Will Rti a5 with sub sound better than Rti a7 with sub?

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  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
    edited February 2014
    I fail to see how you won't enjoy this setup. :D

    Looking forward to reviews. :)
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,132
    edited February 2014
    Congratulations your gonna like that set up you did it right the first time. Enjoy your new HT set up, those cherry RTIa's sure are gorgeous cant wait to see pics and hear what you think. The search is over for now.
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  • jasonb01
    jasonb01 Posts: 43
    edited February 2014
    Here is my living room where the system will be. 16' from the tv to the back wall and 25' across. The entire room is actually about 38' across but the seating area is 25'. All of the equipment will be in that closet to the left of the tv, it's all wired for power and the speaker wires and hdmi from the tv runs into it. We had a house fire back in April of last year that we lost the entire half of the house with the bedrooms. They had to gut the entire house so I had the electrician run all the speaker wire in the walls and put jacks for me. He ran 14 gauge fire resistant wire. That was the biggest he had, hopefully it'll suffice. He also ran a coax run from the media closet to behind my recliner in the corner for the sub. I ordered some rca to f connectors. Anyway, here are some before shots of where it's all going, if I can figure out how to post a pic. I ordered a pair of the Pinpoint AM40 mounts for the rear speakers. Not sure how I'm going to place the center under the tv yet. I think I may fabricate a bracket out of steel and weld it.

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    TV: Panasonic TC-65PS64 65" Plasma
    Receiver: Denon AVR-X4000
    Blue-Ray: XBOX One
    CD Player: Onkyo C-7030
    Fronts: Polk Rti a5
    Center: Polk Csi a6
    Rears: Polk Rti a3
    Sub: Polk DSW PRO660wi
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  • jasonb01
    jasonb01 Posts: 43
    edited February 2014
    I also had the electrician run 2 pairs of wire to the front channels so I could bi-wire if need be.
    TV: Panasonic TC-65PS64 65" Plasma
    Receiver: Denon AVR-X4000
    Blue-Ray: XBOX One
    CD Player: Onkyo C-7030
    Fronts: Polk Rti a5
    Center: Polk Csi a6
    Rears: Polk Rti a3
    Sub: Polk DSW PRO660wi
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  • jasonb01
    jasonb01 Posts: 43
    edited February 2014
    I almost forgot, at the request of my wife, I ordered the cd player that is linked below. I've always used my dvd player or xbox to play cd's which annoyed her because of the menus. I saw this one got good reviews for the money and seemed much simpler to operate. I didn't want to get into big money for a cd player. I'll be using my xbox one for now to play my blue rays.

    http://www.crutchfield.com/p_580C7030/Onkyo-C-7030.html
    TV: Panasonic TC-65PS64 65" Plasma
    Receiver: Denon AVR-X4000
    Blue-Ray: XBOX One
    CD Player: Onkyo C-7030
    Fronts: Polk Rti a5
    Center: Polk Csi a6
    Rears: Polk Rti a3
    Sub: Polk DSW PRO660wi
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited February 2014
    The center can be mounted via a pair of "L" brackets - you should be able to find such a 'kit' someplace on line.

    B-Tech (now Pinpoint, I think) had a center channel mount kit... BT-15

    [edit: checked on-line, Pinpoint's AM-15 is the exact same unit I used which was the BT-15]

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • rpf65
    rpf65 Posts: 2,127
    edited February 2014
    Just a though.

    When all is said and done, I will also be running the A3's as rears. Like you I also strongly considered using the AM40's to mount them. My situation being a little different, like patching holes and painting after running wire, I had a lot of time to research various products for mounting these rather large heavy speakers.

    I actually found something I like better than the AM40's. Not really a speaker mount, but a component mount. Peerless ESHV20, can be found at stands and mounts for $39 each. Kind of like the idea of a glass shelf rather than an industrial type speaker mount. Of course I don't need to tilt the speakers in my application, but just thought I would throw this out there.
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  • badchad
    badchad Posts: 348
    edited February 2014
    For what its worth, I usually plug the omnimount 20.0 W's. They've worked great for my FXiA6's.
    Polk Fronts: RTi A7's
    Polk Center: CSi A6
    Polk Surrounds: FXi A6's
    Polk Rear Surround: RTi4
    Sub: HSU VTF-3 (MK1)
    AVR: Yamaha RX-A2010
    B&K Reference 200.7
    TV: Sharp LC-70LE847U
    Oppo BDP-103
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  • rgb24
    rgb24 Posts: 4
    edited February 2014
    I just ordered one of these for my A6 , I am going to put it above my TV. http://www.amazon.com/Peerless-Adjustable-Component-Shelf-AV/dp/B00155PSXS/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1392766180&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=center+channel+mou+nt
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  • jeto
    jeto Posts: 17
    edited February 2014
    jasonb01 wrote: »
    I almost forgot, at the request of my wife, I ordered the cd player that is linked below. I've always used my dvd player or xbox to play cd's which annoyed her because of the menus. I saw this one got good reviews for the money and seemed much simpler to operate. I didn't want to get into big money for a cd player. I'll be using my xbox one for now to play my blue rays.

