SDA purchase and in need of rebuild

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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited June 2013
    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=091-120
    http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023902&p_id=2819&seq=1&format=2


    warren wrote: »
    Thanks, I got the skinny about the RCA cable, from Ken while he was at Polk. If like to buy one, but how?
    POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
    POLK CSI-A6 POLK MONITOR 70'S ONKYO TX NR-808 SONY CDP-333ES
    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
    POLK SDA 1C BOUGHT USED 2011,Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-194
    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1
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  • warren
    warren Posts: 756
    edited June 2013
    PolkieMan wrote: »
    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=091-120
    http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023902&p_id=2819&seq=1&format=2
    thank you so much for getting me to think, I'm 74 & 3/4...
    Some final words,
    "If you keep banging your head against the wall,
    you're going to have headaches."
    Warren
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  • hertz9753
    hertz9753 Posts: 310
    edited June 2013
    warren wrote: »
    thank you so much for getting me to think, I'm 74 & 3/4...

    1939? :cool:
    AVR-Onkyo TX-NR808
    Front amp-Adcom GFA 555>Polk Audio LSi9's(Vr3 Castle Mods)
    Center amp-Adcom GFA 5400>Polk Audio LSi9 bi-wired(Vr3 Castle Mod)
    Surrounds-Polk Audio F/X500's<Onkyo TX-NR808
    Sub-Velodyne SPL-1000R
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  • custopper30
    custopper30 Posts: 252
    edited June 2013
    Man I feel young... 1993
    Receiver: Denon 1912
    Speakers:
    Fronts: Polk Audio Monitor 70s (x2)
    Rears: Polk Audio Monitor 50 (x2)
    Center: Polk Audio Monitor 70
    KLH Sub GFX-550
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  • warren
    warren Posts: 756
    edited June 2013
    Nov.26, 1938 AD
    Some final words,
    "If you keep banging your head against the wall,
    you're going to have headaches."
    Warren
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  • hertz9753
    hertz9753 Posts: 310
    edited June 2013
    warren wrote: »
    Nov.26, 1938 AD

    I think this needs an off topic thread. :wink:
    AVR-Onkyo TX-NR808
    Front amp-Adcom GFA 555>Polk Audio LSi9's(Vr3 Castle Mods)
    Center amp-Adcom GFA 5400>Polk Audio LSi9 bi-wired(Vr3 Castle Mod)
    Surrounds-Polk Audio F/X500's<Onkyo TX-NR808
    Sub-Velodyne SPL-1000R
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  • hertz9753
    hertz9753 Posts: 310
    edited June 2013
    custopper30 wrote: »
    Man I feel young... 1993

    Sorry to jack your thread. http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?149762-What-year-were-you-born

    You are doing great. I thought you would be older. :smile:
    AVR-Onkyo TX-NR808
    Front amp-Adcom GFA 555>Polk Audio LSi9's(Vr3 Castle Mods)
    Center amp-Adcom GFA 5400>Polk Audio LSi9 bi-wired(Vr3 Castle Mod)
    Surrounds-Polk Audio F/X500's<Onkyo TX-NR808
    Sub-Velodyne SPL-1000R
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited June 2013
    Your welcome warren
    I'm just looking at things on the cheap end he said college was eating up his money.
    Besides I am cheap :razz:
    But I still thought someone said Blade/Blade?
    warren wrote: »
    thank you so much for getting me to think, I'm 74 & 3/4...
    POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
    POLK CSI-A6 POLK MONITOR 70'S ONKYO TX NR-808 SONY CDP-333ES
    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
    POLK SDA 1C BOUGHT USED 2011,Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-194
    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1
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  • custopper30
    custopper30 Posts: 252
    edited June 2013
    anyways.. So would everyone say use bondo to repair the sides/groves? Is that the best thing to use?
    Receiver: Denon 1912
    Speakers:
    Fronts: Polk Audio Monitor 70s (x2)
    Rears: Polk Audio Monitor 50 (x2)
    Center: Polk Audio Monitor 70
    KLH Sub GFX-550
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited June 2013
    custopper30 wrote: »
    anyways.. So would everyone say use bondo to repair the sides/groves? Is that the best thing to use?

