Dreadnaught Avel-Lindberg 1000VA Transformer Group Buy?

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  • woofiepaws
    woofiepaws Posts: 214
    edited July 2014
    Count me in.
    MacBook Pro running Roon-Monoprice USB-Schiit Gungir Multibit-Audioquest Earth-Schiit Freya with Tung Sol 6SN7s-Audioquest Sky-Krell FPB 400cx-Audioquest Mont Blanc-1.2tls with all the mods.
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2014
    That's 6. 4 to go. This group buy is filling up faster than the one I did two years ago, for sure.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • Mr_Hz
    Mr_Hz Posts: 176
    edited July 2014
    OK, so I got a response from Melanie from AL today with updated prices:


    Type: AV-047548 Iss 1
    10 pcs: $292.88 each

    F1nut - point well taken. Having been a member of the Alfa Romeo forum for ~10years, new members are suspect until proven otherwise, especially in matter of financials. No harm, no foul...just the nature of the collective beast.

    nspindel... thanks for stepping in to this space, taking the baton to ensure we get to the goal...10 orders.

    David, thanks for the endorsement!
    2.3TL's - Living Room
    CRS+'s (4.1 TL's) - Office
    SDA1C's - Famdamly Rm
    SDA1C's - Master Bedroom
  • Mr_Hz
    Mr_Hz Posts: 176
    edited July 2014
    My count is 7 (if all commit)

    Myself - Mr_Hz
    Moose68Bash
    Motorstereo
    crispybrown - maybe?
    vmaxer
    brgman - might be worth jumping in?
    woofiepaws

    7/seven/sieben/cemb/siete/sette/ichi.... however you want to slice/dice it...

    3 to go.
    2.3TL's - Living Room
    CRS+'s (4.1 TL's) - Office
    SDA1C's - Famdamly Rm
    SDA1C's - Master Bedroom
  • Mr_Hz
    Mr_Hz Posts: 176
    edited July 2014
    Oh, and ToolFan66,

    Thanks for your offer:
    "If you guys get enough interest, and get them ordered I will build the aluminum cases for them if you all would like to go that route.
    I will even make them for the speakons or binding posts.."

    I joined the Polk Community late (especially considering I've been an owner/enthusiast/private spokesperson since 1985) so I've missed out on some of your hardware fabrication offerings to members. Always great when folks step up with replacement/upgrade parts to help continue/improve the breed.

    Grazie Mille
    2.3TL's - Living Room
    CRS+'s (4.1 TL's) - Office
    SDA1C's - Famdamly Rm
    SDA1C's - Master Bedroom
  • agfrost
    agfrost Posts: 2,379
    edited July 2014
    Count me in.

    Jay
    Jay
    SDA 2BTL * Musical Fidelity A5cr amp * Oppo BDP-93 * Modded Adcom GDA-600 DAC * Rythmik F8 (x2)
    Micro Seiki DQ-50 * Hagerman Cornet 2 Phono * A hodgepodge of cabling * Belkin PF60
    Preamp rotation: Krell KSL (SCompRacer recapped) * Manley Shrimp * PS Audio 5.0
  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 1,811
    edited July 2014
    Wow we're getting there. Put me down for one of the aluminum cases to Larry.
  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 4,965
    edited July 2014
    We need a few more bump.
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • Inthefade
    Inthefade Posts: 180
    edited July 2014
    I may be in as well, that is if I can get enough scratch together in time for the order.
  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 4,965
    edited July 2014
    Lasareath wrote: »
    Before you submit the order please PM me because I may get one as well.

    So I have no problem being #11

    Thanks!

    Sal,

    You should be in for at least 3 or 4:lol:
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • stogie
    stogie Posts: 230
    edited July 2014
    Put me in for one. I've built the dreadnought using the AL 800va Y236906 and would like to compare. Thanks for putting this buy together.
    Speakers: Polk SDA-SRS xovers rebuilt by David, RDO194's, Dynamat, BH5, glued magnets, new cloth, custom aluminum terminal plates with Cardas posts and Speakon interconnect
    Speaker Cables, Jumpers & Interconnect: DIY Douglas Connection
    Power Amp: Sunfire Architect's Choice Series II
    Preamp: Adcom GFP-750
    SACD/CD: Oppo BDP-95
    Tuner: Sansui TU-717
    TT: Technics SL-MA1
    Phono Pre: Emotiva XPS-1
    Music Server: Mac Mini w/JRiver - iPad w/JRemote
    DAC: Eastern Electric MiniMax Plus
    Other Polks: SDA: 1A, 1C, 2B, CRS+ / Monitor: 10A, 5jr, 4 / RT5
  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 2,590
    edited July 2014
    Just a thought, The way this is going, you might want to check with Melanie and see what run of 20 will cost??