    http://www.crutchfield.com/p_580C7030/Onkyo-C-7030.html

    I always preferred the NAD C 516BEE or if you have the cash the NAD C 546BEE. Just my 2 cents
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  • jasonb01
    jasonb01 Posts: 43
    edited February 2014
    That's exactly what I need, rgb! I just ordered one. Thanks!
    TV: Panasonic TC-65PS64 65" Plasma
    Receiver: Denon AVR-X4000
    Blue-Ray: XBOX One
    CD Player: Onkyo C-7030
    Fronts: Polk Rti a5
    Center: Polk Csi a6
    Rears: Polk Rti a3
    Sub: Polk DSW PRO660wi
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  • HDTVAV
    HDTVAV Posts: 80
    edited February 2014
    The RTi A series is "bright"...?
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  • HDTVAV
    HDTVAV Posts: 80
    edited February 2014
    Above your TV?
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  • jasonb01
    jasonb01 Posts: 43
    edited February 2014
    Below
    TV: Panasonic TC-65PS64 65" Plasma
    Receiver: Denon AVR-X4000
    Blue-Ray: XBOX One
    CD Player: Onkyo C-7030
    Fronts: Polk Rti a5
    Center: Polk Csi a6
    Rears: Polk Rti a3
    Sub: Polk DSW PRO660wi
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  • jasonb01
    jasonb01 Posts: 43
    edited February 2014
    Ugh, everything is being delivered tomorrow except for the 2 a5's. Crutchfield shipped them via some sort of air carrier and the tracking is showing them getting to me by Wednesday and I have to be home to arrange delivery. Already got all the mounts and the Onkyo CD player today. Was hoping to get it all set up this weekend. Oh well, I saved almost $400 in tax, so I guess another week won't kill anyone.
    TV: Panasonic TC-65PS64 65" Plasma
    Receiver: Denon AVR-X4000
    Blue-Ray: XBOX One
    CD Player: Onkyo C-7030
    Fronts: Polk Rti a5
    Center: Polk Csi a6
    Rears: Polk Rti a3
    Sub: Polk DSW PRO660wi
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  • jeremymarcinko
    jeremymarcinko Posts: 3,785
    edited February 2014
    Longest days ever. Waiting on new gear.
    Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
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  • jasonb01
    jasonb01 Posts: 43
    edited February 2014
    Oh, I'm driving my wife crazy, LOL
    TV: Panasonic TC-65PS64 65" Plasma
    Receiver: Denon AVR-X4000
    Blue-Ray: XBOX One
    CD Player: Onkyo C-7030
    Fronts: Polk Rti a5
    Center: Polk Csi a6
    Rears: Polk Rti a3
    Sub: Polk DSW PRO660wi
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  • rgb24
    rgb24 Posts: 4
    edited February 2014
    jasonb01 wrote: »
    Oh, I'm driving my wife crazy, LOL

    They shipped mine on ups freight. Check your tracking number and you might be able to go to ups and pick them up earlier if you live close by. That is what I did and got mine 3 days before they were going to deliver them.
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  • Snowmanjib
    Snowmanjib Posts: 5
    edited May 2014
    Jason, how did everything turn out? I just read through this thread and wish I had a little earlier. My set up is exactly the same as yours, except I have a different center.

    AVR: Denon X4000
    Fronts: Cherry RTiA5's
    Center: TL3
    Sub: (2) DSW 660's
    Surround R/L: TL3's
    Surround Rears: TL3's

    I love everything about mine, but think I need to up my center speaker. How do you like the CSiA6?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    edited May 2014
    Get the CSiA6, you'll love it.
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  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited May 2014
    +1, i've got the Csi5 and it's great. The center is very important for HT so i'd always go with the biggest and baddest one you can find!
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  • Snowmanjib
    Snowmanjib Posts: 5
    edited May 2014
    yea i find myself having to turn up the volume during movies because I can't seem to hear the vocals or people talking over other environment sounds sometime. I'm assuming a better center will help hit those high's, and really let me hear people talking without being drowned out by other sounds?
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  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,990
    edited May 2014
    Snowman!: you will like the coherency improvement that the 'A6 will bring to your system. Two more pluses: identical tweeters &
    6 1/2" mids across the front

    You may be experiencing (some) phase cancelation w/your current LCR requiring higher volume likely due to Polk didn't intend for thatcenter to work w/those LR.

    Enjoy
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
    8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
    *soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
    Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited May 2014
    Well Jason? How has it been, we need a new update WITH pictures!!!
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  • jasonb01
    jasonb01 Posts: 43
    edited May 2014
    You must've missed my post I made when everything arrived. Pics are in it.....Here it is... http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?158684-My-new-system-has-arrived!!-%28Pics%29

    I love the A6 center. I did have to go in and manually put it a little louder than what audessy had it at, but it's all good now. Did you try to turn just the center up some? Since taking the pics in the thread, I have moved my towers as far left and right as they could go, pulled them off the wall a bit and turned them in some. All at the advice of this forum. Sounds better that way. The only thing I can see in my future is adding an amp and another sub for the other side of my couch. I don't think I could've done much better in my budget and am very pleased.

    I badly want to do the piano gloss technique for the polk cherry that was posted on this site a while back, just haven't built up the nerve yet. The speakers are still too new. LOL
    TV: Panasonic TC-65PS64 65" Plasma
    Receiver: Denon AVR-X4000
    Blue-Ray: XBOX One
    CD Player: Onkyo C-7030
    Fronts: Polk Rti a5
    Center: Polk Csi a6
    Rears: Polk Rti a3
    Sub: Polk DSW PRO660wi
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  • jasonb01
    jasonb01 Posts: 43
    edited May 2014
    Snowman, I just noticed you have 2 of the 660's? How do you like them? The one I have is unreal, I could only imagine 2!
    TV: Panasonic TC-65PS64 65" Plasma
    Receiver: Denon AVR-X4000
    Blue-Ray: XBOX One
    CD Player: Onkyo C-7030
    Fronts: Polk Rti a5
    Center: Polk Csi a6
    Rears: Polk Rti a3
    Sub: Polk DSW PRO660wi
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  • Snowmanjib
    Snowmanjib Posts: 5
    edited May 2014
    If your a music lover like I am, then the two subs are a must. It's awesome. Here some photos: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8jcdqliznrd1ufv/AAA4WOR09MlXSW5VztAQswIJa
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