New Xbox Anyone?

bored184

I missed most of the live coverage while at work, did I miss much? From what little I looked up it sounds like they did not release the specs just the wow factors.

TurboGTU

bored184 wrote: »

I missed most of the live coverage while at work, did I miss much? From what little I looked up it sounds like they did not release the specs just the wow factors.

This link was posted earlier in this thread: http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-xbox-360-ps4-comparison/

Summary: 8 core cpu, 8gb ram, 500gb hdd (lame), bluray, usb 3.0, hdmi in/out

Sherardp

polkfarmboy wrote: »

This is exactly what I was thinking, we are now forced to buy a kinect. The good thing about that is we may be able to interact with a fps, imagine taking your hand of the controller to throw a secondary grenade that is not selected in the main inventory

Game interaction would be really cool, but they would have to successfully implement it. Nevertheless, I do like the way MS is going with the One.

bored184

polkfarmboy wrote: »

This is exactly what I was thinking, we are now forced to buy a kinect. The good thing about that is we may be able to interact with a fps, imagine taking your hand of the controller to throw a secondary grenade that is not selected in the main inventory

I dont mind the Kinect or being forced to buy it with the Xbox. Some of the features are pretty cool! I have a problem in which they force me to use it in games I dont want it in. The Wii did this with the Zelda, there was no controller option. I may be a little old fashion but there are some games I just want a good ol' controller.

TurboGTU wrote: »

This link was posted earlier in this thread: http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-xbox-360-ps4-comparison/

Summary: 8 core cpu, 8gb ram, 500gb hdd (lame), bluray, usb 3.0, hdmi in/out

Thanks, some how I missed that! That is wanted I wanted to know.

Any truth to it not being backwards compatible?

Sherardp

bored184 wrote: »

I dont mind the Kinect or being forced to buy it with the Xbox. Some of the features are pretty cool! I have a problem in which they force me to use it in games I dont want it in. The Wii did this with the Zelda, there was no controller option.
Thanks, some how I missed that! That is wanted I wanted to know.

Any truth to it not being backwards compatible?

Ps4 and XBO will not have backward compatibility as of now. It could change later on but I doubt it.

polkfarmboy

Sherardp wrote: »

Ps4 and XBO will not have backward compatibility as of now. It could change later on but I doubt it.

Thats good news for those of us with a library of un-played titles. I have loads that I just cannot find the time to get into

polkfarmboy

TurboGTU wrote: »

usb 3.0, hdmi in/out

Whats the benefit of usb 3.0in a console and whats the point of the hdmi in?

mrbiron

Just finished the reveal and have to say, i'm actually impressed. Now as long as Kinect isn't forced fed to us, i'll be all set!

BlueFox

polkfarmboy wrote: »

Whats the benefit of usb 3.0in a console and whats the point of the hdmi in?

For future brain implants to allow direct connection to the Xbox.

Polkie2009

BlueFox wrote: »

For future brain implants to allow direct connection to the Xbox.

LOL, good one BF! I'm guessing the price is going to be $399.00 . Would be nice if it's backward compatible. So many XBOX users have certain games they love to play every so often. Looking forward to E3 for more demos of the units.

AsSiMiLaTeD

I'll stick with my gaming PC

TurboGTU

polkfarmboy wrote: »

Whats the benefit of usb 3.0in a console and whats the point of the hdmi in?

hdmi in is to link up to your cable box so it can overlay on top of it. usb 3, not totally sure, but maybe for expandable storage since it only has a 500gb hdd. Hopefully they'll get away from the proprietary bs with their hard drives.

Polkie2009

They are coming with the 500gb hdd so you can buy the bigger, upgraded one later for who knows, maybe another $100.00, lol.

Sherardp

USB 3 would offer fast transfers when using external storage or Kinect should they decide to use USB for the connection interface. I like the idea of a wireless Kinect, but I'm not sure if they covered that or not.

HDMI in is for the input when using cable input into the box. Sony definitely has some work to do as this could really be an one in all solution if it works as they say it will. If they offer Netflix, Amazon Video, and Hulu Plus apps I'd be all set since there's not much to offer cable wise in Japan.

mantis

Can't wait to get my hands on one.

kuntasensei

The internal hard drive is not modular, so there won't be an upgrade option. It's a custom designed hard drive both so that it fits in with their cooling scheme and because of the custom buffering they're doing for real-time recording of game data (the game DVR feature they showed) and other system features. However, they have already confirmed that if you plug up an external hard drive to the USB 3.0 ports, the system can fully use it like the internal drive.

The bigger question here is the used games issue. I love everything they showed and definitely want one... but if they are placing DRM on used games and Sony isn't, Sony wins this generation. You can't dismiss what the used game market brings to the table, and if Microsoft does that, it's going to be ugly. I'm hoping that Major Nelson addresses this today in his Yahoo chat.

