RTi 9 and emotiva XPA amps

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  • monepolk
    monepolk Posts: 1,143
    edited December 2012
    John is a Texan go BIG or go home :biggrin:
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  • monepolk
    monepolk Posts: 1,143
    edited December 2012
    NICE system, by the way!
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  • John777
    John777 Posts: 69
    edited December 2012
    some of you sound very confused. Spin it the way you want it.. The difference is there in configuration and equipment. Stop downplaying and grow up. I came here to see what was better out there and there is nothing. Same crap everyone has been discussing for decades.
    Room surrounded by Rtia9's.
    2 Xpa-2's firing the front
    Xpa-5 firing the center Rtia6 and rear
    2 MFW-15's firing on all cylinders
    Onkyo NR3007 playing my favorite song
    And a smile on my face.
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  • John777
    John777 Posts: 69
    edited December 2012
    :smile: I like it and my neighbors dont. So anything not good for them is good for me.
    Room surrounded by Rtia9's.
    2 Xpa-2's firing the front
    Xpa-5 firing the center Rtia6 and rear
    2 MFW-15's firing on all cylinders
    Onkyo NR3007 playing my favorite song
    And a smile on my face.
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  • John777
    John777 Posts: 69
    edited December 2012
    And thats right. I dont know how you daisy link your one parasound but we texans like it full blown. cheaper the better.
    Room surrounded by Rtia9's.
    2 Xpa-2's firing the front
    Xpa-5 firing the center Rtia6 and rear
    2 MFW-15's firing on all cylinders
    Onkyo NR3007 playing my favorite song
    And a smile on my face.
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited December 2012
    Wooow..John..slow down. I don't think anybody is confused..only about why you need to bi- amp the 9's...

    Pretty much, i don't think most anybody on here would go along with that recommendation....It's just not needed.



    You said you wanted to free up space...so we tried to help. The simple answer as stated would just be to get rid of the extra amp, and NOT bi-amp the front 9's.



    IF you want to keep the 9's bi-amped, and get a better power amp..AND free up space. Then your going to have to PONY UP.



    You would need an Adcom GFA-7707 power amp. 7 channels at 200 watts each, which would run you 3K.

    If you really want to tick off your neighbors you could go for the GFA-7807 which would give you 300 watts per on 7 channels. Which again would cost you 3.6K
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited December 2012
    John nobody is spinning anything, nore do i think there confused. Not sure were you got the daisy chain thing from..but anyway. Of course you can get better amps..you just have to pay for them...LOL



    The answer to your problem may be very simple, and something i did not think of before....BUT....I'M not an HT guy...so somebody would have say this can be done.



    You have a big fat Onkyo amp sitting there doing nothing. You want to keep your front 9's Bi-amped. Fine..again, get rid of the other power amp.....freeing up space. Bi-amp the top of the 9's off the Onkyo...it's 140watts per sitting there doing nothing.

    Far more power then the top of the 9's would ever need.



    I'm not sure this will work...I'm NOT an HT guy...so somebody else would have to tell you that, this can work or not.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,780
    edited December 2012
    John777 wrote: »
    some of you sound very confused. Spin it the way you want it.. The difference is there in configuration and equipment. Stop downplaying and grow up. I came here to see what was better out there and there is nothing. Same crap everyone has been discussing for decades.

    I thought you came here to sell some RTI's and an emo amp. With 49 posts in less than three days, you are well on your way to being able to put up that for sale post.

    GLWTS.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?139825-Polk-RTi-9-warranty&p=1849981&viewfull=1#post1849981
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  • John777
    John777 Posts: 69
    edited December 2012
    Sure one amp will free up space. By the way did you see the size of that gfa7807. But im on a different issue now than of downsizing. Its just not feasible with nothing really new out there.

    We were on the subject yall call biamping. using 2 channels per speaker. And I can hear with the ear the difference between running off the nr3007. and running of (1) 2 channel xpa-2 . And that is were we were in the last post. "why not just use the receiver for an amp." and "why run that configuration". And my answer would be:

    Now I didnt waste my time I felt when made my equipment purchase. I admit I didnt come to polk members to find more answers therefore I didnt buy the top of the line. but was an item fairly new on the market. And I personally received advice from the CEO of this company emotiva. In which he drew out for me the proper configuration. This man has made quit a few amps and your telling me he lied to get me to buy a extra amp. Now thats crazy. That would be a prime example of a company that is failing. But I dont see that being the case here. So just really erks me to hear that coming from a member that says they are here to help.

