expensive speaker jumpers

marvda1
marvda1 Posts: 4,904
edited November 2013 in Speakers
when i saw this i could not believe it. why would you pay this insane amount for jumpers. for this price you could get super speaker cables.
http://app.audiogon.com/listings/speaker-jorma-design-prime-speaker-jumper-lead-set-2013-11-29-cables-australia
Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
Puritan PSM156
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited November 2013
    The suitcase cost more than the jumpers...
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited November 2013
    The suitcase says 'Made in Sweden'. Isn't that the home of Coconut Audio?
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  • Phasewolf
    Phasewolf Posts: 514
    edited November 2013
    Yea that is just a bit over the top.
    Absolute corruption empowers absolutely.

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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited November 2013
    Uh...those are the good ones with the clear plastic thumbscrews. He should store them crossed at 90 degrees to prevent the co-valent convolution capacitance reduction.
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  • Monster Jam
    Monster Jam Posts: 919
    edited November 2013
    Those jumpers provide a significant improvement over stock jumpers. You might say the difference is like "night and day".
    Do you hear that buzzing noise? :confused:
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited November 2013
    Those are $320 worth of connectors alone.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,519
    edited November 2013
    I think you'd be better off to buy the bi-wire speaker cables for $12,500.

    http://app.audiogon.com/listings/speaker-jorma-design-prime-biwire-speaker-cables-2m-pair-2013-11-19-cables-australia
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,020
    edited November 2013
    Face wrote: »
    Those are $320 worth of connectors alone.

    Maybe so....but they ain't worth spit without some white woody gunk from Coconut oil slobbered all over 'em. LOL
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  • Obsession18
    Obsession18 Posts: 191
    edited November 2013
    What is really sad is someone will pay it. Some of the stuff in this hobby is pure snake oil.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,820
    edited November 2013
    DSkip wrote: »
    I don't think that applies here. Overpriced? Maybe. Will it make a difference if you're using plates? Don't see how it wouldn't.

    Bingo!
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,904
    edited November 2013
    don't get me wrong, jumpers do make a difference from the cheap metal bars included with speakers, i just don't think jumpers priced this high will make that amount of difference to justify the price.
    Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
    Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
    Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
    Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
    Puritan PSM156
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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited November 2013
    marvda1 wrote: »
    don't get me wrong, jumpers do make a difference from the cheap metal bars included with speakers, i just don't think jumpers priced this high will make that amount of difference to justify the price.

    Checkmate!
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,904
    edited November 2013
    poker night, send me the address again, age you know. might see if my son wants come.
    Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
    Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
    Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
    Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
    Puritan PSM156
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,259
    edited November 2013
    The cost is literally chump change for some in this hobby, on par with the rest of their system for others and 3X the amount of what some others have in their entire system. For those of us who want to keep their system to the utmost of playback capabilities, if one can afford it, the cost is negligible because the end result as to what hits our ears is the only thing that matters.

    With that said, they may not be worth the cost even to those who can afford these because they may not react the way the user intended. You know, synergy and all. This may cause said user to go looking for ones that cost even more to find that audio nirvana. For some gear listeners with unlimited wallets, these may be considered a "trial" or "experiment" just to see if something they read somewhere works in their system or not.

    Point is, they may be considered expensive to some. That's not unreasonable. They aren't snake oil though, just because they come with a higher price tag than some are used too.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
    edited November 2013
    If one thinks they cost too much, one doesn't have to purchase them.
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    If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited November 2013
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Point is, they may be considered expensive to some. That's not unreasonable. They aren't snake oil though, just because they come with a higher price tag than some are used too.

    Tom
    To some, you mean to most!

    Come on Tom, how could any sane person justify those. At most, that's only $400 worth of material(without the case)...which is still pretty ridiculous if you think about it. This is coming from someone who also uses the same brand connectors(WBT).
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,259
    edited November 2013
    Face wrote:
    To some, you mean to most!

    To most who are not in our hobby? Absolutely. To those who only have that much invested in their entire system system? Yes. To those who are die hard audiophiles with the best of systems trying to reach the last 3% of their system? No, I said some and I meant some. Had you told me decades ago that I would one day have a set of IC's that cost as much as they did, I would have laughed and laughed real hard. Thing is, it was those IC's that made my system and since then I have more of them because I know what they do for the end result. You know full well that their are many in this hobby [and some within this forum] that 1.5K, while still a sizeable chunk of change, is really nothing compared to what they have spent over the years as a result of this hobby.

    Mr. DSkip has a point. Most here are not the target customer. For the market they are targeting, 1.5K for something that is not a component [although to some in that market, they are considered just that] may just make or break a system. They wouldn't bother to make it unless there was a market for it. If I had the money right now, I would be in the market for this. Well, that is until I could afford a pair of Transparent OPUS MM2 Speaker Cables.

    When you look up the price of those, how could any sane person justify them? Some have and some will.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,493
    edited November 2013
    WOW!!! The overall presentation is most excellent!!! I would pay that and double......then throw the jumpers away and keep the case....then pretend I'm James Bond :mrgreen:
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