    G
    Power Rogue M180 monos & Adcom GFA 5802
    PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Rears Salk SuperCharged Surrounds
    Source PSA PWT into NSD Supremo
    Pre/Pro Integra DHC 40.1
    LCD Samsung LN46B750
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Center Salk HT2C
    Pre Cary SLP-05
    Wires WW & MIT
  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 4,965
    edited July 2014
    What is the official count now?
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • Mr_Hz
    Mr_Hz Posts: 176
    edited July 2014
    Official count:

    There are still a couple of 'weak commits' but here is the list:

    Myself - Mr_Hz
    Moose68Bash
    Motorstereo
    crispybrown - maybe?
    vmaxer
    brgman - might be worth jumping in?
    woofiepaws
    agfrost
    Lasareath - PM me before order- may commit
    Inthefade - maybe
    Stogie -

    That's 11 that have expressed interest, but only 7 with a 'solid' commitment. The 4 that are 'sitting on the fence' now that we have a 'quorum' comprising your 'possible interest,' are you ready to commit to make this a reality? Please make your intentions known so we can move forward with an order.

    Thanks!
    2.3TL's - Living Room
    CRS+'s (4.1 TL's) - Office
    SDA1C's - Famdamly Rm
    SDA1C's - Master Bedroom
  • Mr_Hz
    Mr_Hz Posts: 176
    edited July 2014
    So Lasareath... does that mean you are 'in or out' for this 1000ka order. Please clarify.

    Quote:

    "Before you submit the order please PM me because I may get one as well.

    So I have no problem being #11

    Thanks! "

    Need to know your intentions, specifically. Yes, or no? I don't need to know your inventory (don't mean to be crass, just want specific info.)
    2.3TL's - Living Room
    CRS+'s (4.1 TL's) - Office
    SDA1C's - Famdamly Rm
    SDA1C's - Master Bedroom
  • Mr_Hz
    Mr_Hz Posts: 176
    edited July 2014
    Those sitting on the fence, deciding yes/no. PLEASE be specific in your response so we know whether you are IN or OUT for this group buy. Obviously this appears to be moving quite swiftly towards purchase. Seven committed members already... so your intentions now become very important as we move towards the minimum order of 10. In your response, please do not leave any ambiguity...either you're 'IN' or you're 'OUT' for this round... please clarify.

    Any other respondents, please also be specific with your intentions. When we submit an order to the manufacturer we need 10 'solid' orders, no one that will opt out at the last moment.

    Thanks for your consideration of this purchase as we move towards the minimum # required to place this order.
    2.3TL's - Living Room
    CRS+'s (4.1 TL's) - Office
    SDA1C's - Famdamly Rm
    SDA1C's - Master Bedroom
  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 4,965
    edited July 2014
    Mr_Hz wrote: »
    Those sitting on the fence, deciding yes/no. PLEASE be specific in your response so we know whether you are IN or OUT for this group buy. Obviously this appears to be moving quite swiftly towards purchase. Seven committed members already... so your intentions now become very important as we move towards the minimum order of 10. In your response, please do not leave any ambiguity...either you're 'IN' or you're 'OUT' for this round... please clarify.

    Any other respondents, please also be specific with your intentions. When we submit an order to the manufacturer we need 10 'solid' orders, no one that will opt out at the last moment.

    Thanks for your consideration of this purchase as we move towards the minimum # required to place this order.


    I am in for sure.
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • Mr_Hz
    Mr_Hz Posts: 176
    edited July 2014
    Thanks vmaxer... I show you as one of the solid ''commits.' Any member that doesn't have a comment following thier name is considered one of the 7 members who has committed to this group buy.

    If that is an incorrect assumption, please let your intentions be known NOW.
    2.3TL's - Living Room
    CRS+'s (4.1 TL's) - Office
    SDA1C's - Famdamly Rm
    SDA1C's - Master Bedroom
  • Mr_Hz
    Mr_Hz Posts: 176
    edited July 2014
    I'll state that Melanie /Avel Lindberg stated that 50% is due at order... but she did not clarify 'when' the order would be ready for shipment. Obviously the remaining 50% would need to be collected/sent before any of us could receive these 1000KA transformers.

    Does that help those that have expressed interest, but still undecided?
    2.3TL's - Living Room
    CRS+'s (4.1 TL's) - Office
    SDA1C's - Famdamly Rm
    SDA1C's - Master Bedroom
  • Mr_Hz
    Mr_Hz Posts: 176
    edited July 2014
    The 7 that have committed to purchase, and those that follow. Please forward your shipping information to nspindel. Melanie/Avel Lindberg has indicated that they can ship directly to recipeints, even if the purchase is done by one source (nspindel).

    This will alleviate the need for nspindel to forward individual purchases to members. The factory is willing to send direct as long as they have the necessary information and the order is paid for completely.
    2.3TL's - Living Room
    CRS+'s (4.1 TL's) - Office
    SDA1C's - Famdamly Rm
    SDA1C's - Master Bedroom
  • Mr_Hz
    Mr_Hz Posts: 176
    edited July 2014
    Once we have received responses from the 4 interested/but not yet committed members... I think we should still have a waiting period (length ???) to see if anyone else wants to join the effort.

