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nooshinjohn wrote: »And the credibility of the NFL and the commissioner continue to head south...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000492185/article/brady-suspended-4-games-patriots-forfeit-2016-first-rounder
cheat all season long and get 4 games.... just wow.
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NFL is the only sport that matters to me any more. They(officials) let that game play out knowing the balls were suspect. I hope nothing happens other than more training for officiating. Peace. D
Huh ?
No accountability on the Patriots part ? 4 games is about as lame as you can get. Well worth cheating then if you can tilt the odds in your favor for a SB win, wouldn't you say ?HT SYSTEM-
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Bill would have traded the 1st rounder anyway. It's the 2017 4th rounder that hurts.
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This sets the standard for the NFL when they discover violations of rules -- even those that have no meaningful impact on the game.
Why shouldn't teams be able to choose the level of inflation of balls they use during games? After all, when the ball changes hands on the field, the team going on offense always uses its own balls.
The rules are the rules, nevertheless; the rule was broken, which has been interpreted as a violation of the integrity of the game, not just as a violation of a meaningless rule. The Patriots got their comeuppance.
The NFL needs "to scrub" its rules to eliminate all those that are similarly meaningless. Then they can put real meat into the "integrity" of the league and the game when rule violations are discovered.
Let's see what happens when the next violation of a meaningless rule is discovered.
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This is the most BS ruling from the NFL. I guess the haters and those jealous of the great success the Patriots have had will be happy.
Yes, we're very happy!
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This is the most BS ruling from the NFL...Nothing was proven here. It was all circumstantial and with significant doubt.
Uh...don't think so. Also, you don't cooperate with the NFL's investigation and you're going to pay the price! Their record as cheaters had a lot to do with the severity of the penalty - IMHO.
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Well, I see this will fire up the Patriots and they will be onto another Super Bowl.
Go Patriots go. Tom Brady remains the greatest quarterback of all time!
My guess is, this will really get Brady's panties in a Bundchen!
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Tom Brady remains the greatest quarterback of all time!
He's very good, no doubt, however it's arguable who's the greatest ever. Joe Montana? Dan Marino? John Elway? Brett Favre? All top echelon for sure.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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Brady will appeal, the severity will be lessened and he'll, at the end of the day, miss all preseason games and pay $100k in fines. Maybe Ugz will drop his name. Big Whoop. Him and Giz make a hundred mil a year.
Ray Lewis murdered a guy and continued playing but let's focus on deflated and less aerodynamic footballs. Yowza!!
There really must not be anything else important going on in the NFL at this juncture in time......Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!! -
Tom Brady remains the greatest crybaby quarterback of all time!
I agree.
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Oh, well that changes everything. Cheat away!Hello, welcome the real world and the real world of sports. This isn't golf or tiddlywinks.
afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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I'm a fan of Brady and of the Patriots, and I nevertheless feel that they are diminished by this episode -- regardless of my comments above about the meaninglessness of the the inflation rule that they violated.
With that said, Otto Graham remains my pick for the greatest QB ever. He played when the game was really a game, not merely a big business. I believe his win/loss record still is at the top of the heap of QBs.Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.
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Xcrapi is lying...
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afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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Pats just got their new superbowl rings........
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The greatest quarterback of all time ? That's easy.
Baby Huey.
Oh, you may know him by his other name, Jim Plunkett. Oakland Raiders in the 70's.
Anybody that could fit that fat of a head into a football helmet goes right to the top of the charts in my book. Superhuman feat of strength.Sal Palooza -
The biggest form of cheating, in my opinion is, the college's "student" athletes that exit their school to join the pros......and are still functionally illiterate. Why not drop the whole ruse about them being students and admit that they're hired school employees ? It seriously cracks me up when the players state their alma maters pre-game and....... they can barely pronounce the school's name correctly. Give me a break. There are, of course, exceptions.
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Man Skip! That is depressing and scary!
There are a lot of adults, up here, who are functionally illiterate. I am seriously thinking of dedicating a good chunk of my spare time to volunteering in literacy programs that are trying to address this. I feel for these individuals and I'm also PISSED off at a school system obsessed with an "accountability mantra" that fails to CARE if people develop a love for learning or not! Testing the pants off of everyone is NOT a solution. Nor is firing people, like yourself, who are in the middle of a mess but trying to do the very best they can!
Now back to ranting and raving about Tommy? I do live in N.E., after all! lol
Where's that Polkie who tells all the nasty "golfing" stories about Brady, and hates Tom like no other?Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!
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We have this issue in the high schools as well. Don't think they get to college and magically don't know how to read or write. Over 50% of my student population is failing my class and we have 3 weeks before finals. Do you really think 50% of my students can fail and I not lose my job?
Unfortunately, many have been trained to think that way thus you get kids at college level who can't read because everyone along the line was afraid to fail them. Now that's a school system to be proud of....not !
IMHO....it should not be a reflection on you if 12 teachers prior to you failed to do what needed to be done.....or the parents for that matter. You can't tell me a parent doesn't know their kid can't read....at the grade they are suppose to anyway which is what.....preschool or 1st grade ? Maybe 2nd grade the latest ? So every teacher along the way passes the buck to the next teacher to save their own arse from scrutiny.
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I swear more than half the internet doesn't know the difference between:
their they're there
your you're
etc.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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IIRC, didn't they find like only 2 of 15 balls were under inflated, and only by 1 lb. each?
So those TWO balls were responsible for the 45-7 blowout?I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE! -
Only one of the allotted balls was correctly inflated, the one used for kicking. Yep, they cheated.Political Correctness'.........defined
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No biggie.... my understanding is that Tom Brady has been playing with under-inflated balls his entire life.Only one of the allotted balls was correctly inflated, the one used for kicking. Yep, they cheated.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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The Patriots cheat? Say it aint so Joe!
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Man, this thread has certainly morphed!
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afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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I apologize for raising the subject, which was done only in jest!
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