Giving up analog...

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  • Tankman
    Tankman Posts: 419
    edited October 2012
    F1nut..My bad..It really P me off too see something like that about h9 on here.H9 has help out a Lot of people in here.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,561
    edited October 2012
    I get it Tankman, next time just hit the report button and let Ken or Tony take care of it.
    ...and he's not easily impressed!

    ....and I'm not!
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,603
    edited October 2012
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    My good Christian sister in-law fixed that
    for me. She destroyed a lot of my favorite stuff one day when she was baby sitting.

    Damn that, she'd seen the cross first hand!
    --Gary--
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  • hochpt21
    hochpt21 Posts: 5,423
    edited October 2012
    Wow...do I even need to say uncalled for.

    If anything Scomp and H9 are some of the best contributors. Have done nothing but help me. And if you can't have a little thick skin on a forum...you probably don't belong.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited October 2012
    All because he was told his couple hundred dollar TT is not quite 'godlike'. Some people get spun up over the stupidest things. I guess that is why they are known as "The Stupid People."
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,761
    edited October 2012
    Sad thing for me is that it appears he's from WA. Hopefully that's DC, not state...
  • newrival
    newrival Posts: 2,017
    edited October 2012
    Although I find h9 and SComp off-putting at times - as I am sure some have found me the same - I agree, that dude is out of line.

    No need to call names around here in retaliation though. I think the best thing is to just carry on like it never happened, considering the mods will make it so.


    SO, let's get back to talking about how much better digital is than analog in every way! :lol::cheesygrin:
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  • gce
    gce Posts: 2,158
    edited October 2012
    Geeez, some people just shouldn't drink and type at the same time! :rolleyes:
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited October 2012
    Since analog suffers from vinyl deteriorating each time it is played, has there been any research into using a harder, more durable material for a record? Since the stylus tip is a diamond the record material shouldn't damage it. This would eliminate, or at least greatly reduce, one of the biggest drawbacks to vinyl. Treating records like babies is a pain.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,418
    edited October 2012
    This thing solves all the problems...


    http://www.elpj.com/

    OK, well not ALL, but it sure looks like a cool idea.:loneranger:
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited October 2012
    I've heard about that before. Supposed to be excellent.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited October 2012
    That is pretty cool. The whole idea is to accurately record the music and accurately play it back with no artifacts. I could care less how it is done so long as it works, does not cost an arm and a leg, and is not a PITA. Of course the plastic records are still the weak link in laser playback.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited October 2012
    Funny thing is that the high end model is over $11,000. And for an extra $3,850 you get "high resolution sound". Really? I would think they'd throw the good sound quality in for 11 grand!
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited October 2012
    BlueFox wrote: »
    That is pretty cool. The whole idea is to accurately record the music and accurately play it back with no artifacts. I could care less how it is done so long as it works, does not cost an arm and a leg, and is not a PITA. Of course the plastic records are still the weak link in laser playback.

    Except.... It costs an arm and a leg!
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,418
    edited October 2012
    There is on on Audiogon for "only" 4800.00:sad:

    If not for the house, I might have been tempted.
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,244
    edited October 2012
    IBTL..

    Scottinwa = banned DB







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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited October 2012
    Cool!
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • teekay0007
    teekay0007 Posts: 2,289
    edited October 2012
    BlueFox wrote: »
    That is pretty cool. The whole idea is to accurately record the music and accurately play it back with no artifacts. I could care less how it is done so long as it works, does not cost an arm and a leg, and is not a PITA. Of course the plastic records are still the weak link in laser playback.

    Yeah, if only there were an easy answer that fills ALL these requirements.......hmmmm......what could possibly do that? Uh....oh, yeah......a good CD player and a few good CDs!! :cool:
  • Thorton
    Thorton Posts: 1,324
    edited October 2012
    What did I miss. You can't go 1 day without missing action on this forum.
    By the way, if anyone wants to take my 80's Sony TT and 300 LP's off me for $10,000 just PM me.

