RTi12
tophatjohnny
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Planning on snagging a pair of these babies and hoping my Parasound 1200 HCA will do the job?? Moving away from my SDA 1B's not for any reason other than lack of ear bleed capability, and still love my SDA's for that quality vibe. Please don't try to talk me out of getting the 12's as my heart is set on it. I love the look and have heard after the break in period they will do what I want them to do...(kick my but) lol
"if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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OK Brother I will start you off.Are you out of your frickin mind?Maybe one to many drum sticks to the head? :-)
Johnny whatever floats your boat.
I think you should hang on to the 1Bs,at least in the closet for a while to be sure.
Dan -
Dan, much love for ya (you know that) and I doubt the SDA 1B's will sell, so question was poised at weather or not the Parasound 1200 HCA will serve well with the new towers?? I love my SDA 1B's and with the upgrade tweets, dynamat and Larry rings, they sing great. Just not ear shattering enough. I have the RT2000i's in the living room and they achieve the volume I like. I will hang on to my 1B's, and will not give em away. Thanks again Dan, you are a true brother to me."if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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I love my Rti12's! That amp will power them but like with anything, going bigger wouldn't hurt either. I'm running them with an SC-35 and while I know that's on the lower end of the power they need, it still sounds great.
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I think you will be OK at 200 watts.Or you could always up your power a bit,just trying to help you spend some of your money. :-)
Maybe those SDAs would put a smile on a young Marines face as a welcome home from Mom and Dad when he comes back home.
Dan -
Okay, since you're guessing they won't sell, you could send them my way
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I believe you will be disappointed if shear volume is your goal.
Your amp is rated at 205 wpc @ 8 ohm and 315 @ 4 ohm.
The 1B's are 4 ohm nominal with a 92dB efficiency rating and the RTi12's are 8 ohm with a 90dB efficiency rating, which means the 1B's will play louder. Approximately 117db for the 1B's and 113dB for the RTi12's.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Okay, since you're guessing they won't sell, you could send them my way
more like I'm guessing I wont well the 1B's. I still love em!!I believe you will be disappointed if shear volume is your goal.
When we took the RT2000i towers up to the bedroom to check out the volume difference it was night and day, with the RT's just killing the 1B's in volume, so why wouldn't the RTi12's do just as good if not better with the volume??
Your amp is rated at 205 wpc @ 8 ohm and 315 @ 4 ohm.
The 1B's are 4 ohm nominal with a 92dB efficiency rating and the RTi12's are 8 ohm with a 90dB efficiency rating, which means the 1B's will play louder. Approximately 117db for the 1B's and 113dB for the RTi12's."if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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I would set the bar a little higher for amplification to drive the 12's. All those woofers suck a LOT of power, I ran 325 wpc into mine and they still wanted more.
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Johnny, I had the 12s and they will slam. You could always power the bottoms with the parasound and power the tops with the Onk and see what you think
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Thanks D. doing that is waaay above my head, and in doing this, would it hurt anything?? other than that, already looking at a more powerful amp. Don't see how I'd control the volume if I separated the parasound and the onk to do this?? Wouldn't the onk only control the tops??"if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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tophatjohnny wrote: »Thanks D. doing that is waaay above my head, and in doing this, would it hurt anything?? other than that, already looking at a more powerful amp. Don't see how I'd control the volume if I separated the parasound and the onk to do this?? Wouldn't the onk only control the tops??
Nope, the onk will control both. I did this with mine using a Kenwood Basic M2 (220wpc) for the bottoms and the Pio for the tops. Bottom end really came out. Are you bi wiring now? -
tophatjohnny wrote: »more like I'm guessing I wont sell the 1B's. I still love em!!
I meant sell...oh well?//lol"if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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Nope, the onk will control both. I did this with mine using a Kenwood Basic M2 (220wpc) for the bottoms and the Pio for the tops. Bottom end really came out. Are you bi wiring now?
D, I am in the dark as far as (bi wiring goes) and not to sharp with any of it..you know that. I just like it sounding good, and good and louder than the 1B's is what I'm after. sending you another PM"if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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Goodness..to rich for my blood, although we just hit on a pick 5 50 cent ticket, so we may have some extra dough here this morning?? headed over to Krogers to see what we won as soon as our Granddaughter is picked up at 10am. wish me luck, never won before."if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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I first ran my A9's on an Emotiva XPA-2 stereo amp, 300wpc, I'm now running them off a pair of those in bridged mode which supplies 860wpc..............I must say, it's very nice.Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2
Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)
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When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman -
I have a set of RTi12's. I have amped them two ways, both using 2 Carver TFM-35's. I have powered one speaker with each amp. This would provide 700 watts to each speaker and I currently have them bi-amped which provides 250 watts to the HF and 250 watts to the LF. I am not sure I understand the reasons but I think the bi-amped sounds better and gives more detail. I never get my Carver C-11 pre higher than about 25% but the volume is substantial.Main-Carver TFM35(2),Carver C11 ,Carver SD/A 360 CD,Carver TX11 ,Grace Digital Tuner, Pioneer PL707 TT,Polk SDA1C
Downstairs -Carver M1.5t, Carver C1 Pre, Carver TX10 Tuner, Carver TL3200 CD Player, Dual 1009 TT,Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl
Study - Carver AV634 Amp, Carver CT7 Pre, Carver DTL50 CD Player, Polk RTA12c -
tophatjohnny wrote: »Goodness..to rich for my blood, although we just hit on a pick 5 50 cent ticket, so we may have some extra dough here this morning?? headed over to Krogers to see what we won as soon as our Granddaughter is picked up at 10am. wish me luck, never won before.