    Yup.

    IMG_4658.jpg
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited June 2013
    Of course, you need to remove the vinyl laminate first. Get a heat gun and a paint scraper, work carefully so you don't damage the cabinets.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • custopper30
    custopper30 Posts: 252
    edited June 2013
    why remove the vinyl? I was just going to rough it up and build over it and then sand it down till it is back to perfection. Then I was going to lay wood veneer over it? Wouldn't that be better?
    Receiver: Denon 1912
    Speakers:
    Fronts: Polk Audio Monitor 70s (x2)
    Rears: Polk Audio Monitor 50 (x2)
    Center: Polk Audio Monitor 70
    KLH Sub GFX-550
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,957
    edited June 2013
    custopper30 wrote: »
    why remove the vinyl? I was just going to rough it up and build over it and then sand it down till it is back to perfection. Then I was going to lay wood veneer over it? Wouldn't that be better?

    When you build a house you need a solid foundation right? Well when you build on top of the old vinyl you won't have a solid foundation. The old needs to be removed you'll thank us later.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited June 2013
    Removing the vinyl is very easy with a heat gun. Following on pitdogg2's comments, when you have paint peeling off a house, you don't just paint over it, you power wash, sand, scrape, etc. to get as much off as possible. This is no different. Get that vinyl 100% off before you do any refinishing work.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • TennMan
    TennMan Posts: 1,267
    edited June 2013
    If you are going to use real wood veneer, what do you about the small ledge that protrudes out below the grills? It has rounded ends that look like they would be hard to get wood veneer to conform to them.
    • SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat
    • Crossover upgrades by westmassguy
    • Marantz 1504 AVR (front speaker pre-outs to Adcom 555)
    • Adcom GFA-555 amp · Upgrades & speaker protection added by OldmanSRS
    • Pioneer DV-610AV DVD/CD player
    • SDA CRS+ · Hidden away in the closet
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,692
    edited June 2013
    custopper30 wrote: »
    why remove the vinyl? I was just going to rough it up and build over it and then sand it down till it is back to perfection. Then I was going to lay wood veneer over it? Wouldn't that be better?

    As the others have indicated, that simply will not work, period.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited June 2013
    TennMan wrote: »
    If you are going to use real wood veneer, what do you about the small ledge that protrudes out below the grills? It has rounded ends that look like they would be hard to get wood veneer to conform to them.

    Can't say for certain because I don't have these speakers, but if they're anything like my CRS+ project, that bottom trim under the grill is a piece of wood attached with glue/dowels. When my brother-in-law did the woodwork, he fabricated a new trim piece out of solid maple to match the veneer, and rounded it with a router.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • custopper30
    custopper30 Posts: 252
    edited June 2013
    I was just going to bondo it all up and make it corner edges instead of the rounded edges. That will look really nice and be easier, I think :rolleyes:

    Comments? I will start removing the vinyl tonight possibly.
    Receiver: Denon 1912
    Speakers:
    Fronts: Polk Audio Monitor 70s (x2)
    Rears: Polk Audio Monitor 50 (x2)
    Center: Polk Audio Monitor 70
    KLH Sub GFX-550
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited June 2013
    Mmmm, no. You want those edges round to match the contour of the grills.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • TennMan
    TennMan Posts: 1,267
    edited June 2013
    nspindel wrote: »
    Can't say for certain because I don't have these speakers, but if they're anything like my CRS+ project, that bottom trim under the grill is a piece of wood attached with glue/dowels. When my brother-in-law did the woodwork, he fabricated a new trim piece out of solid maple to match the veneer, and rounded it with a router.
    Thanks for the info. The CRS+ are the ones I was asking about. I have a pair of them. If I keep them I might want to add real wood veneer some day and was wondering about what needed to be done at the bottom of the grills..
    • SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat
    • Crossover upgrades by westmassguy
    • Marantz 1504 AVR (front speaker pre-outs to Adcom 555)
    • Adcom GFA-555 amp · Upgrades & speaker protection added by OldmanSRS
    • Pioneer DV-610AV DVD/CD player
    • SDA CRS+ · Hidden away in the closet
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited June 2013
    Be very careful removing the original piece, you don't want to split the pressboard cabinets by causing too much movement in the wooden dowels. My brother in law used a biscuit joiner to attach the maple trim pieces.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • custopper30
    custopper30 Posts: 252
    edited June 2013
    Is there any special things I need to do when removing the vinyl?

