's a minty HCA-3500 for sale in the Polk Classifieds.
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  • bryantspaint
    bryantspaint Posts: 114
    I second HCA-3500
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,554
    He's only got 11 post, so why are you suggesting anything in the Flea Market!?!
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    F1nut wrote: »
    He's only got 11 post, so why are you suggesting anything in the Flea Market!?!

    Since he's the one selling it I dont see a problem with that lol... He'd be the one on the hook if anything shady happens...

    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,759
    F1nut wrote: »
    He's only got 11 post, so why are you suggesting anything in the Flea Market!?!

    Since he's the one selling it I dont see a problem with that lol... He'd be the one on the hook if anything shady happens...

    Still don't want to encourage it IMO...

  • Buke9
    Buke9 Posts: 31
    I guess all the amps you all suggest all are pretty good because it is hard to find one for sale. I have a while before I can buy anything at the moment as I have laid out to much on headphones and headphone amps ( I like all my body parts and the wife says I could lose some if I don't stop spending). I have found some Adcom amps fairly cheap but I guess no one here thinks much of these since no response to earlier question on them. Well the search goes on. I have some non audio things to sell maybe I can generate a little more funds for decent amp.
  • Buke9
    Buke9 Posts: 31
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    If you can find an Adcom GFA-5802 that would be great. however it is typically outside your price range in the used market.
    So a GFA-555 not a good amp? There are so many of those to be had for little money.
  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 5,117
    edited May 2015
    Buke9 wrote: »
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    If you can find an Adcom GFA-5802 that would be great. however it is typically outside your price range in the used market.
    So a GFA-555 not a good amp? There are so many of those to be had for little money.

    I have a GFA 555 and it drives SAD's good. Also used it on my 15's with no issues.
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
    edited May 2015
    Woo, ruffled some feathers I see. My apologies, not a habitual post count checker. :\ I guess he'll have to find it on USAudiomart where he doesn't need 100 posts to view it, which I find highly unlikely as its over twice his budget and certainly hasn't contacted me over it so smooth those feathers boys. ;)

    No experience with Adcom, though as it was said they've got the specs to happily run them.
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,202
    I ran mine off of an Adcom 545 with decent results. You could always buy one of the ones you mentioned now and upgrade to a Parasound later on down the road if you chose to do so. You'd be able to get your money back on the Adcom.
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  • Buke9
    Buke9 Posts: 31
    After a little crossover surgery the LSi15's are brought back from the dead.My iron tip was too big to get to all the resistors so I just replaced the ones for the tweeter(the ones that were bad). The caps and inductors are glued down and would have to be removed to replace the other resistors which are also glued down. If I am going to do that then I will replace all components with higher quality ones. For now they are working so I will give this a try . I don't know which amp I will go with but I can tell my AVR doesn't do them justice.
  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    The Aragon 2004 might be rated at 100W @ 8ohm but it doubles its power at 4ohm, hence its name; 200W @4ohm, 2004. Stable all the way down to 1ohm loads. All I can say mine has had no trouble powering anything on its way, including not only LSi15's but also SDA's and more importantly something as notorious as the DQ-10's that are very hard on amps. Not only that but it is one of the best sounding amplifiers I have heard.

    I cannot say what the condition of that amplifier on E-bay is in but if it is in fair shape it would be hard to find anything better for the money.
  • Buke9
    Buke9 Posts: 31
    nbrowser wrote: »
    Buke, just mind the volume dial until you get an amp lest you fry resistors or tweets :)
    Learned my lesson. I'll stick to my headphones for music until I get an amp. I think I might go for a Adcom GFA-555. I have found several for under $400. The Aragon would just stress my budget with shipping and I still have to buy a new DAC. Thanks for the suggestions to all. It has been a real big help. Most of the good shops have closed in the area so it's hard to make a choice for audio equipment without auditioning them. So it is a great help to hear from people that own the equipment to get a better idea than just throwing darts.

  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 5,117
    Buke9 wrote: »
    nbrowser wrote: »
    Buke, just mind the volume dial until you get an amp lest you fry resistors or tweets :)
    Learned my lesson. I'll stick to my headphones for music until I get an amp. I think I might go for a Adcom GFA-555. I have found several for under $400. The Aragon would just stress my budget with shipping and I still have to buy a new DAC. Thanks for the suggestions to all. It has been a real big help. Most of the good shops have closed in the area so it's hard to make a choice for audio equipment without auditioning them. So it is a great help to hear from people that own the equipment to get a better idea than just throwing darts.