struck out on the lotto ticket. The numbers were not in order and it was a straight to win. Wife punched it in the computer and it said we won something?? Notta ! oh well."if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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When we took the RT2000i towers up to the bedroom to check out the volume difference it was night and day, with the RT's just killing the 1B's in volume, so why wouldn't the RTi12's do just as good if not better with the volume??
Then something is wrong with your SDA's.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Then something is wrong with your SDA's.
Johnny, did you ever get anyone to look into those "faulty" SDAs you had? The ones that didn't even have any wires to the big woofers at the bottoms of the cabinets.
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teekay0007 wrote: »Johnny, did you ever get anyone to look into those "faulty" SDAs you had? The ones that didn't even have any wires to the big woofers at the bottoms of the cabinets.
That might be the problem right there. ;-)
no, still no wires hooked up to them big woffers at the bottom, but the SDA God'd mysteriously send a booming sound through both of those faulty holes anyway?? Can't figure that one out for the life of me??"if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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It seems the tweeters are shutting down in the 1B's at higher volume levels. The polyswitches are shot and need to be replaced with new RDE090A's or jumped or replaced with a .5 ohm resistor.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
It seems the tweeters are shutting down in the 1B's at higher volume levels. The polyswitches are shot and need to be replaced with new RDE090A's or jumped or replaced with a .5 ohm resistor.
Trying to figure that out and will get on it"if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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Dude, I know you want those 12's especially at such a great price point, God knows I enjoy jamming on my A9's 2ch style....BIG TIME!!! But if those SDA's of yours are as bad a$$ as I think they are and as everyone else here is implying.......dude, put the money into fixin those bad boys and strap in. Twice the midrange, twice the tweeter, those things (when in full operating status) have got to be fa-reaking awesome.
Do it for me or I will hunt you down and take them from you
Kidding of course but dude!!!!!Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2
Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)
EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman -
Dude, I know you want those 12's especially at such a great price point, God knows I enjoy jamming on my A9's 2ch style....BIG TIME!!! But if those SDA's of yours are as bad a$$ as I think they are and as everyone else here is implying.......dude, put the money into fixin those bad boys and strap in. Twice the midrange, twice the tweeter, those things (when in full operating status) have got to be fa-reaking awesome.
Do it for me or I will hunt you down and take them from you
Kidding of course but dude!!!!!
Yes, I am making plans to upgrade the crossovers, but still getting the 12's before I do that! The 1B's are here to stay!!"if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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Ok, came to my senses and after some research, I am off the RTi12 idea, but now thinking of LSi 25's will be more my thing in a few months here?? Trying to get my 1B's upgraded all the way first. Back to earth...if that's possible??"if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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tophatjohnny wrote: »Ok, came to my senses and after some research, I am off the RTi12 idea, but now thinking of LSi 25's will be more my thing in a few months here?? Trying to get my 1B's upgraded all the way first. Back to earth...if that's possible??
The 25s have been noted as having a more laid back sound. 4 ohm i believe. Modding is always a good idea, but it wont change the sound signature. It brings out a speakers full potential. Try and get your ears on the 25s and 12s. Only way to be sure what is going to work for you. Just my .02 -
Depends on the size of your room, but You'll need moar power if you want ear bleed status. Unless by ear bleed you mean a strained, compressed sounding music that is NOTHING but loud.
200wpc is the entry point where the 12/9's start to really sound good, but anything above 90db in my room at the MLP they started to sound strained with the Parasound HCA-2003a and 220wpc. Moving to the HCA-3500 with 350wpc and a dump truckload more current got me to about 104db before the music started sounding strained and compressed, but dear God, listening to them regularly, hell no. 85-90db is rocking out pretty good.
Keep in mind I have a 17x35 main listening area, smaller room will produce different results.Up
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Moving to the HCA-3500 with 350wpc and a dump truckload more current got me to about 104db before the music started sounding strained and compressed,
Do you have a dedicated 20 amp line running to your amp?Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
I believe you will be disappointed if shear volume is your goal.
Your amp is rated at 205 wpc @ 8 ohm and 315 @ 4 ohm.
The 1B's are 4 ohm nominal with a 92dB efficiency rating and the RTi12's are 8 ohm with a 90dB efficiency rating, which means the 1B's will play louder. Approximately 117db for the 1B's and 113dB for the RTi12's.
Don't forget 3dB is twice as loud or 1/2 as loud depending on which way you go on the dB scale - I definitely think a bigger amp is in order ;-)