    All I know is that I just heat it up with the heat gun and then slip the putty knife and slowly start heating and removing the vinyl??
    Receiver: Denon 1912
    Speakers:
    Fronts: Polk Audio Monitor 70s (x2)
    Rears: Polk Audio Monitor 50 (x2)
    Center: Polk Audio Monitor 70
    KLH Sub GFX-550
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited June 2013
    Just work carefully and don't screw up :lol:
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • custopper30
    custopper30 Posts: 252
    edited June 2013
    So far it is going well. Almost done with the first speakers and it is the first time for me looking at the bottom of the speakers and man oh man, are they super chipped up and rough......
    Receiver: Denon 1912
    Speakers:
    Fronts: Polk Audio Monitor 70s (x2)
    Rears: Polk Audio Monitor 50 (x2)
    Center: Polk Audio Monitor 70
    KLH Sub GFX-550
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited June 2013
    Are you going to show them naked :razz:
    You removed the drivers and x-overs before you started.:wink:
    POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
    POLK CSI-A6 POLK MONITOR 70'S ONKYO TX NR-808 SONY CDP-333ES
    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
    POLK SDA 1C BOUGHT USED 2011,Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-194
    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited June 2013
    PolkieMan wrote: »
    Are you going to show them naked :razz:
    You removed the drivers and x-overs before you started.:wink:

    Yes. Pics or it never happened. Great advice on stripping the speaker down before doing this work, I should have thought to tell you that. Heat guns and tweeters don't mix well!
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • custopper30
    custopper30 Posts: 252
    edited June 2013
    well I stripped them down with the speakers and everything still in but I dont think I overheated the tweeters or the drivers as the gun was never pointed at them at all. I will post pictures here soon. I don't have any drivers or those new upgraded tweeters. I just ahve all the original parts. What would I need to do to upgrade the tweeters? I need some help on what to do now? do I need to replace all the speakers or just the one that scratches when you manually push it in?
    Receiver: Denon 1912
    Speakers:
    Fronts: Polk Audio Monitor 70s (x2)
    Rears: Polk Audio Monitor 50 (x2)
    Center: Polk Audio Monitor 70
    KLH Sub GFX-550
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited June 2013
    The way they have been pressed in, I would do them all.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited June 2013
    I know you said you are strapped for cash.
    Of course I know people that make 30k a year and whine so :razz:
    So the first thing would be only the driver(s) that are defective
    and if you will look there is information on fixing that one, I posted a couple links.
    custopper30 wrote: »
    well I stripped them down with the speakers and everything still in but I dont think I overheated the tweeters or the drivers as the gun was never pointed at them at all. I will post pictures here soon. I don't have any drivers or those new upgraded tweeters. I just ahve all the original parts. What would I need to do to upgrade the tweeters? I need some help on what to do now? do I need to replace all the speakers or just the one that scratches when you manually push it in?
    POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
    POLK CSI-A6 POLK MONITOR 70'S ONKYO TX NR-808 SONY CDP-333ES
    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
    POLK SDA 1C BOUGHT USED 2011,Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-194
    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1
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  • custopper30
    custopper30 Posts: 252
    edited June 2013
    Pictures coming tonight before I start bondoing
    Receiver: Denon 1912
    Speakers:
    Fronts: Polk Audio Monitor 70s (x2)
    Rears: Polk Audio Monitor 50 (x2)
    Center: Polk Audio Monitor 70
    KLH Sub GFX-550
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