    I have. GFA 555 and have used it for SAD's and the 15's, no issues at all, works great.
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • Buke9
    Buke9 Posts: 31
    vmaxer wrote: »
    Buke9 wrote: »
    nbrowser wrote: »
    Buke, just mind the volume dial until you get an amp lest you fry resistors or tweets :)
    Learned my lesson. I'll stick to my headphones for music until I get an amp. I think I might go for a Adcom GFA-555. I have found several for under $400. The Aragon would just stress my budget with shipping and I still have to buy a new DAC. Thanks for the suggestions to all. It has been a real big help. Most of the good shops have closed in the area so it's hard to make a choice for audio equipment without auditioning them. So it is a great help to hear from people that own the equipment to get a better idea than just throwing darts.

    I have. GFA 555 and have used it for SAD's and the 15's, no issues at all, works great.
    Thanks for your input . I know there are another 100 amps that would sound better or maybe not for the limited funds I have. I have found that sound is so subjective to each person. I have listened to things that people have said that were crap and I

  • Buke9
    Buke9 Posts: 31
    thought they were great.
  • Buke9
    Buke9 Posts: 31
    Sorry for that . Fingers got a little ahead of my brain or the other way around. Just gotta say I'm listening for the first time 24 bit music thru my little Fiio X1 into aux thru the Denon AVR 3100CI and boy is there a difference. It is a bigger difference than I hear on my headphones.
  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,648
    I had 3 GFA-555s running my HT setup and I enjoyed them. They weren't bad or good...they just were.
    I moved on to the GFA-5500 and 5503 and enjoyed those as well.
    But I like for things to move me and ended up moving away from Adcom in general.

    Not a bad amp at all.
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    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
  • Buke9
    Buke9 Posts: 31
    Well I went and did it got a Adcom GFA-555 for $270 with shipping on eBay. It has a little cosmetic damage on the cooling fans but the front looks ok. It said tested and sounds great so a shot in the dark. For the money it was worth the shot. Thanks all for your advice. I will give an update when the amp arrives.
  • Buke9
    Buke9 Posts: 31
    Just got the shipping notice it should arrive next Friday . Now I got to rearrange the room to make room for the speakers now that they work. I got to figure out my subwoofers . When I got the LSi's they had a deal that you got a PSW111 sub with them so I bought them separately and got two subs. I also have a JBL HT1S running thru a no name Chinese I'm sure plate amp. The JBL sits in the corner now and would block the side fire woofer of the LSi 15. I love the JBL for movies it just rocks the house literally. So the dilemma. I might be able to move it back some but then I have to move the power cords for everything. I guess I got to make it happen now that I got the new amp coming . Going to buy or make new stands for the audio video equipment. It's not a small room but 65" TV takes up a lot of space. I don't think two PSW 111's can replace the JBL for movie watching . I don't know how you guys feel about subs for music but I don't like the sound for most music. Newer music maybe but not for the older stuff. I might be wrong I don't know. I think music sounds pretty good right now thru the Denon and hope it gets a lot better from the Adcom with almost triple the power. This is going to be tuff trying to find a balance.
  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    Can you place the subs at the back of the room?
  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,648
    Sell all 3 subs and pick up an SVS SB2000 or PB2000...then thank me later.
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    Sell all 3 subs and pick up an SVS SB2000 or PB2000...then thank me later.

    This, but HSU VTF-3 Mk5. Or splurge the extra $100 and get the 15H Mk2. I've been very happy with the depth, musicality, and nuance they add to music, even on not very deep bassy music like Jazz. They add a nice depth to kick drums and upright bass without letting you know they're actually doing anything.
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  • Buke9
    Buke9 Posts: 31
    Sami wrote: »
    Can you place the subs at the back of the room?
    That is what I was thinking of doing just going to be a cable I don't have . It would be like a 20 foot rca cable. I guess I could make one. Others suggested buying a new sub that is out of the question right now. Thanks for the advice.
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    Buke9 wrote: »
    Sami wrote: »
    Can you place the subs at the back of the room?
    That is what I was thinking of doing just going to be a cable I don't have . It would be like a 20 foot rca cable. I guess I could make one. Others suggested buying a new sub that is out of the question right now. Thanks for the advice.

    Blue Jeans Cable sells the LC-1 which is a sub cable MANY people love and you can specify how long it is. It also isnt super expensive as far as cables go, especially considering the quality.

    http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/subwoofer/
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)