Power Amp for LSiM705

ureka3
ureka3 Posts: 5
edited May 2014 in Speakers
Need to get a power amplifier for LSiM705. Current options are Parasound 2250 v2 or Emotiva XPA 2 Gen2. Any recommendations between these two? Thank you in advance.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    edited May 2014
    Parasound
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,655
    edited May 2014
    F1nut wrote: »
    Parasound

    QFT. And I even use an Emo in my HT.
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
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  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
    edited May 2014
    Seconded.
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    Parasound HCA-3500 - HCA-2003A - Marantz SR7005
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited May 2014
    I vote Emo. Newer. Had the Gen 1 and it was a great amp. Have owned Parasound too and it's also great stuff.

    Emo is more on the bright side but NOT harsh like a lot of guys claim.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,461
    edited May 2014
    audiocr381ve wrote: »
    Emo is more on the bright side but NOT harsh like a lot of guys claim.

    To who's ears? Sound is subjective, and to many here the XPA series is akin to nails on a chalkboard, depending on the speakers used... I have heard an XPA-1 on a set of Maggie 3.7's recently and the ribbons even sounded bright to my ears.
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited May 2014
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    To who's ears? Sound is subjective, and to many here the XPA series is akin to nails on a chalkboard, depending on the speakers used... I have heard an XPA-1 on a set of Maggie 3.7's recently and the ribbons even sounded bright to my ears.

    Sure and yes sound is subjective. Nails on a chalkboard? Crazy talk.
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,655
    edited May 2014
    XPA-200, XPA-500, XPA-5 all sounded harsh to me with Monitor Series II (60s, 70s, CS1 and 30s) and LSis.

    The XPR-5 I have now on the other hand is a WHOLE other animal. For the price I paid, I would be hard pressed to beat it. But there are better options out there than the XPAs. Again, IMHO.
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited May 2014
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    XPA-200, XPA-500, XPA-5 all sounded harsh to me with Monitor Series II (60s, 70s, CS1 and 30s) and LSis.

    The XPR-5 I have now on the other hand is a WHOLE other animal. For the price I paid, I would be hard pressed to beat it. But there are better options out there than the XPAs. Again, IMHO.

    I respect that.
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  • ureka3
    ureka3 Posts: 5
    edited May 2014
    So the general consensus is Parasound 2250? I also have the option of the NAD C275 but thats a couple of hundred more than the Parasound and is rated at only 150x2 into 8 ohm.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,461
    edited May 2014
    Parasound all day and twice on Sunday.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited May 2014
    Emotiva all day and three times on Sunday. Get yourself a warranty & buy new, you deserve it.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    edited May 2014
    If a new amp still works after the first day the likelyhood that it will need repair under warranty is damn close to nil, so buying a new amp for the warranty is not a reason to do so. Buying a good condition used amp and getting a much better one than you could afford new is a reason to do so.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • Mikey081057
    Mikey081057 Posts: 7,127
    edited May 2014
    Wasn't listed as as option but:

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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited May 2014
    F1nut wrote: »
    If a new amp still works after the first day the likelyhood that it will need repair under warranty is damn close to nil, so buying a new amp for the warranty is not a reason to do so. Buying a good condition used amp and getting a much better one than you could afford new is a reason to do so.

    Sure but where we're disagreeing is whether the Parasound is better. Different, sure. Better, I disagree but respect your opinion.
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,535
    edited May 2014
    ureka3 wrote: »
    So the general consensus is Parasound 2250? I also have the option of the NAD C275 but thats a couple of hundred more than the Parasound and is rated at only 150x2 into 8 ohm.

    You may be happy with either the Parasound or Emotiva in my opinion. Emotiva apparently fixed a concern I had with their first generation XPA amps with their Gen 2 versions, which was to reduce the noise floor by reducing the gain. I haven't heard a Gen 2 amp from them to see if their changes really worked. If you're using an amp primarily for home theater I'd go with whatever is cheaper.
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  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
    edited May 2014
    Oh Jesus, no no no, not another emotiva fight...
    Up
    LSi15 LSiC - RX-V3000

    Down
    LSiM707 - 706c - 702f/x - Dual HSU VTF-15H Mk2
    Parasound HCA-3500 - HCA-2003A - Marantz SR7005
    Sim2 D60 - Dragonfly 106" Panny 500

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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited May 2014
    Inspector 24 wrote: »
    Oh Jesus, no no no, not another emotiva fight...

    Oh no, someone trying to make something of nothing.
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  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
    edited May 2014
    Ha! I've been on this board long enough and have seen a few start out this simply, as have seen similar situations about other subjects on other boards. The feels always run strong and deep in both camps.

    I say listen to all the experiences and do what works for your needs, ears and budget.
    Up
    LSi15 LSiC - RX-V3000

    Down
    LSiM707 - 706c - 702f/x - Dual HSU VTF-15H Mk2
    Parasound HCA-3500 - HCA-2003A - Marantz SR7005
    Sim2 D60 - Dragonfly 106" Panny 500

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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited May 2014
    Inspector 24 wrote: »
    Ha! I've been on this board long enough and have seen a few start out this simply, as have seen similar situations about other subjects on other boards. The feels always run strong and deep in both camps.

    I say listen to all the experiences and do what works for your needs, ears and budget.

    And I would agree with you :)
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  • ureka3
    ureka3 Posts: 5
    edited May 2014
    Thanks guys. Dont really want to start a fight. Dont have the chance to listen to the amplifiers before purchase therefore the queston.

    Between Parasound 2250 v2 (275x2) and NAD C275 BEE (150x2) does anyone have first-hand knowledge which would be better? The drawback I see is the low watt rating of the NAD.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,001
    edited May 2014
    Parasound....and dont look back.
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,903
    edited May 2014
    what price range are these amps in?
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  • ureka3
    ureka3 Posts: 5
    edited May 2014
    marvda1 wrote: »
    what price range are these amps in?
    Emotiva XPA-2 $899
    Parasound 2250 $1098
    NAD C275 $1250
    Plus shipping
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited May 2014
    ureka3 - what preamp are you using now?

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • ureka3
    ureka3 Posts: 5
    edited May 2014
    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    ureka3 - what preamp are you using now?
    My Denon 3312 will be doing the preamp duties.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited May 2014
    Wyred 4 sound st 500
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited May 2014
    Having had a Parasound, I would go with that, but I also wouldn't hesitate with the Emotiva either since it is brand new with a warrenty if you feel more comfortable with having that. But this gear is built to last for years so you can't go wrong either way.

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  • Thorton
    Thorton Posts: 1,324
    edited May 2014
    polkfarmboy wrote: »
    Wyred 4 sound st 500

    +1. I own the 1st gen. Parasound 2250 and the Wyred 4 Sound bigger brother of the ST500 in the multi-channel version. I don't think you can go wrong with either. It will be a long time before the Wyred leaves my system.
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited May 2014
    polkfarmboy wrote: »
    Wyred 4 sound st 500

    I remember you not liking your W4S amp?
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  • deafbykhorns
    deafbykhorns Posts: 150
    edited May 2014
    How about a classic Bedini, high current amp
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