Tidal HiFi launched today! CD quality streaming

markmarc

tonyb wrote: »

markmarc wrote: »

Here is the first independent review.
http://www.tonepublications.com/industry-news/tidal-music-launches-today/

Not really a review, more so an advertising. Seems though for me anyway, the "curated" approach is a turn off.

Tony, in all fairness, this was written after a one day experience. To call it advertising is wholly unfair. I overstepped in calling it a review, a better choice would have been a "first look".

AsSiMiLaTeD

Mikey081057 wrote: »

Both Spotify and Tidal let you store things offline on your mobile devices so you can listen to stuff while you are on a plane. I think spotify has 3,333 songs per account that you can listen to offline..not sure of the tidal limit is

Correct, but I believe those songs are still stored and played within their app and not available via the standard music app and able to be copied to a computer.

Mikey081057

AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »

Mikey081057 wrote: »

Both Spotify and Tidal let you store things offline on your mobile devices so you can listen to stuff while you are on a plane. I think spotify has 3,333 songs per account that you can listen to offline..not sure of the tidal limit is

Correct, but I believe those songs are still stored and played within their app and not available via the standard music app and able to be copied to a computer.

Correct shoulda mentioned that also... It's kinda cool but its not like your getting away with anything

Mikey081057

So I just added 250 albums to "my music" in Tidal searching and adding... took about 1hr.

audiocr381ve

AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »

Mikey081057 wrote: »

Both Spotify and Tidal let you store things offline on your mobile devices so you can listen to stuff while you are on a plane. I think spotify has 3,333 songs per account that you can listen to offline..not sure of the tidal limit is

Correct, but I believe those songs are still stored and played within their app and not available via the standard music app and able to be copied to a computer.

Tidal would be one's new "standard" music app if they're using it, no? You can't burn CD's but you CAN make it available offline and you have it on all of your devices.

AsSiMiLaTeD

Sure, just wanted to clarify that though, it's not like you can copy the files to a drive and play them on a network player like the Oppo

coolsax

Signed up for my 30 day trial today.. fairly impressed with the quality and quantity of music. having a few issues with cutting out when airplaying from my iphone to Apple TV. shame it won't likely work with the Squeezebox system.

audiocr381ve

I'm having drop out issues as well. It takes a lot more bandwidth (not sure if this is the correct term) to stream lossless audio. Still getting a feel for it but so far besides the drop out issues, it's awesome.

ambiophonics

I'm streaming from iphone and iPad to Apple TV and aiprort express without issue. I think my internet connection is only 10mb. The Apple TV is hard wired into the network but that shouldn't make a difference. The router is an Airport Extreme dual band.

Mikey081057

I've been streaming from my Chromebook and my android phone without issue... doesn't matter what your internet speed is if you router doesn't have enough memory to buffer efficiently.

Bye Bye Spotify... turning you off today

coolsax

pretty sure its not my router causing drop outs.. but it may be my cable modem.. the wireless router i use streams wirelessly all over the house FLAC and Hires Flac from my server with no dropout issues. but i'm having issues with Tidal. Not just airplay but through chrome and their own desktop player as well. cable modem is super old though.. it may not be fast enough probably should take it in to time warner and get an updated one.

audiocr381ve

ambiophonics wrote: »

I'm streaming from iphone and iPad to Apple TV and aiprort express without issue. I think my internet connection is only 10mb. The Apple TV is hard wired into the network but that shouldn't make a difference. The router is an Airport Extreme dual band.

I'm thinking of upgrading to a dual band router myself. Internet has been slow but we have 3 iPhones connected at all times and sometimes even the Squeezebox Touch streaming in another system.

Mikey081057

Yes bandwidth is important, but having a modem (docsis 3.0) and a router with the capacity (memory) to buffer the incoming stream from the ISP (who do play games with bandwidth throttling) is important. This all happens before the data oes over your wireless network. Heck it could even be effected by your neighbors hammering the bandwidth...but having a modem and router that efficiently buffer the incoming data is key. I am sure over time Tidal will make their buffering better too.

audiocr381ve

Mikey081057 wrote: »

Yes bandwidth is important, but having a modem (docsis 3.0) and a router with the capacity (memory) to buffer the incoming stream from the ISP (who do play games with bandwidth throttling) is important. This all happens before the data oes over your wireless network. Heck it could even be effected by your neighbors hammering the bandwidth...but having a modem and router that efficiently buffer the incoming data is key. I am sure over time Tidal will make their buffering better too.