Jhayman

Exactly the used game market is Huge..
If they do not allow it it's going to be a huge issue for some customers and may drive those pissed customers to try PS4..

AsSiMiLaTeD

Hasn't Microsoft already said they're not going to jack around with used games and that people will still be able to buy and sell them?

AsSiMiLaTeD

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-used-games/

Sherardp

AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-used-games/

Very interesting read. I think Sony will follow this, and I think both are going to tack on some kind of fee. I think they should leave alone, but just associate each game with an ID number. Once the person sells the title unregister it from the Xbox One. If its that serious they could do something similar to what Apple does with ITunes and IPods.

custopper30

I have heard the pricing will be around 500-600 from various sources.. gonna break the bank

nme medic

Well this sucks. Regarding the live TV feature "The service will not be supported out of the box; Xbox One Live TV will require a separate supported receiver device with HDMI output to work."

According to IGN.
http://m.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/xbox-one-live-tv-only-available-in-the-us-at-launch

Dabutcher

Nothing against Xbox. I have never played it or needed to because of Playstation loyalty and reliability. same reason I only drive Toyotas- Reliability. I think PS4 video is coming out on June tenth to show console. I am going to b pissed if PS4 does not play used discs. Peace

kuntasensei

I'm not really sure why anyone is surprised by the used games thing. Publishers have been pushing things like one-time-use online passes for a while now in an effort to get some money from the used market. Who this really hurts most is Gamestop, since they will have to lower their used game prices to make the consumer WANT a used game now that they will have to pay to activate it. And from what developers have said, PS4 is likely going to have something like this in place as well. It's a necessity of the new consoles no longer playing the game directly from the disc or requiring the disc to be in the drive when you play.

Think about it this way... Right now, when a new game comes out, GameStop typically sells the used copy for a mere $5 lower than the new price but only gives people who sell them back the game about $30 in credit (less after the first few weeks of a game's release). That means they're making $25. So let's say that the developers now want $10 to activate a used copy of a game (which would be akin to what they're charging for online passes now). That means GameStop can no longer sell that used copy at $55, because it makes it more expensive than a new copy. So they will have to drop their used price down to $45 so that it is still an attractive buy for those trying to save money. The end result will be that GameStop will still make $15, but the developers will make $10 off that used copy as well. So IF (and it's a big IF) the activation of used games is kept to a reasonable price, it could work, with both sides being satisfied.

I'm not happy that used games are being handled this way, but it has been a long time coming... and with the future being in boxes that are more PC-like (like the rumored Steam box), PC-like digital rights management is a necessary evil. It sucks that I won't be able to just loan a friend my game disc anymore... but being able to just pull up a list of installed games in my living room without popping in a disc will be pretty cool. And if they come up with a REASONABLE way to trade games with this new digital paradigm, I see this being a gateway to the end of physical media (which you had to know was coming).

Polkie2009

The new units will probably not play any burned copies of games either. The industry is at the point now that burned copies of dvds,blu rays, etc won't play at all on the newer blu ray players. Gamestop has had a good run with the video games business, hope they can make it through this stage of the game. Yea, I was thinking a price tag of $499.00 on the systems and hoping for $399.00. The big guys(PlayStation and XBOX) make most of their money on the sale of games anyway.

ThirdWorldGuy

Dabutcher wrote: »

Nothing against Xbox. I have never played it or needed to because of Playstation loyalty and reliability. same reason I only drive Toyotas- Reliability. I think PS4 video is coming out on June tenth to show console. I am going to b pissed if PS4 does not play used discs. Peace

Same here,
Massive Playstation and PC gamer here. I reaaaaalllyyy wanted an Xbox 360, but the reliability problems prevented me from buying one plus a couple other factors(paying money to play online and the fact that the controllers don't have a built-in rechargeable battery). Other than that I really loved Halo 1 and 2 on PC and really wanted to play more of it, I'm also a huge motor sports fan so I wanted to play Forza and Project Gotham Racing aswell.

Hope the Xbox One won't have any hardware issues. Really digging the new Kinect, HDMI in feature, the controller and the box .
Playstation 4 looks nice aswell though. Will observe first for any issues and if the coast is clear I will take the jump for both consoles xD

kuntasensei

http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/24/4362680/xbox-one-games-will-require-regular-authentication-checks-used-games

Crecente is normally pretty good about not posting stuff without some confirmation, and I'm pretty fine with it if this is true. This makes way more sense to me than some of the supposition going on.

nme medic

I really like how this looks.

nme medic

I know Sony did it with the PS3 but I am glad MS went with a slot load this time. I can't stand disk trays

polrbehr

Too funny!! ^^^

I don't see it lasting very long, not with all the F-bombs... LOL

What's an Xbox?