    It seems that these 1KVA isolation transformer group purchases are once in a blue moon, so we want to capture all members that are truly interested. That said, if you are vascillating on this purchase, realize that these opportunities are few and far between. There has been 1 or 2 failed attempts since the last group buy in 2012 due to failure to reach the minimum required participants. Given the committed members for this one...when will there be sufficient interest for the next purchase? Better to get on board now if you have any interest in this modification.

    Not trying to force anyone's hand, just trying to be realistic. 7 committed buyers... 3-4 possibly on their way. When will there be sufficient member interest to make another effort to purchase again?

    Look forward to your commitment post on this thread. Thanks!
    2.3TL's - Living Room
    CRS+'s (4.1 TL's) - Office
    SDA1C's - Famdamly Rm
    SDA1C's - Master Bedroom
  • Mr_Hz
    Mr_Hz Posts: 176
    edited July 2014
    Lasareath,

    I don't mean to be disparaging... just trying to clarify intent. I realize you are a senior member with 11K+ posts, and I am but a plebe in this arena. I'm sure you can understand that as one tries to tally interest in a group purchase, that every possible 'interest' post comes under scrutiny. Just trying to seek clarification, regardless of member status. In my narrow focused intent, I didn't regard that your post was to a member specifically and not to the general audience as a whole. My apologies.

    Please understand that my intended interests are pure, regardless of status.

    Regards,

    Ron/Mr_Hz
    2.3TL's - Living Room
    CRS+'s (4.1 TL's) - Office
    SDA1C's - Famdamly Rm
    SDA1C's - Master Bedroom
  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 1,811
    edited July 2014
    I forwarded my shipping info to nspindel as requested. Who is collecting the money?
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 47,365
    edited July 2014
    Who is collecting the money?

    As indicated by Mr_Hz, nspindel will be handing the ordering and therefore, the money.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • jonicont
    jonicont Posts: 272
    edited July 2014
    I'm in for a transformer and case. Info sent to nspindel
    SDA 2BTL, VPI Prime, Soundsmith Zephyr MKIII, Rogue Ares Magnum, McCormack DNA 0.5 Gold, ARC LS-17se, Cambridge cxn v2, MIT AVT MA ic’s and speaker cables, ps audio stellar power plant 3

  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2014
    Hey there. Sorry, when I volunteered to do this I didn't realize interest would build up so quickly. When I did my group buy two years ago for my transformer, it took at least a month to get ten people! Great to see that there are so many people interested in joining Club Dread. It's expensive for a transformer, but when you get it you'll understand why.

    At this point if the "maybe" people are in, we've got more than enough to place the order. My count is 12 including the maybe folks. Cripsybrown is not a maybe, he is in. I also received a PM from jonicont that he wants one.

    Since this came together so quickly, I suggest we not go ahead with the order for a while longer, we should set a deadline for committing. It's in everyone's interest to wait, I do recall that the cost per unit drops rather nicely with a larger order. I propose a deadline of July 20, and I will place the order on Monday, July 21.

    One thing to note - the cost AL quotes includes flat rate priority shipping. They assume they are shipping within the 48 continental states. If you live outside the 48 states, you'll need to let me know that because your shipping cost will be higher and I'll need to get a quote on that from Melanie.

    AL bills 50% at the time of the order and 50% at the time of shipment. They quoted me a delivery time of around 10 weeks, and ended up shipping them much sooner than that. I believe we placed the order in September, expected them at Christmas, and got them at Thanksgiving.

    However, even though AL collects 50% up front with 50% due at shipment.... I don't. I'll expect to get 100% of the cost via paypal before the order in order for you to be in. Melanie will charge my card 50% when I place the order, and she'll just charge my card the other 50% when the shipment goes out. I don't want to have to go chasing people for money a second time, so I guess that's where the trusting a long-term member part comes in. You're all going to have to fork over some dough to me and trust that I'm not heading off to the Caribbean with it.

    So I'd appreciate if the "maybe" folks would firm up their status before order date, and I will be sending around a pm in about a week asking for payment.

    Meanwhile, you're all investing wisely. I've seen a lot of these transformers bought in the past few years, and I haven't heard anyone say anything other than how much it's improved their sda performance, even with common ground amps.

    And don't forget to budget for a case from Larry. You can't beat having a custom enclosure just for this transformer, with holes pre-drilled for either binding posts or speakons. And Larry's craftsmanship is always spot on. The stands he made for me are works of art!
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,840
    edited July 2014
    You're on, and thank you!
    Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.

    Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One.

  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 1,811
    edited July 2014
    Sounds good to me on waiting till the 20th. Hopefully we'll get a few more and be able to drop the price a bit more. Thank you for doing this nspindel.
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2014
    My pleasure. Melanie makes things really easy, I just need to pass the addresses on to her and give her my credit card. So as long as everyone sends payment without me needing to chase, it's really not much more than just sending out a pm telling everyone where to send payment.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2014
    I just sent Melanie an email asking her for unit prices if we can pull together a higher quantity by the 20th. I'll post when I hear a reply.

    Any more people interested in signing on to this group buy?
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.