My new dual band router shipped and will be here tomorrow. I hope the modem Cox provided is sufficient in providing what the router needs like you mentioned.

I'm officially canceling my Spotify subscription. The difference in sound quality is well worth the price.

Mikey081057

audiocr381ve wrote: »

Mikey081057 wrote: »

Yes bandwidth is important, but having a modem (docsis 3.0) and a router with the capacity (memory) to buffer the incoming stream from the ISP (who do play games with bandwidth throttling) is important. This all happens before the data oes over your wireless network. Heck it could even be effected by your neighbors hammering the bandwidth...but having a modem and router that efficiently buffer the incoming data is key. I am sure over time Tidal will make their buffering better too.

My new dual band router shipped and will be here tomorrow. I hope the modem Cox provided is sufficient in providing what the router needs like you mentioned.

I'm officially canceling my Spotify subscription. The difference in sound quality is well worth the price.

If you are renting a modem from your ISP, you should get a Motorola Surfboard docsis 3.0 for about $90 instead of paying them $6/ month for a POS modem.

http://www.amazon.com/ARRIS-Motorola-SB6121-SURFboard-DOCSIS/dp/B004XC6GJ0/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1415167379&sr=1-2&keywords=motorola+surfboard+sb6141

audiocr381ve

Mikey081057 wrote: »

audiocr381ve wrote: »

Mikey081057 wrote: »

Yes bandwidth is important, but having a modem (docsis 3.0) and a router with the capacity (memory) to buffer the incoming stream from the ISP (who do play games with bandwidth throttling) is important. This all happens before the data oes over your wireless network. Heck it could even be effected by your neighbors hammering the bandwidth...but having a modem and router that efficiently buffer the incoming data is key. I am sure over time Tidal will make their buffering better too.

My new dual band router shipped and will be here tomorrow. I hope the modem Cox provided is sufficient in providing what the router needs like you mentioned.

I'm officially canceling my Spotify subscription. The difference in sound quality is well worth the price.

If you are renting a modem from your ISP, you should get a Motorola Surfboard docsis 3.0 for about $90 instead of paying them $6/ month for a POS modem.

http://www.amazon.com/ARRIS-Motorola-SB6121-SURFboard-DOCSIS/dp/B004XC6GJ0/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1415167379&sr=1-2&keywords=motorola+surfboard+sb6141

Thanks for the recommendation Mikey. Ordered

Mikey081057

audiocr381ve wrote: »

Mikey081057 wrote: »

audiocr381ve wrote: »

Mikey081057 wrote: »

Yes bandwidth is important, but having a modem (docsis 3.0) and a router with the capacity (memory) to buffer the incoming stream from the ISP (who do play games with bandwidth throttling) is important. This all happens before the data oes over your wireless network. Heck it could even be effected by your neighbors hammering the bandwidth...but having a modem and router that efficiently buffer the incoming data is key. I am sure over time Tidal will make their buffering better too.

My new dual band router shipped and will be here tomorrow. I hope the modem Cox provided is sufficient in providing what the router needs like you mentioned.

I'm officially canceling my Spotify subscription. The difference in sound quality is well worth the price.

If you are renting a modem from your ISP, you should get a Motorola Surfboard docsis 3.0 for about $90 instead of paying them $6/ month for a POS modem.

http://www.amazon.com/ARRIS-Motorola-SB6121-SURFboard-DOCSIS/dp/B004XC6GJ0/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1415167379&sr=1-2&keywords=motorola+surfboard+sb6141

Thanks for the recommendation Mikey. Ordered

Make sure your ISP is good with that model... they should be, but it will require a network change on their side.

audiocr381ve

Mikey081057 wrote: »

audiocr381ve wrote: »

Mikey081057 wrote: »

audiocr381ve wrote: »

Mikey081057 wrote: »

Yes bandwidth is important, but having a modem (docsis 3.0) and a router with the capacity (memory) to buffer the incoming stream from the ISP (who do play games with bandwidth throttling) is important. This all happens before the data oes over your wireless network. Heck it could even be effected by your neighbors hammering the bandwidth...but having a modem and router that efficiently buffer the incoming data is key. I am sure over time Tidal will make their buffering better too.