    I was asked the question, 'Why you running that configuration"; If it was so wrong why not, "here is the proper way to configure." And im suppose to believe that over a man that is supposedly a liar. WOW
    Room surrounded by Rtia9's.
    2 Xpa-2's firing the front
    Xpa-5 firing the center Rtia6 and rear
    2 MFW-15's firing on all cylinders
    Onkyo NR3007 playing my favorite song
    And a smile on my face.
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  • John777
    John777 Posts: 69
    edited December 2012
    who knows. Could be.
    Room surrounded by Rtia9's.
    2 Xpa-2's firing the front
    Xpa-5 firing the center Rtia6 and rear
    2 MFW-15's firing on all cylinders
    Onkyo NR3007 playing my favorite song
    And a smile on my face.
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  • John777
    John777 Posts: 69
    edited December 2012
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    I thought you came here to sell some RTI's and an emo amp. With 49 posts in less than three days, you are well on your way to being able to put up that for sale post.

    GLWTS.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?139825-Polk-RTi-9-warranty&p=1849981&viewfull=1#post1849981

    And what are you up too? 4249 post in 7 years.
    Room surrounded by Rtia9's.
    2 Xpa-2's firing the front
    Xpa-5 firing the center Rtia6 and rear
    2 MFW-15's firing on all cylinders
    Onkyo NR3007 playing my favorite song
    And a smile on my face.
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited December 2012
    John..man calm down...I NEVER said the guy was a liar. To me, and probably alot of other people on here...to bi-amp 9's is not really useful..your just not gaining that much from it...or at least what you can hear. Thats all. To me at least it would seem a waste of money...thats all. Plus something you really don't need. If you like the way it sounds...then fine. Stay with the confige you have now.
    The other suggestions were just that..you said you wanted to free up space...nothing more.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,447
    edited December 2012
    Has anyone noticed just how stressed out emoette's are around the holidays? I guess "an Andy Williams Christmas" just doesnt sound as good on an emo...
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  • John777
    John777 Posts: 69
    edited December 2012
    naturallight wrote: »
    John..man calm down...I NEVER said the guy was a liar. To me, and probably alot of other people on here...to bi-amp 9's is not really useful..your just not gaining that much from it...or at least what you can hear. Thats all. To me at least it would seem a waste of money...thats all. Plus something you really don't need. If you like the way it sounds...then fine. Stay with the confige you have now.
    The other suggestions were just that..you said you wanted to free up space...nothing more.

    Everythings ok Im calm. I spoke with Polk when I purchased the speakers and this dan laufman (emotiva ceo) and the polk sales seemed to agree on proper configuration. I didnt have just one party tell me this is it. I sought suggestions from all parties and they seemed to say the same thing.
    Room surrounded by Rtia9's.
    2 Xpa-2's firing the front
    Xpa-5 firing the center Rtia6 and rear
    2 MFW-15's firing on all cylinders
    Onkyo NR3007 playing my favorite song
    And a smile on my face.
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  • John777
    John777 Posts: 69
    edited December 2012
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Has anyone noticed just how stressed out emoette's are around the holidays? I guess "an Andy Williams Christmas" just doesnt sound as good on an emo...

    Im not stressed. A simple question turned into confusion. Im not an enthusiast I guess. Proper configuration turned into a rats nest of lengthy terms I dont understand.
    Room surrounded by Rtia9's.
    2 Xpa-2's firing the front
    Xpa-5 firing the center Rtia6 and rear
    2 MFW-15's firing on all cylinders
    Onkyo NR3007 playing my favorite song
    And a smile on my face.
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited December 2012
    Ok John....if thats the case, my suggestion on useing the Onkyo to power the tops of the 9's may fly and you could get rid of one of the amps. Again i'm not sure that will work, so somebody would have to chime in with more know how on that.
    Man you asked the question..were just trying to give you the best answers we can...thats all.
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  • John777
    John777 Posts: 69
    edited December 2012
    From my understanding on the onkyo. each channel is on 85 or 90 watts. Havent quit found that yet though. I remeber speaking with onkyo about this and if correct stated watts per channel and the actual are different . But this was 2 years ago.
    Room surrounded by Rtia9's.
    2 Xpa-2's firing the front
    Xpa-5 firing the center Rtia6 and rear
    2 MFW-15's firing on all cylinders
    Onkyo NR3007 playing my favorite song
    And a smile on my face.
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited December 2012
    John..let me tell first off nobody here is trying to give you wrong advice, in anyway shape or form. We only try to help.

    I have been a musician for 40 years, i've had , i don't know how many stereo systems....I know good sound.



    Now you did the right thing..you went to the Emo people and to Polk. Now Polk pretty much puts a bi-amp selection on most of there high end speakers..as do most speaker manufactures. Now Polk is not going to tell you NOT to do this..why should they.

    But the bottom line fact of bi-amping 9's in a HT set up like yours...pretty much a waste of money. Bi- amping 9's strait up for 2 channel is a waste of money. If you were dealing with real high dollar stuff thats hard to drive..yes the bi-amping is a good thing. Pretty much bi-amping 9's...is pretty much a waste of money. Now Polk is not going to tell you that nore for sure the EMO guy..but pretty much thats the bottom line. There not lying to you...it's just something you don't need and really would hear no difference in.



