Clapton is God
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I don't think I could put Hendrix as only a Cherub Jesse. Clapton is phenominal though for sure.
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Agreed
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Not even in the top ten. IMO
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Sorry, I hate statements like that...top ten what???Not even in the top ten. IMO
Top ten greatest guitarists in terms of technical ability? You're right there, and in fact the 'best' guitarists in the world are very likely gonna all be people most have never heard. Even guys like Satriani don't make that list.
Top ten greatest in terms of feel, musicality, and just general awesomeness? He easily makes that list, name me ten people ahead of him. He's not top on that list for me personally, but I could make a strong case for it. In terms of only guitar Neal Morse is probably my favorite but as an overall musician and songwriter Clapton is near the top of my list. -
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Sorry, I hate statements like that...top ten what???Not even in the top ten. IMO
Top ten greatest guitarists in terms of technical ability? You're right there, and in fact the 'best' guitarists in the world are very likely gonna all be people most have never heard. Even guys like Satriani don't make that list.
Top ten greatest in terms of feel, musicality, and just general awesomeness? He easily makes that list, name me ten people ahead of him. He's not top on that list for me personally, but I could make a strong case for it. In terms of only guitar Neal Morse is probably my favorite but as an overall musician and songwriter Clapton is near the top of my list.
Well said. I've seen (relatively) unknown guitarists in small bars (one guitarist in particular) that has much more technical ability than Clapton, but Clapton's combined musical abilities and his career contributions FAR outweigh what that guy will accomplish.
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In today's world of music, I appreciate Yo-Yo Ma above all other individual musicians. Not only has he elevated performance on the cello to new levels of musicality and technical virtuosity, he has extended the range of its musical canon and influence far outside conventional limits.
Furthermore, he has brought together musicians of extraordinarily diverse styles, genres and traditions to make beautiful music and both unify the world of music and expand the horizons of music lovers -- making accessible music from around the globe to people largely steeped in their own singular musical traditions.
I am thinking of such examples as the performances of The Silk Road Ensemble and his collaboration with Edgar Meyer, Mark O'Connor, Chris Thile, James Taylor, Sergio and Odair Assad, Paquito D'Rivera, and many, many others -- both instrumental and vocal.
The title of one of his albums, perhaps, best expresses my respect for Yo-Yo Ma: "Silk Road Journeys: Beyond the Horizon."
On a more personal note, I would add that my daughter, who has studied the violin since 1992, shared a stand in the New England Conservatory Orchestra with his daughter Emily Ma. As a result my wife and I were very fortunate to have met Yo-Yo Ma and to have spoken with him on a few occasions. He is not only a superb musician and charismatic leader, he is a warm, open and humble human being. The smile you see on his face in so many pictures is infectious and inspiring.Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.
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He was pretty good when younger and rocking. Average now.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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(as if my opinion mattered or even had any real legitimacy...) I am glad that Clapton has had a long and successful career, and that he came back from the cliff of heroin addiction. But... I actually never thought he was that interesting as a guitarist. He was all the rage when I was growing up; being a little too young for Cream, there's a whole generation of us that dutifully bought & listened to (and/or cleaned dope on) History of Eric Clapton. And its an OK record. But only OK. My favorite tracks were the ancient I Ain't Got You (Yardbirds) and Badge, which I reckon owed as much to "L'Angelo Mysterioso" (George Harrison) as it did to EC.
Probably part of my problem is a lack of appreciation for white British kids playing da Blooze... but I just never understood what all the fuss about Clapton was about. Of course, I never thought much of Jimmy Page, either. Way too much ego there for me.
Townshend was my idea of a guitar deity... even though, technically, he was never any great shakes -- he seemed to work hard enough at it (even if partly for visual effect) to make up for that. I never had the impression that Clapton was working very hard (which, in fairness, may reflect how good -- well-practiced -- he was). I just rarely heard much spirit in his playing.
One (possible) exception was his time with "Delaney & Bonnie & Friends" -- there are a series of Youtube videos of their somewhat infamous tours (which, feature some other rather well-known, unemployed Brit-rockers, but perhaps not EC, as I recall) that are just amazingly energetic.
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What about that story of Clapton and Hendrix and the "anxiety" Hendrix instilled in the guitar King (Eric)? Turned him white and made him doubt himself, supposedly.
