The ugly and dangerous truth

F1nut

Ted Nugent penned this response to the Sandy Hook shooting in the Washington Times and hit the nail squarely on the head!!!

The ugly and dangerous truth is that we live in an embarrassing, politically correct culture that exalts and rejoices in the bizarre; aggressively promotes an ?anything goes? value system; and vilifies, condemns and mocks traditional societal values and customs at every opportunity.

We?ve embraced a culture of contempt that attacks the very institutions that make for a healthy and strong society, and then we?re shocked when it spirals out of control. The only thing I?m shocked about is that anybody is shocked.

jeremymarcinko

goofyGAguy wrote: »

Never heard of him.

He was/is a archery icon

Systems

He was/is a archery icon

Yep, the man hunted Elephant, Cape Buffalo, Rhino, Grizzly, Brown bear ect, ect, with a stick and a string.

Ted wrote a song about him.

Prolly listen to it on Youtube, check it out (Ted Nugent Fred Bear).

BlueFox

pepster wrote: »

Yep, the man hunted Elephant, Cape Buffalo, Rhino, Grizzly, Brown bear ect, ect, with a stick and a string.

Exactly. That is hunting. Wusses use guns for hunting. I will give The Nuge credit for his bow hunting skill.

Jetmaker737

Let's not forget your hero Ted crapped his own pants to dodge the draft.

wz2p7j

Why is it when some gun toting 2nd amendment loon rails against everything protected by the 1st amendment people applaud? Just askin.....

Chris

oldmodman

Ha!

Real cavemen use a club!

But all this talk about violence in society will soon be self correcting.

Just as soon as the rest of states legalize Ganja.

Ted at his best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlwLmyaa454

And of course. "Don't Bogart That Joint" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvGJvzwKqg0

Thorton

You can love him or hate him. He rocks. Thanks F1.

DracoAmericanus

wz2p7j wrote: »

Why is it when some gun toting 2nd amendment loon rails against everything protected by the 1st amendment people applaud? Just askin.....

Chris

it's when some one says something that makes sense then people applaud(or something like that). it has no bearing if you own a firearm or not, sure Ted is a loon but most people that own guns are not like that, people seem to forget that.

kevhed72

His music sucks big-time....nothing like politicizing children being murdered....Bravo Ted....you rock!!!

steveinaz

No matter what your opinion of Nugent may be, his observations are absolutely accurate. Sometimes I feel like I'm on an alien planet with the attitudes in this country. Stupid is the new smart, backwards the new forwards, lazy the new proud.

Degraded values to justify everyones actions, lack of discipline and instilling of pride and integrity in our children, the me, me, me society. We're going to see alot more "Sandy Hook" tragedies, and it won't matter a bit whether an AR15 or fertilizer is available--people will die. Question is, is this false sense of security worth freedoms lost?

For me, no way. I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees. No government will decide for me how I will defend myself and my family; I'll make that decision, it's my God given right.

tonyb

Even the most crazy sometimes have a better grasp on certain things than most do. Agreed, Ted hit the puppy out of the park. But emotions will rule the day as it has in our society for along time anyway. Then whatever comes about, the supreme court should strike it down.....should, but theres always that possibility isn't there ? They let me down on the last major ruleing so my faith is little shaken in them today. Anyway, Kudos to Ted, maybe we can change the conversation to actually dealing with the real problem at hand.

goofyGAguy

kevhed72 wrote: »

His music sucks big-time....nothing like politicizing children being murdered....Bravo Ted....you rock!!!

This is rich. It's the Left that can never seem to wait until the bodies are cold to start screaming for guns to be taken away from law-abiding citizens.

heiney9

kevhed72 wrote: »

His music sucks big-time....nothing like politicizing children being murdered....Bravo Ted....you rock!!!

Where did he mention specifically about children being murdered? It was a general comment/opinion about our current state of affairs. Certainly the comment was prompted by recent events, but Ted has been unwavering in his commentary over the years. So I don't view it as politicizing children being murdered.

H9

brgman

heiney9 wrote: »

Where did he mention specifically about children being murdered? It was a general comment/opinion about our current state of affairs. Certainly the comment was prompted by recent events, but Ted has been unwavering in his commentary over the years. So I don't view it as politicizing children being murdered.

H9

Since when does the left let facts get in the way.

deronb1

All he ever does is state the obvious. Although well said, it is depressing all the same. He never offers a positive spin to help promote the safety of our country. I am sure he considers himself a patriot, but 236 years ago, he would have been fighting right along the Redcoats, to help squall those "leftist" colonists.

cnh

Looks like everyone here is venting a little. Ted Nugent as a fountain of "wisdom"? OK. It's been a tough cycle for many CP-ers, I understand.

cnh

goofyGAguy

Wisdom can emanate from very unlikely places. It doesn't just come from tenured intellectuals such as yourself.

cnh

goofyGAguy wrote: »

Wisdom can emanate from very unlikely places. It doesn't just come from tenured intellectuals such as yourself.

No one ever said that goofy! Don't be so "defensive". Christ had no degrees, a carpenter by trade. Would you like to compare Ted with him? No further discussion from me is necessary here. Merry X-mas to all!

cnh

goofyGAguy

I don't think I would compare *anyone* to Christ.

