Two PAIRS of Carver Platinums in a Sunfire!

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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,504
    Three schematics in the manual I have....

    Date '86 schematic

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    Date '89 Platinum

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    Date '89 Silver

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  • nguyendot
    nguyendot Posts: 3,594
    I will try to read this and look at the crossovers. I feel someone tried to hot-rod these or had no idea what they're doing. The woofers seem to come off the same terminals as the input on the crossover which doesn't make sense. I have no idea how to read a schematic but I should be able to make due. I'll take pics.
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,647
    There's a lot of things about those speakers that doesn't make sense.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • xschop
    xschop Posts: 5,000
    The truth ranger rides again lol.
    On a serious note, it would be nice to see them resto/modded. I'll be watching this project and hope to see it brought to fruition.
    Don't take experimental gene therapies from known eugenicists.
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  • nguyendot
    nguyendot Posts: 3,594
    I'll gauge how much work itll take. If not I'm going to part them out or resell them. They're huge and I can't store them easily.
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,446
    Just FYI... my project died a while ago, as the cost of the parts far exceeded the value of just buying a pair that already worked.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • xschop
    xschop Posts: 5,000
    Are you referring to the Carvers or the Sunfire?
    Don't take experimental gene therapies from known eugenicists.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,446
    The sunfire is the car used to haul them. We still have it. B)
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • nguyendot
    nguyendot Posts: 3,594
    They for the most part work, i think the crossover needs rewired but who knows.
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,647
    So, the original Amazings with the two ribbons are 4 ohm and the later Platinum series with the 60" ribbons are 8 ohm. I therefore do not believe one can use a 60" ribbon in the original Amazings nor can one use the honeycomb woofers in the Plats.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • mikeyb128
    mikeyb128 Posts: 2,885
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    The sunfire is the car used to haul them. We still have it. B)

    From a sunfire to Demon..... sweeet upgrade :sunglasses:
    2 channel:
    Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
    Theater:
    Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables.

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  • nguyendot
    nguyendot Posts: 3,594
    F1nut wrote: »
    So, the original Amazings with the two ribbons are 4 ohm and the later Platinum series with the 60" ribbons are 8 ohm. I therefore do not believe one can use a 60" ribbon in the original Amazings nor can one use the honeycomb woofers in the Plats.

    Someone either bought two different ones or they hacked these up. My best bet might be to part them out then. The 60" tweeter sounds awesome. The 30" ones sound terrible but I'm thinking someone literally just ran random wires to them.
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,446
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    The sunfire is the car used to haul them. We still have it. B)

    From a sunfire to Demon..... sweeet upgrade :sunglasses:

    I drive a Jaguar XJ now. The Sunfire collects dust because my wife can't sell her first car.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • xschop
    xschop Posts: 5,000
    Watch those fuel lines on the Sunfire. That car can quickly earn it's name. I test-drove an XJ with a cammed LT1 back in the day. He could never get enough rear tire unless he tubbed it.
    Don't take experimental gene therapies from known eugenicists.
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  • ALL212
    ALL212 Posts: 1,577
    Tell me more of your ribbons. I’ve rebuilt silvers and know of two places that are refurbing ribbons. But I might be in the market for the 60.
    Aaron
    Enabler Extraordinaire
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
    I just can't figure out with a new baby how you have the time to consider a project that big.
    HT SYSTEM-
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    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,556
    tonyb wrote: »
    I just can't figure out with a new baby how you have the time to consider a project that big.

    Tony Johns project was several years ago. This was resurrected nguyendot.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,446
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    I just can't figure out with a new baby how you have the time to consider a project that big.

    Tony Johns project was several years ago. This was resurrected nguyendot.

    Take it easy on Tony... he's a Bears/Cubs fan....
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • nguyendot
    nguyendot Posts: 3,594
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    I just can't figure out with a new baby how you have the time to consider a project that big.

    Tony Johns project was several years ago. This was resurrected nguyendot.

    I have the new baby. Like literally a week old. Refurbing some KP-201 horns too (industrial Heresy IIs).

    And picked up a few new receivers from Magnolia in the past 2 weeks.
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,556
    nguyendot wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    I just can't figure out with a new baby how you have the time to consider a project that big.

    Tony Johns project was several years ago. This was resurrected nguyendot.

    I have the new baby. Like literally a week old. Refurbing some KP-201 horns too (industrial Heresy IIs).

    And picked up a few new receivers from Magnolia in the past 2 weeks.

    My bad I'm sorry Tony call off waste management.....palease B)

    Congrats on the new rugrat o:)<3
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