    My strait up recommendation stands....dump the other amp. Put the front 9's back to strait up....meaning put the connections back ,,no bi-amp thing. Then get rid of the other amp.

    Try it...you may like it...if you don't...go back to your original setup.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited December 2012
    Oh for crying out loud, if the guy is happy with his system then just drop it and let him be.

    John enjoy your system, I personally don't believe in overkill, if you have the money, space, and outlets to run the system that you have and you enjoy it, then that is all that matters. If you want to try some of these suggestions, go right ahead.

    This entire hobby is subjective and there is NO one way, right way or wrong way to enjoy this hobby despite what some so called "audiophiles may suggest. As far as I'm concerned there is no such thing as too much power unless you get carried away with the volume knob. At least you were smart enough to know that all those towers shouldn't be driven by a receiver alone. They are getting plenty of power to operate to their full potential which is how it should be.

    Listen to your own two ears and figure out what you like.
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  • John777
    John777 Posts: 69
    edited December 2012
    I started off with the receiver and rtia9's. As i was tweaking I kept bugging the shiat out of the techs over there. And finally they said, sir thats about all we can do with that setup. If you want more you need amps. Not really knowing nothing and after 10k here is where I am. How I got stuck with emotiva beats the hell out of me.But I started with the xpa-5. and went from there. And hearing the difference as I went. I admit the I cannot tell the difference with the second xpa-2 but i was told that is what i needed. and verified that with people like yourself. just not here on the polk forums.

    However the adcom gfa 7707 was the first amp recommended to me by those same people. But i was more price contious then. Can you believe they had this amp as a closeout at KMART for 2500. bucks. i missed it out by the last one. So wound up searching out emotiva.
    Room surrounded by Rtia9's.
    2 Xpa-2's firing the front
    Xpa-5 firing the center Rtia6 and rear
    2 MFW-15's firing on all cylinders
    Onkyo NR3007 playing my favorite song
    And a smile on my face.
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited December 2012
    John...dude..your really over thinking this too far...if you really like what you have now...man leave it alone. If you want to clear up space....do what i said..kick the other amp out...you will probably hear no difference at all.
    Thats all i can say man..give it a shot.....
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  • John777
    John777 Posts: 69
    edited December 2012
    thanks
    Room surrounded by Rtia9's.
    2 Xpa-2's firing the front
    Xpa-5 firing the center Rtia6 and rear
    2 MFW-15's firing on all cylinders
    Onkyo NR3007 playing my favorite song
    And a smile on my face.
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  • John777
    John777 Posts: 69
    edited December 2012
    so that means im done. theres no hidden tweaker anywhere.
    Room surrounded by Rtia9's.
    2 Xpa-2's firing the front
    Xpa-5 firing the center Rtia6 and rear
    2 MFW-15's firing on all cylinders
    Onkyo NR3007 playing my favorite song
    And a smile on my face.
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited December 2012
    John...LMAO ....what do you want?? I mean you have pretty much the best setup for HT...you could spend money on cables and such...if you want to spend more money on power amps..yeah you can do that...but what's the point...and what are you looking to upgrade?????
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  • John777
    John777 Posts: 69
    edited December 2012
    So youve been in it 40 years which is a tremendous time to keep passion for what i describe as a hobby. Whats your vision in stereo setups. Where will we be in 20 or 30 years or even sooner. Give your prophecy on receivers amps and speakers.

    And thanks again.
    Room surrounded by Rtia9's.
    2 Xpa-2's firing the front
    Xpa-5 firing the center Rtia6 and rear
    2 MFW-15's firing on all cylinders
    Onkyo NR3007 playing my favorite song
    And a smile on my face.
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited December 2012
    Yeah John...OK....your pretty much much an EMO nut case..and pretty much have a nice day.......your comments are just stupid.....
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited December 2012
    The thing that thick's me off....we try to help you...and your a complete ****.......
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  • John777
    John777 Posts: 69
    edited December 2012
    i did nothing wrong. but ask a question.
    Room surrounded by Rtia9's.
    2 Xpa-2's firing the front
    Xpa-5 firing the center Rtia6 and rear
    2 MFW-15's firing on all cylinders
    Onkyo NR3007 playing my favorite song
    And a smile on my face.
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  • John777
    John777 Posts: 69
    edited December 2012
    Obviously a stupid and broke 40 + yr musician. Too many of them your one of them.
    Room surrounded by Rtia9's.
    2 Xpa-2's firing the front
    Xpa-5 firing the center Rtia6 and rear
    2 MFW-15's firing on all cylinders
    Onkyo NR3007 playing my favorite song
    And a smile on my face.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,780
    edited December 2012
    Up to 63...almost there...
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