    Everyone, grab a beer, vinyl, CD or digital controller and relax. It's Friday. Rick88 keep up the good posts.
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  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,375
    edited October 2012
    I also packed that TT away to save it from little hands. It is finally getting to the point where I can think about setting it up again, but no place for it right now. I do pull out some cassettes once in a while. The Denon deck still does a great job.
    Stan
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  • newrival
    newrival Posts: 2,017
    edited October 2012
    This thing solves all the problems...


    http://www.elpj.com/

    OK, well not ALL, but it sure looks like a cool idea.:loneranger:

    And they're only 10 grand!!! Oh, I'm sorry, you wanted the High-resolution sound quality? I meant $15 thousand.
    That has to be the funniest option I've seen on a piece of equipment.

    http://www.elpj.com/build/order.php
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,418
    edited October 2012
    Agreed NR... I won't be ordering mine any time soon.:lol:
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  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,375
    edited October 2012
    Wow, how many Craigs List TTs can the kids destroy for that price?
    Stan

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    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
  • brianle
    brianle Posts: 572
    edited October 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    There are plenty out there, just keep having those encounters :lol:

    H9

    Just bought a 2nd hand Plinius 9100 int amp. I'm hoping it would have similar sound quality of my Unison S6 :rolleyes:
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,965
    edited October 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I'm hoping out of the goodness of his heart he will build me one. :lol: I'll pay for it, but I don't have the knowledge or better yet the patience he has. I have heard it in the beginning stages, but not since he's completely upped the ante.

    Can't wait to hear it soon
    H9

    Yeah, me too. Can't wait for a time and date he sets up for a listen for us under achievers. As far as building you one Brock.....I gotcha at a round of rock/paper/scissors bro. :cheesygrin:
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,499
    edited October 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I'm hoping out of the goodness of his heart he will build me one. :lol: I'll pay for it, but I don't have the knowledge or better yet the patience he has. I have heard it in the beginning stages, but not since he's completely upped the ante.

    Can't wait to hear it soon

    H9
    tonyb wrote: »
    Yeah, me too. Can't wait for a time and date he sets up for a listen for us under achievers. As far as building you one Brock.....I gotcha at a round of rock/paper/scissors bro. :cheesygrin:


    Thanks for the kind words and votes of confidence! That date could be sooner than later. I am doing more listening now than problem solving. The Arduino coding is pretty much done (except for the remote and IR receiver I just ordered). :cheesygrin:

    Brock, much depends on how many and what inputs you want. I wanted I2S, DSD and multiple SPDIF inputs. Many of us are waiting for Twisted Pear to release their long awaited hi-res USB module. It should have options to export via SPDIF or I2S.

    I was going to implement a Musiland USB offering and mod it to export I2S, but am very happy with the Touch/SPDIF out via coax. (The Touch can even be modded to export I2S which separates the clock from data). Some report better SQ with I2S versus SPDIF, even though the ESS Sabre32 chip implements a different method of decoding SPDIF that does not require an explicit measure of the clock frequency.
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  • PolkClyde
    PolkClyde Posts: 662
    edited October 2012
    F1nut wrote: »
    I've heard a lot of vinyl over the years on everything from inexpensive to very expensive set ups. For sure, some records were not cleaned well, while others were bathed in Yak piss blessed by a monk and cleaned to death.....not once have I ever heard a record that didn't have tick, pop or click while playing, not once!

    Let's not even talk about how the grooves get worn a little more every time the needle gets dragged thru them.



    I'd say that you've never had/heard the right CD/SACD player and convenience has squat to do with it.



    Flat out BS. There's plently of really piss poor masterings on vinyl.


    PREACE MY BROTHER, PREACH. That's F1NUT.. he told the truth there.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,965
    edited October 2012
    PolkClyde wrote: »
    That's F1NUT.. he told the truth there.

    In part.....Yak piss ? No way man, everyone knows the piss from a Virgin cleans ways better than a Yaks.
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  • CSM41
    CSM41 Posts: 55
    edited October 2012
    brianle wrote: »
    Just bought a 2nd hand Plinius 9100 int amp. I'm hoping it would have similar sound quality of my Unison S6 :rolleyes:

    I have one of these. That's a very nice amp.
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  • brianle
    brianle Posts: 572
    edited October 2012
    CSM41 wrote: »
    I have one of these. That's a very nice amp.

    Thanks. I will find out soon whether it's a good match for my system.