My new dual band router shipped and will be here tomorrow. I hope the modem Cox provided is sufficient in providing what the router needs like you mentioned.

I'm officially canceling my Spotify subscription. The difference in sound quality is well worth the price.

If you are renting a modem from your ISP, you should get a Motorola Surfboard docsis 3.0 for about $90 instead of paying them $6/ month for a POS modem.

http://www.amazon.com/ARRIS-Motorola-SB6121-SURFboard-DOCSIS/dp/B004XC6GJ0/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1415167379&sr=1-2&keywords=motorola+surfboard+sb6141

Thanks for the recommendation Mikey. Ordered

Make sure your ISP is good with that model... they should be, but it will require a network change on their side.

This was in the description so I think I'm good:

• Compatible with ALL Major CABLE providers like Comcast, Cox, Charter, Time Warner, Mediacom, Bright House

Mikey081057

Make sure you do before and after speetests

http://www.speedtest.net/

that will validate your cost.

BlueFox

I was just looking at it on Amazon since I want to replace my Comcast router/modem. This is nice, but it doesn't have wi-fi, so another box also needs to be ordered.

Mikey081057

BlueFox wrote: »

I was just looking at it on Amazon since I want to replace my Comcast router/modem. This is nice, but it doesn't have wi-fi, so another box also needs to be ordered.

Correct... do you have an all in one cable modem router now?

Here is the router I have/recommend

http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-WRT1900AC-Dual-Band-Wireless-Anywhere/dp/B00KEK4Q5Q/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1415169362&sr=1-3&keywords=linksys+wireless+router

BlueFox

Yes. Some Motorola from Comcast. Works mostly fine for my needs, but there are two issues. One, I rent it. Two, and this does bug me, if I lose Internet access then the wireless also stops working. Since I control my file player over the home net, not having wireless makes the control app useless.

audiocr381ve

Mikey081057 wrote: »

Make sure you do before and after speetests

http://www.speedtest.net/

that will validate your cost.

Screenshot'ed some speed tests last night

Btw, here is the router I picked up. What do you think?

http://www.amazon.com/RT-N66U-Dual-Band-Wireless-N900-Gigabit-Router/dp/B006QB1RPY/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1415170144&sr=1-4&keywords=router

audiocr381ve

mrbiron

Good info Mike!...now I want to upgrade my aged 10 yo wireless router. My speed tests are **** compared to everyone else's which is odd. I might try one connected directly to the modem for comparison.

I have 2 Motorola surfboard 3.0s collecting dust at the moment. I bought the first one and all was well. Then my internet got choppy so I bought a second to replace the first. Charter tells me its still not them, its the modem. So now I have a charter modem for the sole reason of being able to put the blame back on charter. Come to find out, I had a bad wire and both my modems are fine. Anyone need a modem(s) :P

I'm going to give the Tidal trial a shot tonight although I am hesitant at the cost/month. I barely have the time now never mind when I'm paying for a service.

voltz

the Motorola SB6141 and such are great cable modems. then you just need a good router go with it. now if your having problems it could be the Modem or the router or the line..

audiocr381ve

Wow, pretty substantial download speed increase by just switching out the old router! New modem gets here today too so I can't wait to swap that in. I think my internet service plan doesn't let me get higher upload speeds which sucks because I'm uploading huge files to Vimeo every day.

Mikey081057

Wow nice improvement... Yeah the new routers can give you much better download speeds.

Mikey081057

mrbiron wrote: »

Good info Mike!...now I want to upgrade my aged 10 yo wireless router. My speed tests are **** compared to everyone else's which is odd. I might try one connected directly to the modem for comparison.

I have 2 Motorola surfboard 3.0s collecting dust at the moment. I bought the first one and all was well. Then my internet got choppy so I bought a second to replace the first. Charter tells me its still not them, its the modem. So now I have a charter modem for the sole reason of being able to put the blame back on charter. Come to find out, I had a bad wire and both my modems are fine. Anyone need a modem(s) :P

I'm going to give the Tidal trial a shot tonight although I am hesitant at the cost/month. I barely have the time now never mind when I'm paying for a service.

So what speed are you paying for / getting?

mrbiron

With the price I pay, I should be getting a terabyte/sec. :-P
I'd have to check when I get home but my speed tests are around 8mb/s. I think I pay for 20.