I'm NOT a music historian like some of you are. I remember a guy at a Polk fest who was a crazy fan of some group (can't recall which one, just remember it was one I never thought twice about). He'd read all the books, knew all the songs, the members, their bios, etc. To tell you the truth, I've NEVER understood such obsessions, and they often occur in people who aren't even that musical themselves (those who have no experience playing anything themselves other than CDs, LPS, etc.). But hey, we need diversity in the world. My son is pretty much tone deaf and whenever he sings we usually exit the room, politely. I've never heard him sing on key! But he's great with multiple regressions and the like! lol
Clapton is certainly technically proficient and gifted at what he does, but like someone else has said above, he does NOT do it for me. I don't find myself being wowed by his compositions or performances. I think, OK, that's not bad, listenable, and well played. My soul remains untouched.
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I just finished listening to a Clapton concert from '09 when I made the OP. I'm listening to it again right now. Technical ability, who cares. Average now, hardly. No soul, better check yours. Clapton knows how to make the music flow, he knows how to boogie.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Clapton is God was graffitti around London in the mid to late 60's when he was making a name for himself. He's not the fastest, but certainly one of the smoothest. I don't care for alot of his pop stuff, but man can he play the blues. Not the fastest, but such good tone and musical taste. Crossroads is still one of my favorite performances ever.
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I think that the tension in Cream was what made 'em what they were -- in the absence of such tension, artists get boring.
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They both used to be in Graham Bond's Organization, a jazz based group. They used to sabotage each other's equipment before a gig. That would have been pretty funny to an onlooker."Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer
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Oh yeah,, has anyone said it?
Clapton is God
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Clapton knows how to make the music flow, he knows how to boogie.
I agree with this also, and likewise feel that his other nickname "Slowhand" is more appropriate.
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He can play, always has. Not the biggest fan.
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Slowhand was, as I understand it, meant ironically.
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I just finished listening to a Clapton concert from '09 when I made the OP. I'm listening to it again right now. Technical ability, who cares. Average now, hardly. No soul, better check yours. Clapton knows how to make the music flow, he knows how to boogie.
I have to agree here with Mr. Nut
Whether you love Clapton, Page, Townsend, Alvin Lee or whoever, as long as your playing music you enjoy on the old Hi-Fi then you're good.
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I don't think I could put Hendrix as only a Cherub Jesse. Clapton is phenominal though for sure.
Hendrix was a cherub, unless you could get him to quit **** around and play the damn thing then he could be in the same league as Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, David Gilmore, SRV, Tommy Bolin etc...
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mhardy6647 wrote: »monotheist or trinitarian?
Let's not be so Christian about it. There is room for any number of Gods, or so the Polytheists claim? lol
Soul? Too big a topic with too great a history to even debate. Lots of room there too!
[To M68Bash. Totally agree with you. I met Yo-Yo Ma in Boston a number of years ago where he was on a panel with my former roommate, Tan Dun, who has written a number pieces for him and collaborated in the past. A wonderful person. Generous and refreshingly humble as well as a great talent. But now we digress from the original topic. My apologies.]
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I figured you must be referring to his late 60s and 70s output , as any thing since that with the exception of From The Craddle is a snooze fest for me, but agree Clapton is one of the greats.Home Theater
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Just watch his Crossroads concert in 1999 from MSG. He makes it look so easy and every note just makes sense. Really, just beautiful soulful playing. David Sanborn kicks butt as well on the sax!
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Really? Cant say butt?
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Ha! I said "just" a lot
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PS Now, Frank Zappa. Frank Zappa was an amazing, challenging guitarist. Maybe that's because, technically, he wasn't a guitarist at all, in any real sense of the word... but (like Ziggy Stardust) boy, could he play guitar. [/quote]
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I just finished listening to a Clapton concert from '09 when I made the OP. I'm listening to it again right now. Technical ability, who cares. Average now, hardly. No soul, better check yours. Clapton knows how to make the music flow, he knows how to boogie.
Which concert were you watching?? I have several of his and am a big fan.Pio Elete Pro 520
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Here is picture of Eric and I playing. He borrowed my guitar and amp.
I did have that guitar and amp until they were stolen.
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