Pio SC-05 MCACC Speaker Channel Level
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I don't have any experience with Polk subs either, but it sounds like the replacement amp isn't right. (obviously with the size issue and I have to wonder why it is causing you to get a headache). I know companies get a bad runs of amps, it happened to Chad over at Epik ,I'm sure it's happened to other companies. When I was on my quest for good quality bass, I had to come to the conclusion I was going to have to drop a lot more coin to get there.
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Hello comrades. Suffering from the boomy blues? Got an old subwoofer that doesn't quite fit the bill anymore? Have a "sub"par thump maker not doing you any good? See what I did there? Got an underpowered subwoofer taking up space in storage. No problem. Put that sucker in the corner. Its the "vitamin B12 shot" spot of the room.
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Nice! I know all about penetration. Those are the spikes, they're adjustable hard plastic. You're not going to believe what I did... last night I turned off the AC so the turbo charged vents wouldn't interfere with the MCACC calibration. Umm...forgot to turn it back on. HOT IN HERE.
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I've always wondered why the audio/video field seems to be a man's hobby. I figured it out today. Most women wouldn't be able to move the front speakers. I'm a dude, and I think I ruptured my spleen. And bonus...I was getting around to putting baseboards in that room soon, so I'm going to have to move everything all over again.
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It was my chair! Last night I turned it over on it's side and drug it over to the door near the bed and placed the tripod where the chair sits. Tonight I pulled the chair forward 6 inches and put the tripod between the chair and bed. I just didn't spread out the legs of the tripod so it would fit. The chair was in the upright position so that put the mic in the normal listening position. Had to raise it an extra three inches. I also put a blanket over the leather chair this time. And now my center channel EQ settings are back to normal. I guess it had something to do with the chair being moved...I guess. I don't know. Thoughts??? I need to clean out one of my closets so I can put some of the stuff away.
Photo was taken behind the chair.
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I was up until almost 2am listening to music. I know it does more than just recalibrate the EQ, but the EQ settings are so different than before on the left and right channels. It tamed the tweeters slightly and increased the bass and I had been complaining how the fronts were so bright and lacked bass. Music sounds so much better and you would swear that music was coming out of the front channel, when it's not. I even had to get up and check. I was able to catch about 20 minutes of U-571 today on TV. Nice. I couldn't have picked a better movie to test things out. I'm still learning your Klingon Audiophile language, but it went from sounding flat to sounding "vibrant". Do you use that word?
I set all the speakers to small. I haven't changed anything else. The crossover is set to 80. I'm not saying that my front speakers are the be all and end all for music playing, but it's definitely an improvement. Everyone's input and help in this thread is greatly appreciated. Much thanks.
Of course, I have to take part of the credit. You see, those wooden masks create a positive reflective surface resulting in a improved musical wave length that creates an overall better soundstage. What you all are able to do with your $1000+ cables, I do with $40 masks. I call that a "win"!
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Those masks probably do act a bit as acoustic diffusers! :cheesygrin:
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Glad to help. I should write a Home Theater Manual.It was my chair! Last night I turned it over on it's side and drug it over to the door near the bed and placed the tripod where the chair sits. Tonight I pulled the chair forward 6 inches and put the tripod between the chair and bed. I just didn't spread out the legs of the tripod so it would fit. The chair was in the upright position so that put the mic in the normal listening position. Had to raise it an extra three inches. I also put a blanket over the leather chair this time. And now my center channel EQ settings are back to normal. I guess it had something to do with the chair being moved...I guess. I don't know. Thoughts??? I need to clean out one of my closets so I can put some of the stuff away.
Photo was taken behind the chair.
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Glad to help. I should write a Home Theater Manual.
Does the size of the room determine the height you place the surrounds, or do you always place the surround tweeters 72" from the floor when possible?
I have the front of the left and right speakers pulled out further from the back wall than the front of the center channel. Do you usually place them all in a straight line or do you prefer to pull the fronts further out to where L, R, & C creates a sort of semicircle around the listener?
When you set up home theaters, do you usually use one or two subs? Or is it dependent on the room size?
My sub is actually pointing behind me. I don't have enough room to turn it enough to point to my chair. I have just enough room for the baseboards to fit. -
This rabbit's paws are going 100 mph.
It's all your fault! If you hadn't sold me your magic cables, then I wouldn't know how much one thing can change so much. I'm going to change the wall color and install different carpet and see what that does.
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Does the size of the room determine the height you place the surrounds, or do you always place the surround tweeters 72" from the floor when possible?
I have the front of the left and right speakers pulled out further from the back wall than the front of the center channel. Do you usually place them all in a straight line or do you prefer to pull the fronts further out to where L, R, & C creates a sort of semicircle around the listener?