Jetmaker737

LOL... hyperbolic rant = wisdom. Ted Nugent the Wise! Funny stuff right there.

F1nut

I'm going to post this again as there are some here that didn't get it the first time.

The ugly and dangerous truth is that we live in an embarrassing, politically correct culture that exalts and rejoices in the bizarre; aggressively promotes an "anything goes" value system; and vilifies, condemns and mocks traditional societal values and customs at every opportunity.

We've embraced a culture of contempt that attacks the very institutions that make for a healthy and strong society, and then we're shocked when it spirals out of control. The only thing I'm shocked about is that anybody is shocked.

falconcry72

If I thought I knew the answers to the world's problems, I'd be out trying to fix them, not bitching about them on an audio forum.

Some of you are so damn sure of your views on issues that are obviously too complicated for any person to understand. It's hilarious. Ask a truly brilliant person how to fix complex problems like the economy, violence, etc, and they will use the phrase "I don't know" A LOT, because they are aware of their own ignorance; ask an idiot about these problems, and he'll be 100% convinced that he, and his party's news anchors, have the right answers. Precious. Where do dumb people learn to be so arrogant abut their opinions? It must be a comfortable feeling to believe that you understand the world well-enough to have the answers, but damnit man! Where is the humility?

Can no one accept the fact that NO ONE has the answers? Are we so afraid of our own ignorance that we make ourselves more ignorant by hiding under our pride, closing off out minds, and believing that we're right? It's OK that we're ignorant! It's OK that we don't have the answers! We're not supposed to and we never will! If we could embrace our inherent ignorance, we would feel less "right", so others would be less "wrong", we could unite as a country, and we could tackle these problems TOGETHER instead of from different sides of a fence that we created.

It is an easy thought to think that you're right, and it is an even easier thought to think that someone else is wrong. This country needs to stop thinking easy thoughts and start thinking hard thoughts: we don't have the answers, we won't have the answers; let's brave this frightening new world together, as one, for the good of all mankind.

bmbguy

"politically correct culture that exalts and rejoices in the bizarre; ... vilifies, condemns and mocks traditional societal values and customs at every opportunity. "

A few years ago, did anyone ever imagine that kids wouldn't be allowed to drink whole milk or eat peanut butter at school? Some things have gone just a bit too far... I'll say this -- this world is a heckuva lot different than the one I grew up in.

goofyGAguy

WWE smackdown...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMso12zeYDQ

tonyb

Nobody is professing to have all the answers, but you have to start taking a different approach to school safety if you want to limit these things from happening, without stomping on peoples rights. I believe that state just voted to cut funds too from their mental health programs. While down Washington way, they cut programs specifically for school safety. I see nothing wrong with having a plain clothed cop with a conceiled weapon at every school. We have them on most every plane these days. Or take a cop off of writting stupid traffic tickets and place them infront of a school. May not stop them all, but it would sure limit the casualties. It's not a matter of cost, it's a matter of appropriating the personel you already have to where they are needed the most. Let a cop sit at the school instead of waiting around the corner for hours on end to see if he can catch someone not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. Make sense ? To me it does, to other towns however, they view that as lost income from the tickets that one cop could be writting. Whats more important i ask ? Both cops and schools are paid for with taxpayer coin, put them where they are needed the most is all I'm saying.

Systems

I said I was not going to comment on the political aspect, I have changed my mind!


I gotta say, Wayne LaPierre did not help matters with his ignorant speech.
Pathetic to say the least.

What most people do not consider, this violence goes on in EVERY country and always has!
If anything it has gotten better in modern times.
History will show MUCH more violence.

Pathetic in the sense that the US is not very far behind even the most "controlled" societies on the planet.

Personally, I will not give up my rights, for someone else's actions.

Tragic instances for sure, sympathy hits me deeper than you can imagine.

That said, my family has paid the price of freedom, many, many times in the past, through multiple wars..

Personally, I consider my last name paid in full!

Nuff said!

Strong Bad

F1nut wrote: »

I'm going to post this again as there are some here that didn't get it the first time.

Right on Jesse! Funny how some like to just throw it out because it was stated by Ted Nugent. Forget the source, just read it.

I happen to agree 100% with what he said. I see it all around me every single day.

FTGV

While young Teddy is correct I think Huckabees commentary is even more on point.Since it likely violates the PC rules I won't bother to provide the youtube link.

codyc1ark

:rolleyes:

Sorry guys, but this event has sparked a turning point. Like it or not there will be more regulation. There is no reason that someone needs to own an AR, 50 cal, armor piercing or any high cap firearm. None. There will be more background checks and regulations, all firearms are is a luxury item and should be treated as such. I find it so amusing that people cling on to a 200+ year old document like its the bible, because one amendment was made for times when there was a legit threat of an outside invader. I don't think our founding fathers met for the gen pop to own WMDs. Times are changing, get ready.

Oh, and just for the record, I am a proud owner of firearms.

tonyb

I just find it funny that some will dismiss Teds comments because of who he is, yet take to heart comments from the likes of ED Shultz, Van Jones, Bill Ayers, Nancy Pelosi, Warren Buffet, most any celebrity who shoots their mouth off, Al Sharpton, Jackson, and a cast of others who seem lockstep in their comments like it was written for them.

Eh, regardless, alittle common sense goes along way in these things, you can't let emotion trump the right things to do.