When you set up home theaters, do you usually use one or two subs? Or is it dependent on the room size?
My sub is actually pointing behind me. I don't have enough room to turn it enough to point to my chair. I have just enough room for the baseboards to fit.
No matter the size of the theater room, I always try to get the Tweeters at 72 inches. This is something I came up with along with a fellow Partner that really worked well in all the different theater rooms we did. If you read the spec, it's 2 to 3 feet above the listener. If you measure someone seated in a typical listening or watching position, it usually measures about 36-40 inches. If you go 3 feet more your at 72 inches. I have done 76 and even 80 inches with excellent results. To the Tweeter is usually the mounting key hole on most on wall surround speakers and gives you a very easy and nice place to mount to.
The Center channel is the starting point for the front array. I usually create a circle between the front 3 to give you a open and accurate front end. You can however is space is limited go all straight, it work well for movies but not so much for a movie/music system. Again if you refer back to the standards which I follow closely and modify in the given room I'm working with, they usually give you the very best placement and measurement one can live by.
As far as subs I always spec 2. I don't like just one sub no matter how good that one sub is. There is always problem areas in the room with just one sub. 2 you can smooth out coverage. If there is only 1 listener, one sub can work just fine IF it's tuned to that seating position.Dan
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If your joking cool but these things actually change your experience.It's all your fault! If you hadn't sold me your magic cables, then I wouldn't know how much one thing can change so much. I'm going to change the wall color and install different carpet and see what that does.
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Wall color effects overall color balance. Even light reflections can wash out your picture IF you have bright colors in your room. White ceilings suck for movie rooms as well as light colored walls. The wall your display is one should be a darker color and a light sheen if any.Dan
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Have you ever recommended using two different brand or model subs that have a different individual sound, or do you always match them?
I've always wanted to have a home theater in a room with no windows and paint the rear wall black so the TV, stand, and speakers disappear. A buddy of mine took it a step further and painted all the walls and ceiling black and put down a large black rug in a small downstairs room. Even when you turned on the lights you couldn't see the buttons on the AVR or remote, and could barely find the seat, since there were no surfaces to reflect the light. I remember busting my shin up against the side of a chair trying to find a seat. It was overkill. It didn't stay that way long. -
No, I always match my subs. I never ran into a situation where I needed 2 different subs.Have you ever recommended using two different brand or model subs that have a different individual sound, or do you always match them?
I've always wanted to have a home theater in a room with no windows and paint the rear wall black so the TV, stand, and speakers disappear. A buddy of mine took it a step further and painted all the walls and ceiling black and put down a large black rug in a small downstairs room. Even when you turned on the lights you couldn't see the buttons on the AVR or remote, and could barely find the seat, since there were no surfaces to reflect the light. I remember busting my shin up against the side of a chair trying to find a seat. It was overkill. It didn't stay that way long.
I don't like a fully black room. It's not enjoyable to me anyway. I like the ceiling dark, the front wall dark and the side walls can be of a lighter color just not to light or reflective. When the lights are on, I like the room to still feel enjoyable. All black rooms can be uncomfortable.
Same goes for when a room is over treated, to dead and it's not an enjoyable experience. I like to calm down reflections and keep the rest of the room a bit on the live side. It makes for a more natural presentation of sound like in the really real world.Dan
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ATS Wedge Foam Acoustic Panels (Charcoal) - 24x24x2 (6PK)
This isn't my area of expertise. Six pack for $39.95 plus $9.86 shipping. Good deal?
I could put it on the wall behind my chair. And how do you hang this stuff?
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Me personally, I stay away from using the foam acoustic products. They do nothing for bass under 250 hz. and suck up the highs. Products like GIK, RealTrap ,ATS(the mineral wool panels)Acoustimac and others make various fiberglas and mineral wool panels. Or you can make your own if you'd like. It will__ make a difference in how your system sounds.ATS Wedge Foam Acoustic Panels (Charcoal) - 24x24x2 (6PK)
This isn't my area of expertise. Six pack for $39.95 plus $9.86 shipping. Good deal?
I could put it on the wall behind my chair. And how do you hang this stuff?
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I think I'm going to try and give Craigslist a chance to do me up right. That's difficult for me because I'm impatient. There are plenty of listings for foam, but none for fiberglass within a three hour drive. Covered fiberglass looks much better! So...fiberglass it is. My life was much simpler before I came here!!
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ATS the company is located in Southern IL and have very good prices on their panels. So much so that its close to what you would pay to make em yourself if you pick them up. Thats what I plan to do myself."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
